The Atheism Thread - Part 5

[Johnny Blaze]

Only one I know of, currently, is that dude in Australia who, I believe, claims to be a reincarnated Jesus.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Only one I know of, currently, is that dude in Australia who, I believe, claims to be a reincarnated Jesus.

I think there is some preacher in America who has a following (can't say how many) who claims it.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Here is a list on wiki:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus

 

[Piper Maru]

 

[Hawkingbird]

Self-righteous atheist *****ebaggery

 

[moviedoors]

Self-righteous atheist *****ebaggery

Come on. That second one especially is dead on.

 

[Piper Maru]

Self-righteous atheist *****ebaggery

Can you handle that?

Spoiler

Come on. That second one especially is dead on.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I don't know, I can't tell you how many times the "God of the gaps" shows up whenever I have a... discussion with a theist.

But that is what modern science has reduced religion to.

Well, I guess you could also go the Evangelical route, and just call science an outright lie.

 

[Piper Maru]

To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today.

- Isaac Asimov

 

[Grievous]

If someone could prove God existed as easy as 1,2,3 then everyone would be of complete faith. Religion isn't about facts but faith. It's what you choose to believe in and if you honestly believe then you will be rewarded. That's what it simply comes down to. A test of your faith I guess you could put it.

 

[Hawkingbird]

I think the sign of true igronance is to completely deny the possibility of God. As I've said again and again, I do not believe in God. I do not believe fully in Science. I believe in the possibility that the scientists have got it right much more than I believe in the possibility of God; never the less, I'm still open to the fact that there may be one.
I also think atheism produces just as many idiots as religion- as that cartoon proves.

 

[Edguy]

Very few deny the possibility of God. But because something isn't impossible, that doesn't mean you have a reason to believe in it. Also, saying atheism, or religion, produces idiots is wrong. People are what they are because they are idiots, not the other way around.

 

[Piper Maru]

I think Lovecraft had the right idea.

 

[KalMart]

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Bee-dee-Bee-dee-Bee-dee-Bee-dee-.......hallelujah....!

 

[Doctor Evo]

It's what you choose to believe in and if you honestly believe then you will be rewarded.

Not necessarily the case at all.

 

[Piper Maru]

I wonder how Jesus is doing these days? Is he on vacation or what?

 

[Doctor Evo]

I think the sign of true igronance is to completely deny the possibility of God. As I've said again and again, I do not believe in God. I do not believe fully in Science. I believe in the possibility that the scientists have got it right much more than I believe in the possibility of God; never the less, I'm still open to the fact that there may be one.
I also think atheism produces just as many idiots as religion- as that cartoon proves.

Most atheists don't completely deny the possibility of the existence of a god or gods.

Also, when you say you do not, "believe fully in Science," what do you mean? And it seems to me that you're presenting a false dichotomy between "science" and "god."

 

[Matt Mortem]

How does someone not believe in Science? It's not a matter of faith.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Actually, I find most describe both as something not physical but spiritual.

I think South Park was pretty dead on when it spoofed Dawkins and all those atheist factions. Spirituality seems to me to have a lot to do with empathy, something I notice many atheists lack. I'm not sure, even if everyone became atheists, that we'd get rid of wars or "religious" differences. We'd probably find new spirituality that fit more within the confines of science, but still leads to all the same issues.

 

[redhawk23]

Many wars that are supposedly religious are actually conflicts over other things, territory resources, power and the like. Religion just become the dividing line between groups, but one that obscures the real issues.

 

[Doctor Evo]

How does someone not believe in Science? It's not a matter of faith.

Well, I think someone might reasonably be able to argue that science can't answer certain types of questions, but this assumes that those types of questions can be answered in the first place. I think it's asinine.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Many wars that are supposedly religious are actually conflicts over other things, territory resources, power and the like. Religion just become the dividing line between groups, but one that obscures the real issues.

Bingo.

Specifically since many of those leaders weren't believers themselves, but recognizing their populations were they drummed up a bunch of emotions by invoking God.

 

[Doctor Evo]

Spirituality seems to me to have a lot to do with empathy, something I notice many atheists lack.

How do you figure that one? This should be good.

 

[redhawk23]

Well, I think someone might reasonably be able to argue that science can't answer certain types of questions, but this assumes that those types of questions can be answered in the first place. I think it's asinine.

Yes there are certain kinds of questions science cannot answer, but I've never understood how that's a reflection on the things that it does and can answer.

The remainder of questions are the perview of philosophy, but philosophy need not be religion. Not saying that you are, but it drives me nuts when people try to equate a non religious viewpoint entirely with science and try to criticize it with the limitations of science.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

How do you figure that one? This should be good.

Just a casual observation. It seems to appeal to a lot to people who have low degrees of empathy. Religion, particularly the spirituality portion of it, seems to appeal to people's emotional connections. It's also seems to be why it's so easily co-opted.

I must admit, atheism doesn't really make me feel emotionally connected to other people.

Your response is a great example: you immediately act snarky. Classic signs of low empathy. It also seems to indicate you think this is directed at you, a sign of narcissism, another sign of low empathy.