The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread

[UltimateWebhead]

I don't think it's that they're bad at marketing, it's that they're really, really evil and they're teasing the heck out of us.

They do tease us quite a bit LOL. Bastards!

I also think they play it smart...not letting things get leaked until THEY want them to be shown. I also think that people, thanks to increases in technology, have become so impatient.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Agreed. I thought Sam did that perfectly. I mean, we saw Peter mature through each film and it really was a great journey because the audience matured as well. I would like to see it again here.

Agreed.

Considering he was what SAM WANTED, yes. He would have.

Even though I prefer Venom, I'd rather see a good movie that doesn't have shoe-horned characters rather than the complete opposite.

But how would the film be any better with a lesser villain?

Venom....for a fourth movie. As much as I would have used the symbiote, Venom and even Sandman were not necessary. Harry should have been the main, and only villain. That would've been a better movie. And besides, to a point, Black-Suited Spider-Man could have been a villain, so we wouldn't need two more.

Agreed.

I'm sure you will. I doubt the entire series will be placed within high school. I wouldn't mind if the sequel is partly during Peter's senior year then as a freshman in college. As much as Raimi tried to keep the progressing story of Peter going through life, I hope Webb pays more attention to Peter in school, either high school or college. We rarely saw Peter in college and I always forget that Peter was still in college in Spider-Man 3 because we hardly saw it.

I hope so.

 

[elsewhere]

What happened to that dude saying his friend saw a pre-screening of TASM recently? Bogus?

 

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

Bad at marketing? I don't understand this...

We have 7 months to go. We have gotten a bunch of magazine articles, a teaser trailer, set photos, posters, an official website, concept art, interviews with the cast, comic-con, etc.

And if you think that no one knows about this movie, watch when one of the actors, ie Emma Stone, Denis Leary... go on a talk show to promote another project; the talk always turns towards Spider-man.

It's even been made fun of on the show Mad quite a few times. Example:
"And now for a look at Andrew Garfield as the new Spider-Man. Oh wait that's former president James Garfield who was also apparently a Spider-Man fan."
Probably doesn't count though because it's a kids show, though a lot of teen and adult movies get made fun of on it.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

They're playing their cards patiently, but effectively. The next trailer will stir up a lot more hype for the movie. And it will do that a lot better once everybody stops talking about The Hobbit and TDKR and starts waiting for even more footage.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

It's even been made fun of on the show Mad quite a few times. Example:
"And now for a look at Andrew Garfield as the new Spider-Man. Oh wait that's former president James Garfield who was also apparently a Spider-Man fan."
Probably doesn't count though because it's a kids show, though a lot of teen and adult movies get made fun of on it.

Mad is still a show on TV?!

See what I did there.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

What happened to that dude saying his friend saw a pre-screening of TASM recently? Bogus?

That was me. You haven't been paying attention; I said I saw a pre-screening of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (which I did) and I was adamant that I'd see a trailer for TASM. That wasn't the case. I'm a man of my word, and if I saw a trailer, I would tell you guys and give you as many details as possible.

 

[Troy_Parker]

But how would the film be any better with a lesser villain?

I can't believe we're arguing if Spider-Man 3 would have been better without shoehorned characters and a forced storyline.

 

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

Mad is still a show on TV?!

See what I did there.

Yes.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I can't believe we're arguing if Spider-Man 3 would have been better without shoehorned characters and a forced storyline.

Exactly.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Yes.

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[AbsractPo3tic]

That was me. You haven't been paying attention; I said I saw a pre-screening of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (which I did) and I was adamant that I'd see a trailer for TASM. That wasn't the case. I'm a man of my word, and if I saw a trailer, I would tell you guys and give you as many details as possible.

and out of curiosity because I can't wait to see it, how was the girl with the dragon tattoo?

 

[Godzilla2014]

I can't believe we're arguing if Spider-Man 3 would have been better without shoehorned characters and a forced storyline.

You're not answering the question. What would make a Spider-Man 3 with Vulture any better than the one we got with Venom? How would the film be improved by that change?

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

and out of curiosity because I can't wait to see it, how was the girl with the dragon tattoo?

It was a good movie. I can't tell if it's a good adaptation of the book or not, 'cause I haven't read it yet. Rooney Mara stole the show, but Daniel Craig did a good job, too.

Spoiler

Those anal rape scenes... eurgh... that fat guy got what was coming to him.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

It was a good movie. I can't tell if it's a good adaptation of the book or not, 'cause I haven't read it yet. Rooney Mara stole the show, but Daniel Craig did a good job, too.

