The Avengers The Avengers: News and Speculation - Part 27A sub-se - - - Part 12

[wobbly]

I was under the impression that Fury wants Blonsky for the Avengers Initiative. Son of Coul knows this is a bad idea but has to do as ordered. So he improvises.

I dunno...Fury would know what Blonsky did in New York so I cant see any reason why he'd want him on the Avengers team.

My guess is Fury wants to question and likely examine him, with his one good eye on maybe recreating a stable version of the creature. That would be enough for Son of Coul to want nothing to with it.

Would also like a little mention as to what the British Government think of the matter. They guy was 'on loan' to Ross so you'd think they would have an interest in what happens to him.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

It's not like they haven't reported true things before.

Also, I find the rule against posting links to there asinine and stupid, especially since I found proof that there's no reason it should be enforced.

It's not like they haven't posted completely unfounded and untrue crap either. They do it all the time. And there's no real rule against posting links to CBM, except common sense.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

I dunno...Fury would know what Blonsky did in New York so I cant see any reason why he'd want him on the Avengers team.

My guess is Fury wants to question and likely examine him, with his one good eye on maybe recreating a stable version of the creature. That would be enough for Son of Coul to want nothing to with it.

Would also like a little mention as to what the British Government think of the matter. They guy was 'on loan' to Ross so you'd think they would have an interest in what happens to him.

well, look at all the destruction the hulk has caused.. but, he still wanted him on the team

fact:
-Blonsky was a decorated soldier
-he also seemed to be more in control, then the hulk was
(he just went crazy with power at first)

so, I could see where he might be the more logical choice...
(not that I am saying it was a good idea, or that it would of worked out)

Furry was probably abit overzealous in his believe that he could control him/or could reason with him

Coulson recognized that, but, didn't want to question Furry authority

 

[roach]

It seems to me...and I havent looked at the clip....that Shield doest want to have the Hulk join up...but to capture him. Its why Tony went to see Ross. You dont go to Ross to try to get the Hulk to join...you go to Ross for the capture. It seems to me that they go after the Hulk and during the course they discover that he can be controlled or a bigger threat rears its head....which we'll see in Avengers

 

[jab1118]

I really dont like the goofy tone of the whole thing. I get the feeling the more we see of this the less it will be a cool bridge between movies and more of lame comedy skit

 

[Spider-Fan83]

It seems to me...and I havent looked at the clip....that Shield doest want to have the Hulk join up...but to capture him. Its why Tony went to see Ross. You dont go to Ross to try to get the Hulk to join...you go to Ross for the capture. It seems to me that they go after the Hulk and during the course they discover that he can be controlled or a bigger threat rears its head....which we'll see in Avengers

I think that was the original idea

but, they changed the storyline since, and this clip is more of a way to explain that scene, to fit their new storyline

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

That Consultant short was awesome

It shows me that maybe guys like General Ross may return!!!!

Agreed! Things are shaping up to be fantastic.

 

[Troy_Parker]

What The Consultant short? Link!!

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

As for the helicarrier stuff, I don't it MIGHT be true. However, I'm only taking it with a grain of salt.

 

[NickNitro]

I would love to see General Coulsons Hulk Buster Initiative and Shields Initiative butting heads with finding/obtaining the Hulk in the beginning of The Avengers

I cannot believe they are intersecting all these characters. Marvel has SOME SERIOUS CAJONES for doing this, and that Hell Carrier post being too much money, I feel this is BS. Disney honestly has some of the deepest pockets in the industry and to think they would spare expenses on what could potentially be their greatest franchise to date would make me to the max.

I remember the anger and distain when the very first news of Disney buying out Marvel.....now look at it. This might be the greatest alliance of film corporations thus far.

In Disney/Marvel I trust.

Edit: Random question......how come my avatar is soo small (first time having one)

 

[Rock Sexton]

well, look at all the destruction the hulk has caused.. but, he still wanted him on the team

fact:
-Blonsky was a decorated soldier
-he also seemed to be more in control, then the hulk was
(he just went crazy with power at first)

so, I could see where he might be the more logical choice...
(not that I am saying it was a good idea, or that it would of worked out)

Furry was probably abit overzealous in his believe that he could control him/or could reason with him

Coulson recognized that, but, didn't want to question Furry authority

You're not getting it. Remember the super soldier serum brings out the worst in people .... it did exactly that with Blonsky, both physically and mentally. Put the gamma radiated blood on top of that and you've got a complete mess .... aka Abomination. He's in no way shape or form "team-worthy" anymore.

