The Avengers The Avengers: News and Speculation - Part 27A sub-se - - - - - - Part 33

[Herolee10]

Odin he could do it with a snap of his fingers...

Doubt it; since if that was the case then Thor would have been back on Earth ages ago given the fact that the events of "The Avengers" take place 2 years after Thor.

 

[Xeno]

Well I probably will not be watching tdkr in theatre but it will not be because of annoying nolanites (as much as I despise them) but simply because I'm not a fan of nolanverse. I respect other people's right to like tdk but I didn't at all; I saw it once in theatre and considered it a waste of my money. I haven't seen anything in tdkr to change my mind about the franchise or raise my ineterest.

So I guess by default I'm supporting your cause.

Same here. Next summer will be packed with movies that I want to see, so I'll spend my time and money on them and not the batfilm. 2012 is shaping up to be one of those years in which there are great films to watch all the way through. A visit to the Nolanverse just isn't in the cards for me when there are so many, far more interesting places to go.

 

[Godzilla2000]

Doubt it; since if that was the case then Thor would have been back on Earth ages ago given the fact that the events of "The Avengers" take place 2 years after Thor.

Yeah, I have to agree. It takes awhile to harness enough Nyan Cats to power the Bifrost.

 

[darkslayer101]

The full description at the voldemort site is better!

link please?

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

link please?

the site is forbidden to be linked to on SHH.

 

[The Infernal]

Just curious, but do you guys think that 2 years is enough time for Asgardians to rebuild the Bi-Frost bridge?

It would seem long enough to me. They are supposed to be quite an advanced race/sorta magical. I think for things like that as long as they show in the story how it was remade (not literally) or how Thor managed to get to earth convincingly within the in story logic then I don't think it's necessary to state how long it took. At least not explicitly.

 

[captainrogers]

thats the most obsurd reason to not pay to see a movie..every franchise has its fanboys and annoying morons on every forum but at the end of the day i will pay to see both the avengers and TDKR when they are released..no marvel or dc fanboy or troll will make me feel bitter towards a film...personally i'm looking forward to TDKR more but that doesnt mean i too want the avengers to fall flat on its ass...dont let a few morons judge your mentality on one film because believe me the marvel trolls havent ruined anything for me when it comes to the avengers

GOOD.
THIS.
I TOO will be paying to see both films as they both have earned my interest, and will be there opening night for BOTH.
They each have their strengths and merits.
If a person has no interest in seeing either of these, (or other coming CBMs or movies in general) I do not begrudge them not seeing it, but to NOT PAY(watch via 'shady' means) to see a film you actually have an intrest in seeing (whether you can admit it or not) is just...not cool in my book.
The better of the two films, or both (if equally appealing) will be getting repeat business from me.

 

[Godsfireworks]

Well said.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Speculating on the villains for a second:
http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/10/17/nycc-feige-on-marvels-future
In the ^ video ^ Kevin says the villains not only reference movies they've made, but movies they're gonna make. What could that mean?

 

[BigThor]

This Hulk is not as nice as the Comic Con one, I hope they have not down graded that Incredible version for this [but it is better than the last two Hulk movies].

He looks much better in that pic than he did in the the comic-con panel imo, that version of him looked like an old man.

 

[The Morningstar]

i wouldnt say it effortlessly overshadows anything...the avengers has its hype and its well deserved but when i went to go see MI4 at midnight..some people only went for the prologue and then got a refund as soon as it finished...TDKR is the most anticipated film...not saying it will be the better film but its clearly not being overshadowed

Those people are pathetic. That's why people hate these fanatical Nolanites. They are exactly the same as the Twilight fans. EXACTLY.

Mission Impossible 4 was awesome. To pay for a ticket to that, then not watch it is the dumbest thing i've ever heard.

 

[Godsfireworks]

Let's stop going down this road again for the love of all things sacred...

 

[Godzilla2000]

From here on out I'm going to ignore any non-Avengers conversations. I suggest the rest of you do the same. Don't feed the Nolanite Trolls.

Anyways, as far as villains go we know that Loki will be one of them and he'll be responsible for bringing the others into the fray. I'm more than willing to keep it all a surprise, but given my lack of Avengers knowledge I still might not get why the other villains are making fanboys/girls foam at the mouth.

 

[Herolee10]

From here on out I'm going to ignore any non-Avengers conversations. I suggest the rest of you do the same.

Anyways, as far as villains go we know that Loki will be one of them and he'll be responsible for bringing the others into the fray. I'm more than willing to keep it all a surprise, but given my lack of Avengers knowledge I still might not get why the other villains are making fanboys/girls foam at the mouth.

I just hope that the armies that Loki bring have some..distinctive personalities of their own and that they're not just presented as mindless beasts that were easily convinced by Loki to help him take over Earth.

I want to see this army has terrifying and devastating...especially since I'm one to believe that a hero's triumph in the end is only magnified by how big the threat was that he/they stopped.

