The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 General Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 22

[Green Goblin]

Jake would have been a fantastic Peter Parker, I wish that they had cast him as Peter Parker!

 

[JOE]

He showed a fake ASM2 trailer, and he said it was the SDCC footage.

I got so excited when I saaw SHH post something on Twitter about it... Damn.

 

[Green Goblin]

There was a fake trailer show me please!

 

[JOE]

It's on the main SHH page.

 

[JOE]

Can someone copy and paste the AintItCoolNews interview with Jamie Foxx? Whenever I go to read it, the article disappears on me for some reason. Can someone paste it in here.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Electro: "You said we were gonna be best friends forever!!!"
Spidey: ...

 

[GuestStar2004]

Can someone copy and paste the AintItCoolNews interview with Jamie Foxx? Whenever I go to read it, the article disappears on me for some reason. Can someone paste it in here.

Spoiler

Quint: I gotta start off by saying I'm a big fan. I grew up with In Living Color.

Jamie Foxx: Oh, man. Fantastic!

Quint: I have very fond memories of that show. Looking back it's very interesting to me to see how the cast members jumped off of that show. Jim Carrey went immediately into comedy features and it's interesting to me that you didn't have the same rise to stardom, you found a different path.

Jamie Foxx: To be honest with you, we failed. We failed when we first started doing our comedies. Unfortunately we got movies that were like other people. Like, there was an Eddie Murphy knockoff or a Martin Lawrence knock-off, so we never really caught wind with a big comedy, which I believe actually saved me because what I notice now with 25 years of being in this is when you have these huge movies that define you in that world it's hard to bend back and do regular stuff.

To be able to do Any Given Sunday, to be able to do Ali... for people who never got a chance to see In Living Color they were viewing me for the first time in those movies. When I would travel internationally and do a joke, they'd be like “Hey, this guy's funny too!” I consider myself lucky and blessed to just be able to do decent work, decent work, decent work instead of success, failure, success, failure.

Quint: You're right, if you can establish yourself in a dramatic work it's easier to move into comedy than the other way around.

Jamie Foxx: Way easier, man. You look at these guys when they define themselves as the biggest comedian in the world eventually, just from time, things change and there's another comedian. I'm fortunate.

Quint: And now you're in a superhero movie! I love how out there the character looks. You're not playing it straight down the middle, you guys are going nuts.

Jamie Foxx: Here's the thing. When they talked about this, I said “Look, I know Electro.” If we go on Electro's history, he's born in Endicott, New York. His father's an accountant. He should have followed in his father's footsteps, but his father leaves. Right off the bat you set Max up as a person that's been hurt. The father's not there. His mom is sort of crazy protective. He even tried to get married. Now, that's not in our movie, but to see a person in their 40s still trying to catch fire... I know guys like that. They're still trying to figure out what their life is about. There are guys who I could pattern this character off of so even before he turns into Electro he can be compelling.

When we got together, Marc (Webb) and I, I said how about it's his birthday and nobody remembers it, including his mom? So, when he goes in and says, “Mom, it's a special day today... is there something you want to tell me?” She goes, “Yeah, like I tell you every day, you're a dummy. Anything else?” Immediately the crowd is going to go, “Awwww.”

I said if we can have him betrayed by three things: love, family and his job then we can have an opportunity to have an old school villain. “Everyone's turned on me so I'm gonna get mine.” That's why I jumped at the chance of this. It wasn't just about “alright, let's go be in a superhero film!” because if you don't know a lot about it you'll end up one-dimensional. We wanted to sit down and actually develop him.

Something that happened to me... I was in LA. I was young, up and coming... the In Living Color days, but I really wasn't famous then. These guys were messing with me and I asked this gangster dude to help me out with it. When I did I was indebted to him. Every club I'd go to, it'd be “Hey, you gonna get me in the club with you?” I'd say, “I can only get in one...” “I got nine.” So, I'd have to pay to get them in.

So that energy that he had, I took it to Electro. When Spider-Man says to me as Max, “Hey, we're friends, we're partners” he remembers that as Electro. “You don't remember me? You said me and you were going to do this together. I'm Electro now, we can do this...”

Quint: So for him, it's another betrayal.

Jamie Foxx: When he betrays me, I take the same sensibility of that gangster that was chasing me in LA and I want him to be the guy that is chasing Spider-Man. Every time I was on the set and someone would ask me what I was doing that day, I said, “I'm chillin'. I'm chasin' spiders. I'll hit you back.”

I wanted to up the ante with the heat on him because I think the way Andrew (Garfield) had now taken control of that role... I wanted him to be uncomfortable. Even when I'd see him out, I'd go “Yo, you know somebody's after you, right?” He'd go (in a soft and, I gotta say, slightly effeminate British accent) “What? What-what-what do you mean somebody's after me?” I said, “Yeah, you've got a formidable opponent, somebody that wants to take your shine. Somebody who wants to take that Spider-Man sign and melt it so it says 'Electro.'”

