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[LEVITIKUZ]

Not likely considering:

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Peter ends up beating the snot out of Harry after he snaps Gwen's neck. Lol.

Think he means by them fighting each other. Like past Richard and Norman fought each other and there sons are fighting each other.

 

[JOE]

Think he means by them fighting each other. Like past Richard and Norman fought each other and there sons are fighting each other.

I know, I was referring to the end result lol.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Makes sense..

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Oh. lol.

 

[JOE]

Oh. lol.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

 

[Green Goblin]

I'm fine with Harry being some sort of Goblin first as it fits with the Norman dying arc but Harry killing Gwen would be awful.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

I'm fine with Harry being some sort of Goblin first as it fits with the Norman dying arc but Harry killing Gwen would be awful.

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Ha. I don't think you're gonna like that part of the movie then..

 

[Green Goblin]

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Ha. I don't think you're gonna like that part of the movie then..

What is the point of Gwen being killed by Harry? I thought his Goblin was to prepare us for the real deal.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

What is the point of Gwen being killed by Harry? I thought his Goblin was to prepare us for the real deal.

No one ever said that was his purpose. That's just fan speculation.

 

[Airnick]

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But what exactly will be wrong with Harry killing Gwen, is it because its not like the source material?

 

[mayo23]

Seeing as how CA: TWS is getting a lot of positive reactions at the moment, I'm curious as to why TeeKay thought ASM2 was better (at least in terms of the rough cuts he'd seen)? Or perhaps his opinion may change by the time both films are finally released.

 

[SM71]

Well who says TASM2 won't be getting positive reviews as well? They're not mutually exclusive events

 

[mayo23]

Well who says TASM2 won't be getting positive reviews as well? They're not mutually exclusive events

Not sure how that relates to what I was asking.

 

[SM71]

Not sure how that relates to what I was asking.

Sorry wasn't trying to start an argument at all with what I said. But your previous post made it sound like just because Cap2 was getting positive reviews, you found it puzzling that TeeKay liked ASM2 more, and that maybe somehow his opinion would change since Cap's currently being so well recieved. Once again not trying to be snarky but the last sentence of your post just kinda made it sound to me like you were saying Caps positive reviews meant that the cuts/edits each movie made between test screening and final product improved TWS and impaired ASM. Which personally didn't make too much sense to me

He still said he thought Cap2 was great, but that he thought ASM2 was a little better

 

[melvintwj]

[BLACKOUT]Making Norman kill Gwen after Harry's failure to do so would be a wrong move imo. After the whatever possible events that are about to happen in TASM2, if Gwen does make it alive then Peter should jolly well stay away from her. If she dies because they are still together then it's kinda like a "I told you so" to Pete. Besides that, having Gwen being in trouble in a fight again would be pretty repetitive *cough* damsel in distress *cough*[/BLACKOUT]

 

[mayo23]

Sorry wasn't trying to start an argument at all with what I said. But your previous post made it sound like just because Cap2 was getting positive reviews, you found it puzzling that TeeKay liked ASM2 more, and that maybe somehow his opinion would change. Which personally didn't make too much sense to me

He still said he thought Cap2 was great, but that he thought ASM2 was a little better

Well that's exactly what I was asking. Why, in his opinion, did he like ASM2 more. Cap2 seems to be getting a lot of 4/5 or 5/5 star reviews, at least from the fans, some even calling it near flawless...so ASM2 would have to be a damn near perfect, masterpiece CBM. Or maybe Teekay just prefers Spider-man more as a character.

Teekay had only seen rough cuts of each movie. It's possible his opinion may change but after viewing the final film since we don't know why he preferred one over the other to begin with.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

I actually like Levitkutz's theory here....

"As I said before. In the Ultimate Spider-Man game, Peter's parents died of a plane crash. Someone in the plane was wearing the Venom suit. Peter's mom briefly survived and described what attacked them in the ambulance.

Perhaps Peter's father created the Goblin formula, Norman uses it, Norman attacks them as the Goblin, Norman's the reason for the plane crash which is why he's been keeping an eye on Peter. So he doesn't find out the truth."

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If the plane crashes with Mary dead and cutting to modern-day, leaving it open-ended as far as if Richard Parker is dead or alive, he could easily use a vile of the Venom Project to survive. Unless, it's confirmed he uses a parachute.

However, it's confirmed that the attacker on the plane is not Norman but a hired assassin so while Norman is the reason for the plane crash, he doesn't attack them as Goblin.

But today it was revealed that Harry has some biological problems... if Norman used the OZ formula before his wife was pregnant with Harry then it could be like Ang Lee's "Hulk" where the sins of the father got passed down to the son ala the disease.

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

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But what exactly will be wrong with Harry killing Gwen, is it because its not like the source material?

Harry sacrificing himself to save his friends is a powerful moment in the last series. If new Harry deviates too far from the old, moviegoers could reject that interpretation of the character.

 

[SM71]

Well that's exactly what I was asking. Why, in his opinion, did he like ASM2 more. Cap2 seems to be getting a lot of 4/5 or 5/5 star reviews, at least from the fans, some even calling it near flawless...so ASM2 would have to be a damn near perfect, masterpiece CBM. Or maybe Teekay just prefers Spider-man more as a character.

Teekay had only seen rough cuts of each movie. It's possible his opinion may change but after viewing the final film since we don't know why he preferred one over the other to begin with.

Oh ok gotcha My bad

Yeah I'd love to hear more specifics from TK too but unfortunately I don't think he can really get into anything with his NDA

I will say however, that although it could always happen, I doubt Cap2 will all of a sudden be that much better in comparison than it was in TK's screenings for each. But who knows

I think it just means TASM2 is that good. Which is super exciting. And bear in mind, while I really value Teekays opinion, it's just one persons opinion. Many other people could have seen both test screenings and thought TWS was the better movie. So while it's exciting it's all subjective here

 

[SM71]

These plane crash theories and speculations are pretty interesting btw

 

[UltimateWebhead]

So, apparently I was correct about two pieces of info.

Spoiler

The opening shot of a clock is actually of Richard Parker's watch and Spidey defeats Electro at TS using a fire hose

 

[Spideyfan117]

And bear in mind, while I really value Teekays opinion, it's just one persons opinion. Many other people could have seen both test screenings and thought TWS was the better movie. So while it's exciting it's all subjective here

This. I absolutely trust TeeKay that he really liked what he saw for the most part. Doesn't mean other people will perceive it the same as him. And that's okay. I'm more interested (and this sounds selfish) in what I think about it than what anyone else thinks.