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[Em Dee]

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I wanna thank not only god, but also JESUS for the oppurtunity to be here at this very moment!!!!1

 

[Andrew Lucas]

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I wanna thank not only god, but also JESUS for the oppurtunity to be here at this very moment!!!!1

Don't make my cry... you are my boy..

 

[Tim_Riggins]

@Arrowhead: that's probably the best thing I've read on the subject, brilliant, this guy gets it.

I always loved Ultimate better than the early Amazing Spider-Man, more modern, more relatable for me, loved Bagley's art. TASM has always had that Ultimate feel and that's what I love most about it, I still love Spidey 1 & 2 but not on the same level, TASM & TASM2 are also way more emotional and raw.

Thinking about the movie, there were really some fantastic character scenes, the one btw Harry & Norman for example, for Harry & Peter's friendship, I never questioned it, like Tolmach said in an interview, it worked for me, these are some of my favorite scenes as well

Spoiler

Harry being kind of cold & distant and then dropping the facade and enjoying having his best friend back.

The movie going from scene to scene without any flow, one of those complaints that I (and others here) just don't understand, it flowed really well, everything tying together at the end, I feel it has a real nice pace to it, but hey, agree to disagree.

 

[dark_b]

My Review/Ramblings:

The actors do a fine job with lame material, particularly Emma Stone who just owns the screen everytime she is on it. Andrew Garfield is less obnoxious this time but I still wouldn't say that I like this version of Peter Parker very much. Jamie Foxx is a talented actor but his performance doesn't work and Electro/Max Dillon is a terrible 1D character. His origin is just as bad as Mr. Freeze's. When will people stop falling into vats of stuff that gives them Superpowers? I'm sick of that origin story. Dane Dehann is disappointing as Harry Osborn, although that's admittedly part way the script's fault. The plot is virtually non existent. Peter and Harry's friendship doesn't ring as true as it should because they just suddenly introduce Harry and tell us that he and Peter are best friends. The film just plods along from one scene to the next, it had no real flow at all. I wish Spider-Man would just shut up sometimes and save people and fight evil. The mystery about Peter's parents is a snoozefest, I don't care about that plot point. Garfield and Stone have chemistry and their scenes are well done, the "my boy" scene with Aunt May is amazing, the swinging is great and the visual effects mostly look very good but those things can't save the film. The movie is about a half hour too long because it's dull and plotless.

No I didn't hate it and no I didn't want to dislike it. I gave it a fair shot and it just didn't work for me.

I don't have a score right now but I haven't decided what I'm going to give it. It's not going to be a good score of course.

i agree. that was boring. plus i was angry because it felt like they are telling the same story like in the first movie. t:

the action scene on the plane? father looking at the mother and sad music

 

[SpideyK]

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I wanna thank not only god, but also JESUS for the oppurtunity to be here at this very moment!!!!1

Yolo

 

[SpideyK]

the action scene on the plane? father looking at the mother and sad music

Hey... I loved that part.

 

[Em Dee]

Hey... I loved that part.

Yeah so did I.

 

[Em Dee]

I also wanna thank space ghost. Couldn't do it without him.

 

[OriginalMiles]

I like that part too.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

i agree. that was boring. plus i was angry because it felt like they are telling the same story like in the first movie. t:

the action scene on the plane? father looking at the mother and sad music

That action scene on the plane was so dull.

 

[SpideyK]

Yeah so did I.

That action scene on the plane was so dull.

I thought it was pretty cool.

And when the plane crashes and everything and Richard's looking at Mary, and Zimmer's score.

Chills.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Yeah loved that opening scene.

 

[Visualiza]

Ultimate Spider-Man.

Good for Ultimate Spider-Man, but is this a more faithful adaptation to the Ultimate line, or 616? Can't have it both ways, as that doesn't make for a level playing field. The Ultimate line was in its infancy when Spider-Man '02 was in development.

And yes, I'm well aware that other franchises do it, but I'm not talking about what franchises do, I'm talking about the veracity and impartiality of people's words.

