Homecoming The Amazing Spider-Man 3 General Discussion - Part 8

[harryoscop]

What if Fox buys Sony Pictures? and they incorporate Spidey into the X-Men cinematic universe?

 

[Spidey-Quad]

Unfortunately I believe Sony will never give up the rights willingly. Maybe partially, but not altogether. Greed is just too powerful. I can see Sony going the "Saw" way and making a yearly cheap cheap Spiderman movie and riding out the profits before giving up the rights.

 

[Havok83]

What happens if they make a deal with Sony and Sony ends up going belly-up in a year or two? I'd imagine they'd put that in the contact somewhere that they'd retain the rights in full?

Id imagine the rights would transfer back over to Marvel/Disney anyway. Spider-Man is their IP. Sony holds the license for movie based production of that IP, but with no Sony, it would default back to the original owners.

 

[Neno_Kos]

For disney to buy sony they would need a lot more reason then just spider-man, what else do They own that Disney would like and could cash in on?

In general to buy Sony would cost way more then buying spider-man alone

Sony Pictures already has enough healthy properties (Spider-Man, 007, Resident Evil, its animated properties, the seemingly surefire Goosebumps adaptations, and its comedy star vehicles) to survive and even thrive as they foster new franchises, attempt to reboot older ones (Men In Black, Ghostbusters, Charlie’s Angels, etc.),

I think they also have Grown Ups, 21/22 Jump Street and The Smurfs. But Bond franchise rights is good enough reason to buy studio along Spidey rights.

 

[Dark Raven]

Which makes me think they would make a deal with Marvel Studios about Spider-man separately.

I hope so. Imagine if another studio like Fox just swoops in and ends up owning Spider-Man. Then all deals with Marvel and any hope of him being in the MCU will be gone.

Maybe they'll combine Sony's crappy Sinister Six, Aunt May and female Carnage with FFINO.

 

[harryoscop]

^ I can't wait for the new FF tho.
I'd rather Sony keep making **** Spider-Man films, and spin-offs than for Fox to nab the rights

 

[Shanio1]

If there was anyway for spidey to go back to Marvel without any interference from sony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

 

[Dark Raven]

^ I can't wait for the new FF tho.
I'd rather Sony keep making **** Spider-Man films, and spin-offs than for Fox to nab the rights

I don't see how you can be mad at Sony's treatment of Spider-Man and their proposed plans but then be happy for Fox's treatment of Fantastic Four when their plans are just as bad a bastardisation, if not worse, than Sony's when you really look at it.

 

[Tymminator]

Unfortunately I believe Sony will never give up the rights willingly. Maybe partially, but not altogether. Greed is just too powerful. I can see Sony going the "Saw" way and making a yearly cheap cheap Spiderman movie and riding out the profits before giving up the rights.

What they want to do and what they may be forced to do are two different things.

They may not want to give it up, but if they get in a bad enough position it will go. That's what happens when you get in a bad enough financial position, you end up losing stuff you would rather not.

 

[harryoscop]

I don't see how you can be mad at Sony's treatment of Spider-Man and their proposed plans but then be happy for Fox's treatment of Fantastic Four when their plans are just as bad a bastardisation, if not worse, than Sony's when you really look at it.

As I've explained countless times in the FF forums, I've never really cared about the 616 FF, so why would I be concerned? the movie seems to be taking most of it's inspiration from UFF (which I'm a pretty big fan of). so i really have nothing to ***** about.

Spidey on the other hand, is my all time favorite character! (I'm a fan of 616 & Ultimate) and Sony has been treating him, his villains, and his supporting cast like **** lately. so I'm pretty goddamned pissed!

 

[Donut]

That stuff about Emma as Carnage is the funniest thing I read this year

Even better then Aunt May: The Spy ?

 

[Shanio1]

Even better then Aunt May: The Spy ?

Please don't remind me

 

[Dark Raven]

As I've explained countless times in the FF forums, I've never really cared about the 616 FF, so why would I be concerned? the movie seems to be taking most of it's inspiration from UFF (which I'm a pretty big fan of). so i really have nothing to ***** about.

