The Atheism Thread - Part 7

[KevanG]

Many religions have many similarities and shared stories. There's several people here who have refused to even look at information given to show that a god risen from the dead is thousands of years predating jesus and we had one moron aka Peace Warrior who demanded that Hebrew was the oldest spoken language ever. Even when presented with many many many sources that disputed that he refused to even glace at it because his 'sources', which usually had no resources to fall back on said so.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Isn't the story of Jesus supposed to be very similar to the Egyptian God known as "Horus?"

 

[KevanG]

Osiris and Horus have similarities.

 

[Marvolo]

Isn't the story of Jesus supposed to be very similar to the Egyptian God known as "Horus?"

According to the internet, yes, but Ive heard (from non biased non christian people) that the similarities are made up similar to other conspiracy stuff online. People just want to find connections. Regardless, Jesus does have similarities to Sun deities and modern Catholicism and Christianity at large is an amalgamation of Sun Worship and other pagan practices co-opted to convert the heathen masses after Constantine decided the Roman Empire should recognize Christianity as a state religion.

 

[KevanG]

There really isn't much in one religion that isn't found in any number of others in varying ways.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Doesn't that explain why Christmas is celebrated in December?

 

[KevanG]

Cawse its jeezuses birthday!

(Even though it's not)

 

[Marvolo]

There really isn't much in one religion that isn't found in any number of others in varying ways.

Well, yeah, but few seem to have the balls that the early church did. They'd take a pagan holiday or festival or figure and rebrand it and call it sacred lol. They got the Franks loyalty by telling them Jesus was a hammer weilding lightning blasting warrior god that would deliver them from their enemies if they worshiped Jesus and help the Empire.

Hell, Id like tl know more about that Jesus lol.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Aww lawdy

 

[KevanG]

I don't know how credible it is but has anyone read the cut stories about kid jesus from the bible?

http://www.cracked.com/article_18948_5-real-deleted-bible-scenes-in-which-jesus-kicks-some-ass.html

Jesus was provoked and said unto him, "Thou shalt not finish thy course." And immediately he fell down and died.
-- Infancy Gospel of Thomas 4:1

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Please tell me they call him kid Jesus in the stories

 

[Marvolo]

I don't know how credible it is but has anyone read the cut stories about kid jesus from the bible?

http://www.cracked.com/article_18948_5-real-deleted-bible-scenes-in-which-jesus-kicks-some-ass.html

Yeah, he made birds out of clay ans oushed his friends off roofs. He was a little dick lol.

 

[KevanG]

If they used some of this in the bible and taught it to kids it's probably make more believers out of them.

Then the Lord Jesus calling the serpent, it presently came forth and submitted to him; to whom he said, "Go and suck out all the poison which thou hast infused into that boy"; so the serpent crept to the boy, and took away all its poison again. Then the Lord Jesus cursed the serpent so that it immediately burst asunder, and died.
-- First Gospel of Infancy 18:13-16

Jesus SNAKE EXPLODER!

 

[Picard Sisko]

Did anyone watch the Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham debate in its entirety? 3 hours of goodness.

 

[KevanG]

I got to the first half but never finished.

 

[MrsKent26]

If they used some of this in the bible and taught it to kids it's probably make more believers out of them.

Then the Lord Jesus calling the serpent, it presently came forth and submitted to him; to whom he said, "Go and suck out all the poison which thou hast infused into that boy"; so the serpent crept to the boy, and took away all its poison again. Then the Lord Jesus cursed the serpent so that it immediately burst asunder, and died.
-- First Gospel of Infancy 18:13-16

Jesus SNAKE EXPLODER!

Whoa...didn't know he was such a badass.

 

[KevanG]

He killed people and dragons in the cut parts of the bible. I have a link above.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Jesus was quite the rapscallion in his youth, I hear he listened to the rock music as well.

 

[Marvolo]

Jesus was quite the rapscallion in his youth, I hear he listened to the rock music as well.

AC/DC, Metallica, and Ozzy. None of that Alternative Rock BS we have today.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

AC/DC, Metallica, and Ozzy. None of that Alternative Rock BS we have today.

Hell. Yes. :kicks over a garbage can and air guitars::

 

[Picard Sisko]

I got to the first half but never finished.

I somehow made it through the full 3 hours (but not in one single viewing).

 

[MrsKent26]

I didn't know much about parts of the Bible being cut. That makes it even more odd to take it as evidence of facts if you consider that it's edited like any other book.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

There needs to be a directors cut for the bible.

 

[SV Fan]

I didn't know much about parts of the Bible being cut. That makes it even more odd to take it as evidence of facts if you consider that it's edited like any other book.

It's not as much cut, it's more a case their was gospels written after Jesus death(from like 70AD to 200 AD) that didn't make the cut when the RC Church decided what stories it wanted in and out of it's bible.

It should be noted the big 4(Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) were written between 70AD and 110AD. It's also believed that words might have been added to those gospels to make them fit the Jesus is the literal Son of God(as opposed to a prophet and figurative Son of God)

Some of the more famous Gospels that didn't make the cut

Gospel of Timothy (40-140)
Infancy Gospel of Thomas (85-180)
Gospel of Mary 2nd Century
Gospel of Judas 2nd Century

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-canonical

In terms of Christianity, it seems Peter's version of Jesus won out over other versions(since his words seem to get favoritism in the modern bible and alot of focus)

 

[MrsKent26]

It's not as much cut, it's more a case their was gospels written after Jesus death(from like 70AD to 200 AD) that didn't make the cut when the RC Church decided what stories it wanted in and out of it's bible.

It should be noted the big 4(Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) were written between 70AD and 110AD. It's also believed that words might have been added to those gospels to make them fit the Jesus is the literal Son of God(as opposed to a prophet and figurative Son of God)

Very interesting...and dubious. I just can't fathom taking something like this as fact and living by it. My mind just won't go there.