True, but [BLACKOUT]he's such a minor supporting character.[/BLACKOUT]

But nothing. Is it a faithful adaptation or not?

Changing certain background information is fine. Character is what matters.

Non-sequitur. I'll ask again - is it a faithful adaptation or not? If it isn't, then it isn't. Let's call a spade a spade here, that's all I'm saying.

Also, Oscorp Gwen was inspiration from The Spectacular Spider-Man.

The cartoon, or the actual comic line? If it's the former, then I'm pretty sure you know how I'll reply by now.

Why not? Makes sense.

In the context of the movie, I actually agree, however, it's not exactly faithful to the comics now, is it? My point with all of this, is that it's getting silly for fans of this franchise to try and say that this movie is such a faithful adaptation of any comic. In fact, it's just a lie at this point, but you know what? That's ok. Some of my favorites in the genre are objectively terrible adaptations, and there's no shame in that.

Seems like fans feel the need to immediately associate these movies with the comics to give them some sort of validity, and I think it's disingenuous by now, especially after this movie has proven to take so many liberties with the material. One look at that costume from the first movie and I can't imagine how someone can say "OMG just like the comics!!!" Doesn't make sense to me.

How are they more faithful, you ask? For me, character and tone is what counts.

I think we all care about that, and very much so.

Also, explained/justified negative responses are much better at sparking debates/discussions than the positive ones are. They're often more focused on a specific part of the movie. That's why I asked people to explain their problems with the film. It's not that I don't have to explain what I love about the film, it's that you explaining gets the ball rolling faster. Case in point, this post in particular (the one I'm replying to) getting like 5 responses already.

That seems like a distinction without a difference to me. Thought provoking discussions can be sparked by either or. From what I gather, the only reason that negativity tends to drum up more responses or questions, is that people overscrutinize it.

 

[OriginalMiles]

That action scene on the plane was so dull.

Dull?

DULL?

DULL!?

Okay, just making that clear.

 

[Em Dee]

The parents theme is my favorite on the score actually. Shame it wasn't included...

 

[Serpico Jones]

I thought the plane scene was good.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

I found that scene heartbreaking...

 

[Shikamaru]

I digged the parents stuff a lot more this time around. I felt like I got to know Richard Parker more as a character. In the first film, we never really got a chance to know him outside of Peter/Connors' memories.

More specifically, I loved that opening transition from the plane crash to Spidey dropping from the sky.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Dull?

DULL?

DULL!?

Okay, just making that clear.

Yes, I'll be using that word a lot.

 

[SpideyK]

The parents theme is my favorite on the score actually. Shame it wasn't included...

Dude, yes.

It. Has. To. Leak.

I thought the plane scene was good.

I found that scene heartbreaking...

I almost cried.

I digged the parents stuff a lot more this time around. I felt like I got to know Richard Parker more as a character. In the first film, we never really got a chance to know him outside of Peter/Connors' memories.

More specifically, I loved that opening transition from the plane crash to Spidey dropping from the sky.

I actually found the transition a little weird.

I was still emotionally shaken after the opening, so seeing Spidey swinging around happy and all, made me feel weird.

 

[OriginalMiles]

Yes, I'll be using that word a lot.

So... urm, for quick reference, what is this out of 10 for you?

 

[Perry9]

I digged the parents stuff a lot more this time around. I felt like I got to know Richard Parker more as a character. In the first film, we never really got a chance to know him outside of Peter/Connors' memories.

More specifically, I loved that opening transition from the plane crash to Spidey dropping from the sky.

I haven't seen the film yet, but if i'm not mistaken, you really need to know about Peter's parents in order to understand Harry's arc. With no parents, there is no GG.

Not so unnecessary, now, huh? t:

 

[Em Dee]

I digged the parents stuff a lot more this time around. I felt like I got to know Richard Parker more as a character. In the first film, we never really got a chance to know him outside of Peter/Connors' memories.

More specifically, I loved that opening transition from the plane crash to Spidey dropping from the sky.

Couldn't agree more.