Spidey on the other hand, is my all time favorite character! (I'm a fan of 616 & Ultimate) and Sony has been treating him, his villains, and his supporting cast like **** lately. so I'm pretty goddamned pissed!

But now you know how all FF fans feel, which is the exact same way that you feel about Spider-Man.

 

[The Villain]

Am I the only one here on the SHH forums who REALLY wanted to see Marc Webb continue just so we can see The Gentleman properly introduced?

I would love to have seen where this character would end up or what the overall plan was for him.

Michael Massee may also be cast to one side? oh well just have to live with it

Drew may yet have him penciled in but probably not.

 

[harryoscop]

But now you know how all FF fans feel, which is the exact same way that you feel about Spider-Man.

I guess you're right.. you guys want a proper adaptation of 616 FF, I totally understand. hopefully if Marvel ever gets the rights back, they'll grant you, your wish.

 

[Surfer]

Everyone is acting as if the Spider-man rights being transferable is a given if Sony ends up selling their studio. It really depends on how the original contract signed between them and Marvel reads. It could be just as easily that the contract stipulates that if a sale of the Sony Pictures company ever were to occur during their use of Spider-man that the rights would revert back to Marvel. We just don't know, as it could really go either way at this point with all the news and speculating. I am just really hoping it ends up with Marvel.

Surfer

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

I think they also have Grown Ups, 21/22 Jump Street and The Smurfs. But Bond franchise rights is good enough reason to buy studio along Spidey rights.

Disney sold Miramax because it didn't fit with their family friendly focus; raunchy comedies like those would be of no interest to them. Bond (which Sony shares with Paramount) doesn't really fit the Disney mold, either.

Everyone is acting as if the Spider-man rights being transferable is a given if Sony ends up selling their studio. It really depends on how the original contract signed between them and Marvel reads. It could be just as easily that the contract stipulates that if a sale of the Sony Pictures company ever were to occur during their use of Spider-man that the rights would revert back to Marvel. We just don't know, as it could really go either way at this point with all the news and speculating. I am just really hoping it ends up with Marvel.

Surfer

That's how Sony ended up with Spider-Man. Sony bought Columbia Pictures, who had bought the film rights from Marvel.

 

[Dark Raven]

Maybe we could get a Disney-fied Bond. Bring back Roger Moore!

 

[Shanio1]

If disney got James Bond's rights they could literally have a Mickey Mouse,Marvel,Star-Wars and James Bond crossover

 

[Surfer]

Disney sold Miramax because it didn't fit with their family friendly focus; raunchy comedies like those would be of no interest to them. Bond (which Sony shares with Paramount) doesn't really fit the Disney mold, either.



That's how Sony ended up with Spider-Man. Sony bought Columbia Pictures, who had bought the film rights from Marvel.

Fair enough!

Surfer

 

[bapi]

MGM owns Bond. Sony is a co-financer and distributor. Paramount is not involved.

 

[bapi]

And Emilia Clarke as Scorpio... Ugh. Clarke is not a good actress + she looks like a child.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Disney are very child friendly and I dunno if I Could see James Bond being something Disney would even want while marvel and star wars is good because there is so much you can do with these universes and each will payback the money they spent to gain the rights in first place with solo films and spin offs

Sony have a lot of different properties and honestly if I was Disney I'd be in no rush for most of them

 

[Tymminator]

Fair enough!

Surfer

To be fair, I see no reason during the last round of negotiations years ago when Marvel got 100% of merchandising, that Marvel worked a deal with Sony via new contract that in case the studio got sold or whatever, Spidey would go back to Marvel first.

Keeping your eyes peeled and your ears open for the next few months is the only way we will see how this all shakes out.

 

[smashmode]

What if Fox buys Sony Pictures? and they incorporate Spidey into the X-Men cinematic universe?

I'm guessing Spider-Man's rights revert back to Marvel.