That's what's cool about it, that's what's cool about being in this movie. And my daughter who is crazy about Spider-Man, she always dresses up like Spider-Man, she's sitting on the set with her costume on... It was all just a big fun experience, but we were down to the business of making characters multi-dimensional.

Quint: Marc's casting has been superb so far, with the first film and now this one... I mean, he's got Paul Giamatti in the movie!

Jamie Foxx: Oh, man. That guy... I shook his hand and said, “Let me get some of that magic dust you got, man.” That's the other thing... Marc is very smart to have actors that are compelling because that way without the mask, without anything else, you're already ready for them to be brilliant. Everything Paul Giamatti was doing I was like, “This dude is so dope.”

Quint: Paul isn't afraid to swing for the fences, he isn't afraid to look ridiculous. That fearlessness is one of my favorite things about watching him work. That's one of things I like about what we've seen of the pre-Electro version of your character, with the crazy comb-over.

Jamie Foxx: My sister did that. My sister crafted that. She also did the Django look.

Quint: Slightly different.

Jamie Foxx: Slightly different, yeah. (laughs) I want the nerd version of Max to also be remembered. Like you said with Paul and all those guys, they're not afraid to get after it and really be who they're supposed to be.

Quint: A lot of actors aren't willing to go that far, to show themselves in such an unflattering light.

Jamie Foxx: You know what? Chris Rock said this. He said, “Foxx, you're not afraid to look ugly in a film.” I think if you're an actor, especially if you're a comedian, the minute you start to be aware of yourself you lose because people see it. They go, “Why do you have that makeup on? Why does your hair look so nice? Why you got the Louis Vuitton on right now?” So, as much as I can, man, I try to respect the art and allow the director to director to direct you. Marc challenged me. He wasn't just letting us come on the set, say dadda-da-da and walk off. “You're close, but you're not there yet. Who cares if you've got an Oscar right now, let's get the real thing.” That's what was dope about it.

Quint: Do you like being pushed that way?

Jamie Foxx: You have to, man.

Quint: From what I understand Tarantino was pretty strong with you on Django, too.

Jamie Foxx: You've gotta push me because if not I'll fall, all actors do, into what we think is fly. We can't see ourselves, so I appreciate the tough director. Michael Mann, Taylor Hackford, Antoine Fuqua, F. Gary Gray, Oliver Stone, Quentin...

Quint: I don't recognize any of these names...

Jamie Foxx: (Laughs) I remember Quentin... he pulled me aside and said, “Can I talk to you for a second? You have to play a SLAVE! You gotta stop this!” I said, “What do you mean?” He said, “You're coming in and you're already cool. They weren't cool like that back then. You'll get there. I'll get you there.” When a person tells you that and I look at my Range Rover and look at my Louis Vuitton backpack... I have to leave all of that at home. The best thing in the world for an actor to do is to forget he's famous. That's the best thing.

 

[Green Goblin]

It would be cool if Electro becomes a vampiric organism...

 

[JOE]

Spoiler

Quint: I gotta start off by saying I'm a big fan. I grew up with In Living Color.

Jamie Foxx: Oh, man. Fantastic!

Quint: I have very fond memories of that show. Looking back it's very interesting to me to see how the cast members jumped off of that show. Jim Carrey went immediately into comedy features and it's interesting to me that you didn't have the same rise to stardom, you found a different path.

Jamie Foxx: To be honest with you, we failed. We failed when we first started doing our comedies. Unfortunately we got movies that were like other people. Like, there was an Eddie Murphy knockoff or a Martin Lawrence knock-off, so we never really caught wind with a big comedy, which I believe actually saved me because what I notice now with 25 years of being in this is when you have these huge movies that define you in that world it's hard to bend back and do regular stuff.

To be able to do Any Given Sunday, to be able to do Ali... for people who never got a chance to see In Living Color they were viewing me for the first time in those movies. When I would travel internationally and do a joke, they'd be like “Hey, this guy's funny too!” I consider myself lucky and blessed to just be able to do decent work, decent work, decent work instead of success, failure, success, failure.

Quint: You're right, if you can establish yourself in a dramatic work it's easier to move into comedy than the other way around.

Jamie Foxx: Way easier, man. You look at these guys when they define themselves as the biggest comedian in the world eventually, just from time, things change and there's another comedian. I'm fortunate.

Quint: And now you're in a superhero movie! I love how out there the character looks. You're not playing it straight down the middle, you guys are going nuts.

