Homecoming The Amazing Spider-Man 3 General Discussion - - - Part 12

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How I would handle this franchise in a fantasy world...

Spidey 3:
Introduce black suit spiderman, Mary Jane, J.J.Jameson, black cat(no origin), flash Thompson return (MJs boyfriend) and venom in spiderman 3.

Concentrate on the complexity of being spiderman use the new suit to emphasize duality issues. Develop more story focusing on spidey himself as he discovers the suit in a similar fashion to the spectacular spiderman story, including both Venom and Black Cat. This could be the focus of the story. The suit would attach to Parker but not for too long before he discovers it's true symbiotic intentions.

Develop more complexity in Peter Parker's present moment with moving on from the death of his love and getting use to a day job with hard ass J.J.Jameson as a boss, Parker could perhaps work with flash, and confide in his once enemy (due to Gwen's death).
Spiderman will develop trust with Flash as well as Mary Jane and interest in the mysterious black cat.

Forget the Parker parents drama (just pretend it never happened).
Minimal use of Aunt May.

Thinking he destroys the suit it will find its way into flashes life. Empowered and egotistical flash is though to be to be spidey in his new suit (by the media/J.J.Jameson). He will do things to separate himself from spidey, bad things. This will effect his alter ego as flash and draw him away from MJ. Only later to become completely driven insane, venom will confront MJ and destroy everything only to be defeated in a brutal showdown between him and spiderman. The movie will end with flash at ravencroft.(Agent venom will be Created in Mid-Credit scene) Parker and MJ will spark interest in one another due to the traumatic situation of witnessing a friend become a monster.



Sinister six:
Introduce agent venom, Felicia hardy/ Black cat(save her development for S6), Quentin Beck(to later become Mysterio,

Agent venom is created by same person who creates sinister six as a potential member?/reinforcement if they should turn on the guy behind the scenes.

The sinister six are introduced; Doc Ock, Vulture, and Green Goblin will be focus villains. While rhino, electro (new look/ take on character), and the lizard will be supporting characters. They are put together simply to kill spiderman and any other threat. (Corrupt government program funded via Oscorp?)

Agent venom will escape and the sinister six will kid nap Mary Jane to spite him. Spiderman will help agent venom to save Mary Jane and escape the sinister six. The sinister six will eventually regroup without lizard(he could struggle to kill spidey/show weakness), give rhino his new suit and then we add Mysterio to empower the team.

Spidey can join forces with agent venom, and black cat to defeat the sinister six even though he will defeat them single handily( unbeknownst to him). Epic battle scene ending in no death, though it will be brutal. This could wrap up what we want to see, leaving all characters intact.

Then BAM stop making movies for a few years, give this franchise the rest it deserves.
Although...
If done well can leave the door open for a Venom movie or perhaps a female led spidey film(black cat or a film including her in a spidey universe) though I think most of us want this mess cleaned and not open to more complexities.
 
Actually, it's interesting

These two are a very interesting pair. I was actually very surprised at what I learned from this. Black Cat and Catwoman, it would seem, have everything in common. Being that Catwoman's first appearance predates Black Cat by almost forty years, and they are virtually the same character by today's standards, by proxy you would think that Black Cat is a complete rip off of Catwoman. This is actually a HUGE misconception. Let me explain. Back in 1979, Marv Wolfman was looking for a new villain for Spider-Man. He decided to base his creation off of an old Tex Avery cartoon called "Bad Luck Blackie". Bad Luck Blackie was a black cat that brought misfortune to anyone that was close in proximity. Black Cat is a cat burglar in the Marvel universe. She wears very low cut, tight leather costumes, a mask, and has claws at the tips of her fingers on her gloves. She is very nimble and agile, which helps her in her cat burglaries. She also has a love interest in Spider-Man.

At first glance, this sounds almost exactly like Selina Kyle's Catwoman. However, at that time in Batman comics, Catwoman was only known as "The Cat" and she was nothing more than a pickpocket in a green dress with no mask. It was not until 1987 in Frank Miller's Batman: Year One, almost a decade AFTER Black Cat's appearance in comics, that Catwoman became the tight leather and mask wearing, clawed cat burglar that we know her as today. So if either of these characters are guilty of copying the other, one would have to say its Catwoman that is the copy-CAT. (See what I did there, again? I'm on a roll!) Mostly because at the time that Black Cat was created, she had almost no resemblance to the Catwoman in comics at that time. Presently both characters are identical. They are both high profile cat burglars that operate in tight leather, are extremely agile, and they are both love interests in their respective do-gooders lives. Pretty interesting, would you not agree?

