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[steintym]

Interesting response from Hiddleson. I hope that means we're getting Skrulls.

 

[Rock Sexton]

With the announcement that Avatar II will be about the ocean (and i'm assuming a race of ocean dwelling Avatars) then we are about to see it done VERY well, at least visually.

It could set a precedent for it and show Marvel that it can be done well, or it could just make a Namor movie look like a copycat movie to the GA.

Either way i'm guessing it will have already been done in spectacular fashion before Marvel gets around to it.

Personally, I don't think Marvel would put enough money into an ocean odyssey like Namor would need in order to make it look good. Cameron on the other hand .... no doubt he'll get a ton of bucks to do Avatar 2.

 

[marcvader]

That project is right up Cameron's alley.

 

[Sebastos]

I look forward to more Avatar.

 

[Kane52630]

Namor is just a poor man's Aquaman, plain and simple.

 

[Son of Coul]

I hope James Cameron doesn't get anywhere near Marvel.

 

[Sebastos]

Namor is just a poor man's Aquaman, plain and simple.

Namor is the first mutant and came before. So the wannabe is Aquaman.

 

[The Morningstar]

Namor and Aquaman are both awesome, in different ways. The similarities are only on the surface.

 

[Flint Marko]

I'm gonna share something I've been thinking about for a while. I'm probably gonna ramble on for a bit but bear with me here: This movie comes out on May 4th, 2012. I dont know if some of you remember this but May 4th 2007 was when another huge Marvel blockbuster came out: Spider-man 3.
When that film came out, I was 14, in the 9th grade, and excited beyond belief. I thought Spider-man 3 was going to be the movie to end all movies. I had a countdown on my facebook, talked about it all the time, and was so freaking disappointed at the midnight premiere it was unreal.
Now I'm a 19 year old sophomore in college and I feel the exact same way about the Avengers. I promised myself I wasn't going to get invested in a movie that much ever again and risk being that disappointed, but not only can I not help it, I genuinely believe that Marvel studios is going to knock it out of the park. They've done such a fantastic job so far that I see almost no way for me to be let down.
So yeah, I guess what I'm saying is that I find it kind of interesting these two movies share the same release date and I'm happy that May 4th will now be a day of triumph instead of disappointment t:

 

[steintym]

This is one of those movies I just can't imagine being a disappointment. There have been others for me, though ... Spidey 3, Superman Returns, Ang Lee's Hulk.

I can't see it happening with the Avengers, but anything is possible. I hope they knock it out of the park.

 

[The Infernal]

He didn't say that specifically.

The interviewer just asked him if the reveal would please the fans, long-time readers. Hiddie just grinned and nodded. Doesn't necessarily mean it would be someone they're familiar with at all; just that they'll be pleased.

I'm gonna harp on this ol' dead horse again, because Hiddleston keeps bringing it up: "EIGHT superheroes." He's said it time and again in interviews, this being the latest. I strongly doubt that Tom just can't count; and even if he's got some cockeyed ideas of who, exactly, constitutes a hero, it still doesn't add up to eight.

Just the traditional Marvel supes:
1. Cap
2. Thor
3. IM
4. Hulk
5. Black Widow
6. Hawkeye
7. Nick Fury

Marvel heroes, plus SHIELD backup:
1. Cap
2. Thor
3. IM
4. Hulk
5. Black Widow
6. Hawkeye
7. Nick Fury
8. Maria Hill
9. Son of Coul

Either way, 7 < 8 < 9.
what mean "eight" sir

Well I did hear that Coulson has to 'step up' in this movie, which to my mind means he at least sees some action. I can't help but think that Hill will mostly be the admin side of SHIELD.

 

[marcvader]

The superhero movies that have really dissipointed me:

Spiderman 3
Xmen: The Last Stand
Superman Returns
Batman Forever
Ghost Rider

 

[Splat]

This is one of those movies I just can't imagine being a disappointment. There have been others for me, though ... Spidey 3, Superman Returns, Ang Lee's Hulk.

I can't see it happening with the Avengers, but anything I'd possible. I hope they knock it out of the park.

Agreed, I've really enjoyed all 5 MCU movies, some more then others of course, so I'm pretty confident that the Avengers will at the very least be watchable.

(GL I'm looking at you. )

 

[The Infernal]

I think most of us found them a let down, but for me Batman & Robin trumps that. The 90's Captain America was pretty bad too.

 

[marcvader]

I think most of us found them a let down, but for me Batman & Robin trumps that. The 90's Captain America was pretty bad too.