Jamie Foxx: Here's the thing. When they talked about this, I said “Look, I know Electro.” If we go on Electro's history, he's born in Endicott, New York. His father's an accountant. He should have followed in his father's footsteps, but his father leaves. Right off the bat you set Max up as a person that's been hurt. The father's not there. His mom is sort of crazy protective. He even tried to get married. Now, that's not in our movie, but to see a person in their 40s still trying to catch fire... I know guys like that. They're still trying to figure out what their life is about. There are guys who I could pattern this character off of so even before he turns into Electro he can be compelling.

When we got together, Marc (Webb) and I, I said how about it's his birthday and nobody remembers it, including his mom? So, when he goes in and says, “Mom, it's a special day today... is there something you want to tell me?” She goes, “Yeah, like I tell you every day, you're a dummy. Anything else?” Immediately the crowd is going to go, “Awwww.”

I said if we can have him betrayed by three things: love, family and his job then we can have an opportunity to have an old school villain. “Everyone's turned on me so I'm gonna get mine.” That's why I jumped at the chance of this. It wasn't just about “alright, let's go be in a superhero film!” because if you don't know a lot about it you'll end up one-dimensional. We wanted to sit down and actually develop him.

Something that happened to me... I was in LA. I was young, up and coming... the In Living Color days, but I really wasn't famous then. These guys were messing with me and I asked this gangster dude to help me out with it. When I did I was indebted to him. Every club I'd go to, it'd be “Hey, you gonna get me in the club with you?” I'd say, “I can only get in one...” “I got nine.” So, I'd have to pay to get them in.

So that energy that he had, I took it to Electro. When Spider-Man says to me as Max, “Hey, we're friends, we're partners” he remembers that as Electro. “You don't remember me? You said me and you were going to do this together. I'm Electro now, we can do this...”

Quint: So for him, it's another betrayal.

Jamie Foxx: When he betrays me, I take the same sensibility of that gangster that was chasing me in LA and I want him to be the guy that is chasing Spider-Man. Every time I was on the set and someone would ask me what I was doing that day, I said, “I'm chillin'. I'm chasin' spiders. I'll hit you back.”

I wanted to up the ante with the heat on him because I think the way Andrew (Garfield) had now taken control of that role... I wanted him to be uncomfortable. Even when I'd see him out, I'd go “Yo, you know somebody's after you, right?” He'd go (in a soft and, I gotta say, slightly effeminate British accent) “What? What-what-what do you mean somebody's after me?” I said, “Yeah, you've got a formidable opponent, somebody that wants to take your shine. Somebody who wants to take that Spider-Man sign and melt it so it says 'Electro.'”

That's what's cool about it, that's what's cool about being in this movie. And my daughter who is crazy about Spider-Man, she always dresses up like Spider-Man, she's sitting on the set with her costume on... It was all just a big fun experience, but we were down to the business of making characters multi-dimensional.

Quint: Marc's casting has been superb so far, with the first film and now this one... I mean, he's got Paul Giamatti in the movie!

Jamie Foxx: Oh, man. That guy... I shook his hand and said, “Let me get some of that magic dust you got, man.” That's the other thing... Marc is very smart to have actors that are compelling because that way without the mask, without anything else, you're already ready for them to be brilliant. Everything Paul Giamatti was doing I was like, “This dude is so dope.”

Quint: Paul isn't afraid to swing for the fences, he isn't afraid to look ridiculous. That fearlessness is one of my favorite things about watching him work. That's one of things I like about what we've seen of the pre-Electro version of your character, with the crazy comb-over.

Jamie Foxx: My sister did that. My sister crafted that. She also did the Django look.

Quint: Slightly different.

Jamie Foxx: Slightly different, yeah. (laughs) I want the nerd version of Max to also be remembered. Like you said with Paul and all those guys, they're not afraid to get after it and really be who they're supposed to be.

Quint: A lot of actors aren't willing to go that far, to show themselves in such an unflattering light.

Jamie Foxx: You know what? Chris Rock said this. He said, “Foxx, you're not afraid to look ugly in a film.” I think if you're an actor, especially if you're a comedian, the minute you start to be aware of yourself you lose because people see it. They go, “Why do you have that makeup on? Why does your hair look so nice? Why you got the Louis Vuitton on right now?” So, as much as I can, man, I try to respect the art and allow the director to director to direct you. Marc challenged me. He wasn't just letting us come on the set, say dadda-da-da and walk off. “You're close, but you're not there yet. Who cares if you've got an Oscar right now, let's get the real thing.” That's what was dope about it.

Quint: Do you like being pushed that way?

Jamie Foxx: You have to, man.

Quint: From what I understand Tarantino was pretty strong with you on Django, too.

Jamie Foxx: You've gotta push me because if not I'll fall, all actors do, into what we think is fly. We can't see ourselves, so I appreciate the tough director. Michael Mann, Taylor Hackford, Antoine Fuqua, F. Gary Gray, Oliver Stone, Quentin...