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Catwoman was wearing tight leather before Year One....

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I still don't wish to see Black Cat on the big screen any time soon.
 
How I would handle this franchise in a fantasy world...

Spidey 3:
Introduce black suit spiderman, Mary Jane, J.J.Jameson, black cat(no origin), flash Thompson return (MJs boyfriend) and venom in spiderman 3.

Concentrate on the complexity of being spiderman use the new suit to emphasize duality issues. Develop more story focusing on spidey himself as he discovers the suit in a similar fashion to the spectacular spiderman story, including both Venom and Black Cat. This could be the focus of the story. The suit would attach to Parker but not for too long before he discovers it's true symbiotic intentions.

Develop more complexity in Peter Parker's present moment with moving on from the death of his love and getting use to a day job with hard ass J.J.Jameson as a boss, Parker could perhaps work with flash, and confide in his once enemy (due to Gwen's death).
Spiderman will develop trust with Flash as well as Mary Jane and interest in the mysterious black cat.

Forget the Parker parents drama (just pretend it never happened).
Minimal use of Aunt May.

Thinking he destroys the suit it will find its way into flashes life. Empowered and egotistical flash is though to be to be spidey in his new suit (by the media/J.J.Jameson). He will do things to separate himself from spidey, bad things. This will effect his alter ego as flash and draw him away from MJ. Only later to become completely driven insane, venom will confront MJ and destroy everything only to be defeated in a brutal showdown between him and spiderman. The movie will end with flash at ravencroft.(Agent venom will be Created in Mid-Credit scene) Parker and MJ will spark interest in one another due to the traumatic situation of witnessing a friend become a monster.



Sinister six:
Introduce agent venom, Felicia hardy/ Black cat(save her development for S6), Quentin Beck(to later become Mysterio,

Agent venom is created by same person who creates sinister six as a potential member?/reinforcement if they should turn on the guy behind the scenes.

The sinister six are introduced; Doc Ock, Vulture, and Green Goblin will be focus villains. While rhino, electro (new look/ take on character), and the lizard will be supporting characters. They are put together simply to kill spiderman and any other threat. (Corrupt government program funded via Oscorp?)

Agent venom will escape and the sinister six will kid nap Mary Jane to spite him. Spiderman will help agent venom to save Mary Jane and escape the sinister six. The sinister six will eventually regroup without lizard(he could struggle to kill spidey/show weakness), give rhino his new suit and then we add Mysterio to empower the team.

Spidey can join forces with agent venom, and black cat to defeat the sinister six even though he will defeat them single handily( unbeknownst to him). Epic battle scene ending in no death, though it will be brutal. This could wrap up what we want to see, leaving all characters intact.

Then BAM stop making movies for a few years, give this franchise the rest it deserves.
Although...
If done well can leave the door open for a Venom movie or perhaps a female led spidey film(black cat or a film including her in a spidey universe) though I think most of us want this mess cleaned and not open to more complexities.
Not bad man, some cool ideas in there. :up:

I still don't wish to see Black Cat on the big screen any time soon.
Too bad. :argh:
 
But dude

she's cool :word:
I love Black Cat. She would help mix things up with love interests for Spider-Man. It would be nice to maybe see Spidey, not Peter, have a "girlfriend" of sorts. That hasn't been done on film before.
 
I love Black Cat. She would help mix things up with love interests for Spider-Man. It would be nice to maybe see Spidey, not Peter, have a "girlfriend" of sorts. That hasn't been done on film before.

I think she's totally awesome! She'd bring a totally new dynamic to the films
 
El mayimbe and Da7e have a huge amount of trust in their source on this issue, and I'm trusting them on this

I asked about the "news" on ************** that Wilding posted and El Mayimbe gave me a thumbs down that it's not real.

Rest easy guys.
 
I asked about the "news" on ************** that Wilding posted and El Mayimbe gave me a thumbs down that it's not real.

Rest easy guys.

Just saw the tweet dude, awesome :up:

He's seriously confident in the scoop. It gives me hope, just a little
 
Fixed. :funny:

I'm kidding, just couldn't resist. :halo:

In all seriousness, why do you dislike Black Cat?
I've always seen her as a Catwoman ripoff (thanks for backing me up Levi) and don't like the idea of Peter being romantically involved with a woman that isn't MJ or Gwen.
:up:

Hope they are telling the truth.



I know you're not a fan of Black Cat and all, but... do you hate her that much??

"Hate" is a little too strong of a word. I think "dislike" would be a bit more appropriate.
 
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