Spoiler

Those anal rape scenes... eurgh... that fat guy got what was coming to him.

Awesome.that's all I needed to know lol

Spoiler

and my boy told me about the rape scenes and he said they looked damn near like Fincher shot footage of someone getting raped and just put it in the movie; it looked that real and intense

 

[UltimateWebhead]

You're not answering the question. What would make a Spider-Man 3 with Vulture any better than the one we got with Venom? How would the film be improved by that change?

It probably wouldn't. They ruined the whole Black suit storyline, which was the main focus of the movie for Spidey...in another words, if the dancing scenes and eyeliner were still in there then the movie would still have been a cringe worthy cry-fest of despair and cheesiness.

 

[Anno_Domini]

You're not answering the question. What would make a Spider-Man 3 with Vulture any better than the one we got with Venom? How would the film be improved by that change?

If we would've gone with Raimi's idea, I think Sandman should've been the only villain with a damn-good storyline to boot.

As for the Vulture...I'm biased because I don't like Vulture period, so I'd say 'nay' for that guy.

 

[Godzilla2014]

If we would've gone with Raimi's idea, I think Sandman should've been the only villain with a damn-good storyline to boot.

As for the Vulture...I'm biased because I don't like Vulture period, so I'd say 'nay' for that guy.

I agree.

 

[Anno_Domini]

It probably wouldn't. They ruined the whole Black suit storyline, which was the main focus of the movie for Spidey...in another words, if the dancing scenes and eyeliner were still in there then the movie would still have been a cringe worthy cry-fest of despair and cheesiness.

You do know those happened because of the symbiote and the symbiote wouldn't have been involved with Raimi's original idea for Spider-Man 3, yes?

Granted, Raimi is the one that butchered the take on the symbiote, but if Arad didn't stick his big head into the mix, the symbiote would not have been used and shown as a joke.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

You do know those happened because of the symbiote and the symbiote wouldn't have been involved with Raimi's original idea for Spider-Man 3, yes?

Granted, Raimi is the one that butchered the take on the symbiote, but if Arad didn't stick his big head into the mix, the symbiote would not have been used and shown as a joke.

That's my point. Even if you changed the villain it wouldn't have saved the rest of the movie. And I'm so fed up with oh Raimi this and Raimi that or Avi this or Avi that...they ALL *****ed it up! Period.

 

[Anno_Domini]

That's my point. Even if you changed the villain it wouldn't have saved the rest of the movie. And I'm so fed up with oh Raimi this and Raimi that or Avi this or Avi that...they ALL *****ed it up! Period.

No...your point doesn't make sense. If they switched up with Vulture over Venom, then that's basically going to give us Raimi's original idea because there would also be no use for the symbiote. Thus, I doubt Raimi would have purposely ****ed up his own idea, and Spider-Man 3 may have been a good film.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

That's my point. Even if you changed the villain it wouldn't have saved the rest of the movie. And I'm so fed up with oh Raimi this and Raimi that or Avi this or Avi that...they ALL *****ed it up! Period.

if the director and the studio take credit when things go right then they both have take credit when things go wrong. The studio shouldn't have pushed anything on him but as the director, its your job to make the best out of what you're given and Sam always said he didn't understand Venom or his appeal and it showed. It is what it is at this point

 

[Troy_Parker]

You're not answering the question. What would make a Spider-Man 3 with Vulture any better than the one we got with Venom? How would the film be improved by that change?

How would the film not be better if it didn't have a ****** forced arc?

I'm not saying that it definitely would have been better, but considering how good Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 were when Sam Raimi GOT WHAT HE WANTED, I have an inclination to say that yes, it probably would have been better than what we got.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

How would the film not be better if it didn't have a ****** forced arc?

I'm not saying that it definitely would have been better, but considering how good Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 were when Sam Raimi GOT WHAT HE WANTED, I have an inclination to say that yes, it probably would have been better than what we got.

Gotta agree with that. There's a chance it wouldn't have been but probably a better chance that it would've been

 

[UltimateWebhead]

No...your point doesn't make sense. If they switched up with Vulture over Venom, then that's basically going to give us Raimi's original idea because there would also be no use for the symbiote. Thus, I doubt Raimi would have purposely ****ed up his own idea, and Spider-Man 3 may have been a good film.

Yes. See what Abstract posted. No matter what the decision by the studio it's still Raimi's job to make quality out of it. He failed. Symbiote or no symbiote, Vulture or no Vulture he should have done his job. He didn't.