Quint: I don't recognize any of these names...

Jamie Foxx: (Laughs) I remember Quentin... he pulled me aside and said, “Can I talk to you for a second? You have to play a SLAVE! You gotta stop this!” I said, “What do you mean?” He said, “You're coming in and you're already cool. They weren't cool like that back then. You'll get there. I'll get you there.” When a person tells you that and I look at my Range Rover and look at my Louis Vuitton backpack... I have to leave all of that at home. The best thing in the world for an actor to do is to forget he's famous. That's the best thing.

Muchos gracias.

 

[Spidey1107]

Yeah i know tasm 2 will be great but alot of these board members are thinking way into the future and shouldnt get thier hopes up imo im prepared for 3 to 4 films and after that if marc uses sinister six the next reboot is going to have a hard time in terms of villians and the suit!

But why keep rebooting the franchise. Just get someone else who looks almost exactly like Garfield and Woodley (or whoever will be MJ).

 

[SpideyFan866]

It would be cool if Electro becomes a vampiric organism...

What do you mean? Like he needs electricity to survive?

 

[Spidey1107]

Garfield seems pretty dedicated to the role. He even cried when he put the suit on in TASM 1. Look at how Daniel Radcliffe and Co were dedicated to the Harry Potter films. I think Garfield could do more than 4. And RDJ is doing Age of Ultron...I think they should keep going with the same actors.

 

[JOE]

He's going to be 35 by the time they do 4... I think 4 would be the most Garfield could do...

 

[Spidey1107]

And how old is RDJ???

 

[Picard Sisko]

Yeah, I think 4 is the maximum amount of films, unless they move the story forward and skip ahead a number of years like with the J. Michael Strazynski comic books (Peter is older and is a teacher at school)>

 

[Picard Sisko]

And how old is RDJ???

RDJ isn't playing a character who is 17-18 years old.

 

[SpideyFan866]

And how old is RDJ???

48.


He'll be 50 by time they Avengers: Age of Ultron releases, and 53 when Avengers 3 releases.

 

[Spidey1107]

But by the 4th film Peter will probably be in his mid-late twenties. You never know what time these movies are set in. Isn't TASM 2 set in 2013. TASM 5 could be set in like 2021

 

[SpideyFan866]

RDJ isn't playing a character who is 17-18 years old.

Even still, he's getting up there.

And at his own admittance, he doesn't wanna play Tony Stark for much longer.

That's why he's only signed on for A2, and A3 now.

He plans on leaving once Phase 3 is complete.

 

[Spidey1107]

48.


He'll be 50 by time they Avengers: Age of Ultron releases, and 53 when Avengers 3 releases.

So then Andrew Garfield can be Spidey for as long as he wants to. Like I said earlier, he's very dedicated, and his character doesn't have to be 18 in every film.

 

[SpideyFan866]

But by the 4th film Peter will probably be in his mid-late twenties. You never know what time these movies are set in. Isn't TASM 2 set in 2013. TASM 5 could be set in like 2021

Yeah, PETER, will be in his mid twenties, but Andrew will be in his mid thirties.

So yeah, unless they do a time jump to make up for it and/or progress the character past college so the franchise can have a more timeless feel, Andrew will likely be leaving after 4.

 

[Spidey1107]

Yeah, PETER, will be in his mid twenties, but Andrew will be in his mid thirties.

So yeah, unless they do a time jump to make up for it and/or progress the character shortly past college so the series can have a more timeless feel, Andrew will likely be leaving after 4.

IMO, Andrew Garfield doesn't even look thirty...he can pull it off. He looks like he's in his early-mid twenties.

 

[Picard Sisko]

TASM3 and TASM4 will probably take place in college, but he should graduate by the 5th. Remember how SM2 took place 2 years after the first film? That was a smart move. I understand why they didn't do that for TASM2, but they should do that for one of the future films.

 

[SpideyFan866]

So then Andrew Garfield can be Spidey for as long as he wants to. Like I said earlier, he's very dedicated, and his character doesn't have to be 18 in every film.

Again, yes.

The character doesn't have to be a teenager and/or in college, and he honestly should be progressed past that.

But even still, a man in his mid thirties, or even forties, shouldn't be playing someone in their early to mid twenties.

And Andrew knows that.

 

[Spidey1107]

Again, yes.

The character doesn't have to be a teenager and/or in college, and he honestly should be progressed past that.

But even still, a man in his mid thirties, or even forties, shouldn't be playing someone in their early to mid twenties.

And Andrew knows that.

But if he looks like he can pull it off and if he is fantastic at playing Spidey which he is, he can continue! He doesn't have to worry about what people say. If he wants to be fifty and play a thirty year old, let him.