The Avengers The Avengers: News and Speculation - Part 27A sub-se - - - - - - Part 15

[Whiskey Tango]

Because they're too busy with their own problems to be teaming up?

Aye, the same way the comics have been explaining it for 50 years.

 

[marvel_freshman]

Anybody else google the name of the jewelry store that Loki was seen at? It's called "Colantotte" and it's a Japanese bracelet company...weird product placement.

Heres a pic from the "extras" that were in the scene, running from the store. Plus, confirmation of my theory of the aliens' spaceship hovering over the scene; even though it was quite obvious.

Earlier in the day at the mythical corner of Vanderbilt Avenue (Prospect Avenue) and 42nd Street (East Ninth) in the mock New York City set, windows of the mythical Colantotte Jewelry Store were shattered by gunfire and a group of extras ran out of the store, their eyes fixed skyward in looks of terror. One of the windows stubbornly refused to break, so a technician picked up a rock, a real one among the fake rubble littering the street, and shattered the final pane. An unconfirmed sighting of Tom Hiddleston (Loki) was reported outside the jewelry store.
A Medical Mutual employee was told that the extras were looking in horror at a spaceship that would be computer generated above their building.

http://www.cleveland.com/avengers/index.ssf/2011/08/avengers_turning_cleveland_ohi.html

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Fleeing Japanese? Skrulls aren't in the movie, Loki summoned Godzilla!

 

[Spider-Vader]

Or maybe the Skrulls shapeshifted into Godzilla? :P

 

[sgaana]

I think they will probably take the Ultimates route, where other members were skeptical about Thor's true origin until the end. It will be the best way to "ease" the Avengers into accepting an Asgardian god as part of their team.

It's not quite the same situation as in Ultimates, though. SHIELD -- in the persons of Coulson and the agents he had with him -- have already seen the Bifrost in action several times. And they spent a while trying to figure out why the heck they couldn't move Mjolnir -- which, IIRC, wasn't a feature of U!Thor's first, techno hammer in Ultimates.

I don't think that will stop others from being skeptical, or themselves pulling out the "magic schmagic, it's advanced science" explanation (although personally I am crossing my fingers that we get to see Tony driven nuts by nobody being able to lift Mjolnir, for which there is no conventional explanation). But SHIELD can tell them all that Thor is the real deal... of some sort.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Do anyone still think Coulson(Son of Coul) is a Shrull?

 

[steintym]

Fleeing Japanese? Skrulls aren't in the movie, Loki summoned Godzilla!

 

[steintym]

Do anyone still think Coulson(Son of Coul) is a Shrull?

I think someone within SHIELD probably is. Not sure I believe it is Coulson, though. If it is the typical Skrulls infiltration, I figure someone will be revealed as a Skrull, but not ready to believe it is him (or I don't want to believe it is him).

 

[Dark Raven]

Fleeing Japanese? Skrulls aren't in the movie, Loki summoned Godzilla!

If that's the case, hopefully we'll get some bad English dubbing or subtitles for this movie.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I think someone within SHIELD probably is. Not sure I believe it is Coulson, though. If it is the typical Skrulls infiltration, I figure someone will be revealed as a Skrull, but not ready to believe it is him (or I don't want to believe it is him).

Why do you not want "to believe" it's him... chances are, if someone is an infiltrator, it would be an established character that the GA have grown to trust.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Do anyone still think Coulson(Son of Coul) is a Shrull?

No. Skrulls are the baddies. Besides, Coulson's backstory in the MCU has already been established. He's been good from the get go

EDIT: Doesn't mean he's human, though

 

[Marvel]

Maybe they couldn't have filmed this in Detroit afterall. That much gun fire would've drawn return fire from surrounding buildings for sure.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Heres a pic from the "extras" that were in the scene, running from the store. Plus, confirmation of my theory of the aliens' spaceship hovering over the scene; even though it was quite obvious.

http://www.cleveland.com/avengers/index.ssf/2011/08/avengers_turning_cleveland_ohi.html

 

[Rock Sexton]

No. Skrulls are the baddies. Besides, Coulson's backstory in the MCU has already been established. He's been good from the get go

EDIT: Doesn't mean he's human, though

Haha you just had to throw that last part in there!

 

[Poni_Boy]

Haha you just had to throw that last part in there!

Well... yeah lol

People have this penchant for thinking the Skrulls are the only shape shifters/infiltrators of the Marvel U. They aren't. If/when Skrull impersonators (bad guys) in the Marvel films are revealed they won't end up being characters the audience are particularly attached to. What works in comics doesn't really work on film most of the time (i.e. you won't be seeing Skrull Cap either)

 

[Poni_Boy]

Maybe I'm late to the game here, so excuse me if I am, but most people do realize that the Chi Taui ARE the Skrulls right? Same alien species. Just mentioning it because I see a lot of comments around the net from people thinking they are two separate ones.