 

[Donut]

It seems to me...and I havent looked at the clip....that Shield doest want to have the Hulk join up...but to capture him. Its why Tony went to see Ross. You dont go to Ross to try to get the Hulk to join...you go to Ross for the capture. It seems to me that they go after the Hulk and during the course they discover that he can be controlled or a bigger threat rears its head....which we'll see in Avengers

I guess something could happen like. The Avengers goes to capture The Hulk but then Loki is also trying to go after The Hulk at the same time & then if Banner is in control of The Hulk helps out The Avengers ?

 

[BatmanInc]

didn't want to question Furry authority

I'm sorry, but....but...that's just so funny.

 

[wobbly]

well, look at all the destruction the hulk has caused.. but, he still wanted him on the team

1) We don't know yet if Fury wants the Hulk on the team, or if he just wants Banner under Shield custody.
2) Assuming Fury has studied accurate reports of the Hulks antics he'd know full well his rampages are retaliatory. Blonky's New York rampage wasn't.

fact:
-Blonsky was a decorated soldier
-he also seemed to be more in control, then the hulk was
(he just went crazy with power at first)

Fact: Blonky's distinguished record went out the window the moment he became the Abomination. In that form he was not in control. He was throwing cars around and killing pedestrians under no provocation. He killed his own soldiers and tried to Kill Ross and Betty.

so, I could see where he might be the more logical choice...
(not that I am saying it was a good idea, or that it would of worked out)

Furry was probably abit overzealous in his believe that he could control him/or could reason with him

Coulson recognized that, but, didn't want to question Furry authority

I'm still going with wanting to question/examine (maybe even dissect) him (The key word in the dialogue for me is 'debrief').
Given the light hearted tone of the clip the agents wanting to sabotage the transfer fits with them simply not wanting to be the guys having to oversee such a risky task.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

Blonky's distinguished record went out the window the moment he became the Abomination. In that form he was not in control. He was throwing cars around and killing pedestrians under no provocation. He killed his own soldiers and tried to Kill Ross and Betty...

I didn't say his actions weren't out of control, I said he was in control of them...

yes, he was acting recklessly, and put people in danger, an even killed, but, he seemed aware of what he was doing, he was talking, an mocking... he wasn't just acting out of instinct like the hulk does, he wasn't just rampaging around aimlessly
(he just didn't care, most like as a result of the bad mixture, of SS serum, gamma blood, effecting his mind, an increasing the darker side of his personality) which was obviously within him all along

 

[wobbly]

I didn't say his actions weren't out of control, I said he was in control of them...

yes, he was acting recklessly, and put people in danger, an even killed, but, he seemed aware of what he was doing, he was talking, an mocking... he wasn't just acting out of instinct like the hulk does, he wasn't just rampaging around aimlessly
(he just didn't care, most like as a result of the bad mixture, of SS serum, gamma blood, effecting his mind, an increasing the darker side of his personality) which was obviously within him all along

Ok, I get what you're saying, and yes Blonkys was in control of himself in that he knew exactly what he was doing. That however makes things far worse.

See, your are saying that Blonsky being in control of his clearly murderous actions makes him a more suitable choice for Fury than the hulk, who does not rampage about aimlessly: Hulk deals with whatever threatened him/Banner, without harming innocents, then leaves.

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

Pretty cool collection of The Avengers minimalist posters:

 

[NickNitro]

RIM Those are awesome. I would love to hang those in my room.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Aw, BatmanInc got banned while I was crafting a pithy response to his moronic comments. Pity.

 

[Iceman]

Very nice posters!

 

[Dark Raven]

Pretty cool collection of The Avengers minimalist posters:

What's that thing for the Hulk supposed to be? Also, why does Hawkeye have one of these?

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

What's that thing for the Hulk supposed to be?

 

[Raiden]

What's that thing for the Hulk supposed to be? Also, why does Hawkeye have one of these?

Hulk's poster has the double helix artwork to show that his DNA has been changed after the gamma radiation incident. As for Hawkeye, isn't it obvious? He's an archer and a marksman, so of course he'll have a bullseye in his poster.

 

[Dark Raven]

Hulk's poster has the double helix artwork to show that his DNA has been changed after the gamma radiation incident. As for Hawkeye, isn't it obvious? He's an archer and a marksman, so of course he'll have a bullseye in his poster.

Well I was talking about Target, the superstore.

 

[bored]

Hawkeye founded Target, duh.