It was bad, very bad, but I had no expectations for some of the movies therefor not such a big let down.

 

[D'Evils]

Interesting response from Hiddleson. I hope that means we're getting Skrulls.

Hopefully something with acting charisma, precense ... or something that is actually visually enticing or threatning.

Cause Hiddleson as Loki isn't going to get that job down, as evident from the movie Thor.

I couldn't think of a more un-assuming, non-threatning, and basically down right boring villian in a comic book movie film.

 

[The Morningstar]

You just have bad taste. Loki was a great character in Thor. Note that i didn't say villain. The Thor movie was as much Loki's origin into becoming a villain as it was Thor's becoming a hero.

 

[D'Evils]

Agreed, I've really enjoyed all 5 MCU movies, some more then others of course, so I'm pretty confident that the Avengers will at the very least be watchable.

They are all watchable, but 4 out of the 5 MCU films have been average at very best. They don't take any big risks, they don't get any big rewards. It's a trade off. They hit for average, instead of going for the home run. Which in art form comes across as very vanilla. I can at least respect failure like Ang Lee's Hulk, etc because they took risks for what they considered an interesting vision.

These MCU films, post Iron Man, have all played it safe, banking on delivering to the most amount of people as possible ... all essentially being advertisements for some big join up film which we will get next summer.

I imagine Avengers will make a good profit, we'll see if it is even remotely decent in terms of quality. Because if they were focusing on this film for 4 other movies, it would be one massive failure to build all this tension and excitement for one movie only to fail miserebly.

 

[D'Evils]

You just have bad taste.

No, just probably more refined taste. Maybe. Or just different. Whatever you want to call it.

Either way Hiddleson's performance came off very flat regardless to me. I didn't think as a film there was anything to gush about in "Thor" ... all very average.

Or maybe it's just that the character of Loki is inherently kind of boring. Or maybe it was how he was written in the script. Or most likely a combonation of all those things.

As an antagonist he was just very weak. Especially when you consider all the great actors in cinematic performances as comic book villians over the years. He's needs to go H.A.M. in "Avengers" to make the character interesting for me, and not a snooze fest the way he was in "Thor."

 

[steintym]

It was bad, very bad, but I had no expectations for some of the movies therefor not such a big let down.

Exactly. Some movies weren't huge disappointments because I wasn't expecting a lot. Something like Batman and Robin, for example.

Due to my level of anticipation, if this is bad, it will be a huge disappointment.

 

[marcvader]

Ahh, and it begins. Our daily dose. I thought it was too quiet around here.

 

[Sebastos]

Hopefully something with acting charisma, precense ... or something that is actually visually enticing or threatning.

Cause Hiddleson as Loki isn't going to get that job down, as evident from the movie Thor.

I couldn't think of a more un-assuming, non-threatning, and basically down right boring villian in a comic book movie film.

Welcome to the Hype, I disagree.

 

[steintym]

Wow, I really disagree with that about Loki. He has probably been my favorite villian so far from the Marvel movies. I thought the character was great in Thor.

 

[Crimson King]

They are all watchable, but 4 out of the 5 MCU films have been average at very best. They don't take any big risks, they don't get any big rewards. It's a trade off. They hit for average, instead of going for the home run. Which in art form comes across as very vanilla. I can at least respect failure like Ang Lee's Hulk, etc because they took risks for what they considered an interesting vision.

These MCU films, post Iron Man, have all played it safe, banking on delivering to the most amount of people as possible ... all essentially being advertisements for some big join up film which we will get next summer.

I imagine Avengers will make a good profit, we'll see if it is even remotely decent in terms of quality. Because if they were focusing on this film for 4 other movies, it would be one massive failure to build all this tension and excitement for one movie only to fail miserebly.

I think I know someone here who will want to be your friend.

Anyway, I disagree with you. Simply because an Avengers reference was made in each movie doesn't mean that it was the focus. There isn't a single MCU movie that can't stand on its own outside of the Avengers arc.

 

[D'Evils]

Wow, I really disagree with that about Loki. He has probably been my favorite villian so far from the Marvel movies. I thought the character was great in Thor.

You thought the Loki character was more interesting and threatning and Hiddleson's performance was better than

Jeff Bridge's Obidiah Stane?
Mickey Rourke's Ivan Vanko?
Alfred Molina's Doctor Ock?
Brian Cox's William Stryker?
Ian McKellan's Magneto?
Nick Nolte's David Banner?
Sam Hurt's Thunderbolt Ross?
Hugo Weaving's Red Skull?

Well, different strokes I guess.