 

[steintym]

Why do you not want "to believe" it's him... chances are, if someone is an infiltrator, it would be an established character that the GA have grown to trust.

He's probably the logical choice. I just like the character and don't want him to turn out to be a villain. Although ... Maybe that's a good reason for him to be a Skrull. It would definitely have an impact versus some random character.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Well... yeah lol

People have this penchant for thinking the Skrulls are the only shape shifters/infiltrators of the Marvel U. They aren't. If/when Skrull impersonators (bad guys) in the Marvel films are revealed they won't end up being characters the audience are particularly attached to. What works in comics doesn't really work on film most of the time (i.e. you won't be seeing Skrull Cap either)

umm can you name a few? Kree... nope, Shi'ar... nope, inhumans... nope, brood... nope.. they're more "invasion of the body snatchers", the Badoon... nope, the watchers... nope, the celestials... powers very.. but would have little need to infiltrate earth, the beyonders... well technically "the beyonder" was a self aware cosmic cube and could do anything, Dire Wraith's can shape shift... but are not humanoid, the phalanx have shape shifting ability... but not in the "mystique" type of way.. more like morphing hands into weapons, Rigellians.. nope, Symbiotes... only with hosts (but are owned by sony), Technarchy... nope, Spacephantom.. yes.

the bold are the only ones that have shape shifting abilities... but half are probably owned by other studios (Symbiotes, Phalanx, and Technarchy) and other than the beyonder... none of the other's really make any sense.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Maybe I'm late to the game here, so excuse me if I am, but most people do realize that the Chi Taui ARE the Skrulls right? Same alien species. Just mentioning it because I see a lot of comments around the net from people thinking they are two separate ones.

except for the fact that they look nothing like the skrulls of the 616 MU ... and are "off shoots" of the skrull race
http://marvel.wikia.com/Chitauri
http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/Chitauri

 

[Rock Sexton]

Well... yeah lol

People have this penchant for thinking the Skrulls are the only shape shifters/infiltrators of the Marvel U. They aren't. If/when Skrull impersonators (bad guys) in the Marvel films are revealed they won't end up being characters the audience are particularly attached to. What works in comics doesn't really work on film most of the time (i.e. you won't be seeing Skrull Cap either)

I hated the idea from the get-go that we could ever see Skrulls changing into the heroes. I didn't want to see them fighting themselves.

 

[Poni_Boy]

except for the fact that they look nothing like the skrulls of the 616 MU ... and are "off shoots" of the skrull race
http://marvel.wikia.com/Chitauri
http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/Chitauri

But they ARE the exact same species. By definition, they are the same regardless of aesthetics. 616 Hawkeye looks very different from mainstream Hawkeye, doesn't mean they are two separate characters

 

[spideyboy_1111]

But they ARE the exact same species. By definition, they are the same regardless of aesthetics. 616 Hawkeye looks very different from mainstream Hawkeye, doesn't mean they are two separate characters

that's the dumbest argument i've ever heard of... hell even the link i gave you says that their different. But may have a relation to the 616 version. Point is.. NO ONE WANTS THEM.. BECAUSE THEY SUCK

 

[Poni_Boy]

umm can you name a few? Kree... nope, Shi'ar... nope, inhumans... nope, brood... nope.. they're more "invasion of the body snatchers", the Badoon... nope, the watchers... nope, the celestials... powers very.. but would have little need to infiltrate earth, the beyonders... well technically "the beyonder" was a self aware cosmic cube and could do anything, Dire Wraith's can shape shift... but are not humanoid, the phalanx have shape shifting ability... but not in the "mystique" type of way.. more like morphing hands into weapons, Rigellians.. nope, Symbiotes... only with hosts (but are owned by sony), Technarchy... nope, Spacephantom.. yes.

the bold are the only ones that have shape shifting abilities... but half are probably owned by other studios (Symbiotes, Phalanx, and Technarchy) and other than the beyonder... none of the other's really make any sense.

The Skrulls are only the most famous ones. Rigellians, Kree, Attilians and Atlanteans have all been known to change their form or project an illusion of change in battles with humans.

 

[Poni_Boy]

that's the dumbest argument i've ever heard of... hell even the link i gave you says that their different. But may have a relation to the 616 version. Point is.. NO ONE WANTS THEM.. BECAUSE THEY SUCK

See, now you're confused. It's canon that the Skrulls are simply the Ultimate version of the Skrulls. Even in the Ultimate comics they confirmed that the Chi Tauri are known by many different names, one of the being Skrulls.

And the statements "no one wants them" and "they suck" are only your opinion so don't try to project that onto the entire fanbase. Plenty of people would love to see a Skrull infiltration as long as it's done properly and not just a standard issue alien invasion plot.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

The Skrulls are only the most famous ones. Rigellians, Kree, Attilians and Atlanteans have all been known to change their form or project an illusion of change in battles with humans.

Atlantean's are not Aliens.... invaders... sure. Aliens, no. Kree can use technology to change appearance, but are not shapeshifters.