Homecoming The Amazing Spider-Man 3 General Discussion - - - - Part 13

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I've seen people laugh at funerals, and I know they loved the person who died, its just how they reacted and they couldn't help it.

Nothing surprises me.
 
I laughed way too hard when she hit the ground. Like, as soon as the "THUD" noise came in.
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ImOctavius, you are one seriously in denial fan. First of all you accuse MCU movies of getting a pass with critics simply because they're part of the MCU, and now you try and categorize people who dislike TASM 2 as disliking it for any reason except legitimately disliking it because it was a poor movie to them.

I can already tell you're going to have a very tough time here.

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Yupp, and it's a good thing that Joker said he wouldn't gloat about it. That's a sign of respect right there.

The Joker is a class act, so I'm not surprised he said that.

Ah thanks, guys :up:
 
ImOctavius, you are one seriously in denial fan. First of all you accuse MCU movies of getting a pass with critics simply because they're part of the MCU, and now you try and categorize people who dislike TASM 2 as disliking it for any reason except legitimately disliking it because it was a poor movie to them.

I can already tell you're going to have a very tough time here.:
Oh, I'm sorry if I made you cry. First of all, not just MCU. There are many examples, like Nolan films, Scorsese films, Tarantino films. They are in a place where they received more flowers than they deserve. You can't criticized them. But when someone does it, people crucify him. And you can't tell me it's not true.

And second, I wasn't talking about dislike a movie, I was talking about HATE a movie, that is something completely different.
 
Joker, you don't have to make the guy feel unwelcome by saying "I can already tell you're going to have a tough time on here"
 
Oh, I'm sorry if I made you cry.

Comments like that will also give you a rough ride here.

First of all, not just MCU. There are many examples, like Nolan films, Scorsese films, Tarantino films. They are in a place where they received more flowers than they deserve. You can't criticized them. But when someone does it, people crucify him.

You must be doing selective reading. People criticize those movies all the time. Including the MCU ones. The argument you're making is that they are overrated (I assume that's what you mean by them getting more flowers than they deserve), not that they are bad movies that deserve rotten critical scores.

And second, I wasn't talking about dislike a movie, I was talking about HATE a movie, that is something completely different.

Hate/dislike, it's the same silly denial. You can't accept anyone could legitimately hate these movies because they found them to be that bad.

Joker, you don't have to make the guy feel unwelcome by saying "I can already tell you're going to have a tough time on here"

I don't welcome people who try to say we can't hate a movie because we think it's as bad as we think. Would you welcome someone who told you you can't like TASM 2 for the reasons you say you have?
 
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Joker, you don't have to make the guy feel unwelcome by saying "I can already tell you're going to have a tough time on here"
Don't worry. It's just a discussion. I think he misunderstood my words.

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I'd say Interstellar and Wolf of Wall Street got tons of criticisms. Those are not some smooth sailing universally loved films. Yes I ran into posters who called whoever didn't love Interstellar dumb but that's just what insufferable Nolan zealots do. Most weren't claiming such a thing.
 
Comments like that will also give you a rough ride here.
"you are one seriously in denial fan", and then you warned me saying that I'm "going to have a very tough time here". Okay... :doh:

What rock are you living under, or do you just do selective reading? People criticize those movies all the time. Including the MCU ones. The argument you're making is that they are overrated (I assume that's what you mean by them getting more flowers than they deserve), not that they are bad movies that deserve rotten critical scores.
So, are you agree with me?

Hate/dislike, it's the same silly denial. You can't accept anyone could legitimately hate these movies because they found them to be that bad.
Hate? Really? Could you hate a movie?
 
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I'd say Interstellar and Wolf of Wall Street got tons of criticisms. Those are not some smooth sailing universally loved films. Yes I ran into posters who called whoever didn't love Interstellar dumb but that's just what insufferable Nolan zealots do. Most weren't claiming such a thing.

Exactly.

Also Google 'Quentin Tarantino sucks' and see all the results you get. He's actually one of the more controversial directors with his overly violent style. A very popular director or set of movies always have critics and detractors. In fact the more popular they are the more likely they are to get criticized because there is always people who feel they are not worthy of the praise they get.
 
"you are one seriously in denial fan", and then you warned me saying that I'm "going to have a very tough time here". Okay... :doh:

Yes you are, if you go around telling people they are not hating a movie for legitimate reasons because they either want an MCU Spidey, or are stuck in Raimi nostalgia. Or that their MCU movies they love get a pass critically just because they are Marvel movie universe affiliated.

That is denial because both are unfounded, and in the case of the latter and with many people (myself included) untrue. It's like telling people they can only like TASM 2 because they are Spider-Man fans and are blind to the flaws.

So, are you agree with me?

That they're overrated or they're above criticism?

Hate? Really? Could you hate a movie? Would you wish it the worst? (I don't know if I write well this question)

Yes of course I could hate a movie. If it's bad enough, or butchers characters I really love, then definitely. I'm not sure what you mean by wish it the worst. Do you mean think it's the worst?
 
While I heavily disagree with Joker about Spider-Man movies in general, he has a point , there's no conspiracy or whatsoever.
 
It's a strange feeling seeing Andrew agree with me about something here. Kind of nice ;)
 
Just be careful with your right eyeball, it might fall with those constant winks.

Just sayin'. Even the worst enemy can have a soft side.
 
Yes you are, if you go around telling people they are not hating a movie for legitimate reasons because they either want an MCU Spidey, or are stuck in Raimi nostalgia. Or that their MCU movies they love get a pass critically just because they are Marvel movie universe affiliated.

That is denial because both are unfounded, and in the case of the latter and with many people (myself included) untrue. It's like telling people they can only like TASM 2 because they are Spider-Man fans and are blind to the flaws.

Yes of course I could hate a movie. If it's bad enough, or butchers characters I really love, then definitely. I'm not sure what you mean by wish it the worst. Do you mean think it's the worst?
I honestly think that hate a movie is irrational, because at the end of the day, it's just a bad movie. I know, we can love one, we can be inspired by one, but a bad bad very bad movie does not hurt you. I think you do hate a film, if you don't appreciate it as a what it is, a film. Just my thoughts.

That they're overrated or they're above criticism?
Not overrated. But I think they've got higher percentages because they're in the MCU, and that means that they are not judged as regular films. In fact, they're part of something bigger. So I think, a reviewer qualifies the franchise, not just the film. And I never talk about a conspiracy.

We can start all over, if you like. Peace.

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Just be careful with your right eyeball, it might fall with those constant winks.

Just sayin'. Even the worst enemy can have a soft side.

Two winks versus X number of puking smilies, I think your belly is in more danger than my eye right now, but thanks for the concern. It's nice that you care about my eyeball :oldrazz:

Trust me you're not my worst enemy. You're not even an enemy. I have no enemies here. Just a small handful of people I don't get along with. But again thanks for showing your soft side. It's a rare sight.
 
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