 

[Godzilla2000]

I just hope that the armies that Loki bring have some..distinctive personalities of their own and that they're not just presented as mindless beasts that were easily convinced by Loki to help him take over Earth.

I want to see this army has terrifying and devastating...especially since I'm one to believe that a hero's triumph in the end is only magnified by how big the threat was that he/they stopped.

Hmmm...if some mentions from the cast are to be trusted, this army would pose such a threat that it would cause even Loki to have to side with the Good guys, so for Loki to do something like that they must be pretty kickass.

 

[Herolee10]

Hmmm...if some mentions from the cast are to be trusted, this army would pose such a threat that it would cause even Loki to have to side with the Good guys, so for Loki to do something like that they must be pretty kickass.

Well I do remember Tom saying that the whole process for Loki was like going into the deepest and most blackest parts of the universe and making very shady deals with them; heck I think he also compared it to like going into the inner dwellings of hell itself when recruiting these creatures.

Whoever these creatures are, I'm pretty confident that they're at least very deadly in nature.

What I'm wondering is how large Loki's army is..I mean is it a Armada like the Alien Invading films that we've seen? Or is it just a dozen troops?

Another thing that I did like hearing was that Feige was reported to have said that the Avengers film is like a "disaster" film in terms of its scope. the bigger the better I'd say.

 

[Axl Van Sixx]

GOOD.
THIS.
I TOO will be paying to see both films as they both have earned my interest, and will be there opening night for BOTH.
They each have their strengths and merits.
If a person has no interest in seeing either of these, (or other coming CBMs or movies in general) I do not begrudge them not seeing it, but to NOT PAY(watch via 'shady' means) to see a film you actually have an intrest in seeing (whether you can admit it or not) is just...not cool in my book.
The better of the two films, or both (if equally appealing) will be getting repeat business from me.

I don't understand these Nolan fanatics. Why wouldn't fans of superheroes and comic book movies be thrilled to see both movies coming out?

The more superhero movies (up to a certain point), the better. I just feel fortunate that I'm living in a time when all my favourite superheroes are getting respectful, big budget treatments on the silver screen. I still remember an issue of Wizard magazine from 12 years ago (or maybe it was Cinescape) with an article on "Ten Movies You'll Never See", and #1 was a Spider-Man movie, which they imagined starring Leonardo diCaprio and Kate Winslet and proclaimed it would never escape development hell.

Now it's 2012 and, having seen high-quality adaptations of Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Captain America, they're putting all of them together in an Avengers movie?? Sometimes I have to pinch myself. It's just so cool that all this is happening. We're living in a veritable golden age for cinema-loving geeks.

You know, I sincerely hope that the third Batman movie in Nolan's trilogy is a masterpiece. But if it isn't, and all the annoying fanboys who currently worship Nolan as a god who can do no wrong suddenly turn on him (like they did with Sam Raimi after Spider-Man 3), I'm going to have a long, hearty laugh at how easily their loyalties shift.

 

[Godzilla2000]

Another thing that I did like hearing was that Feige was reported to have said that the Avengers film is like a "disaster" film in terms of its scope. the bigger the better I'd say.

I think if anything Joss Whedon does well, it's bringing a sense of catastrophic urgency to the antagonistic threats he utilizes. I'm sure anything that gets Tom Hiddleston excited is going to be pretty crowd pleasing. Of what I've seen of the Avengers movie I'm liking it so far.

Well, I thought I'd cut and paste this from another thread to this more appropriate one:

I know you guys like your boobies and butts, but historically solo female superhero movies don't fare very well in the cinemas, so a Black Widow solo franchise might not work very well unless they get an exceptionally crack team of writers who can treat the character seriously and not turn her into a walking sexpot cliche but also not turn her into a character that is too aggressive. Seriously, we don't need anymore Catwomans. As far as Hawkeye goes, yes, Jeremy Renner is a very talented, likable actor, but character wise there's not much you can do with the character solo and maintain the interest of the none too faithful Average Joe/Jill going to see a movie. Yes, you can try to make solo movies for these characters but realistically their main chance for exposure lies in these Avengers movies.

I think a good narrative to explore in future Avenger movies, if Joss Whedon doesn't already explore it in this one, is that both Widow and Hawkeye would probably feel a bit like outsiders in the group in that they, aside from their exceptional skills in hand to hand combat and archery respectively are not as special compared to the rest of the group. Basically, aside from Nick and SHIELD they're just humans with no super powers. I mean how can they, as a frail, average human beings pull their own weight alongside a super soldier, a big green rage machine, a man possessing a suit of armor that gives him extraordinary abilities, and a Norse God?

 

[Herolee10]

I wonder if this film will actually go back into the darker territory that Iron Man 1 had shown when it comes to displaying innocent bystanders being killed in the crossfire or attack from the antagonistic enemy. Ever since then, all we've really see in the other MCU films is just really bystanders running around in horror as chaos ensues but never showing any of the devastation in the losses and that it's only been security guards or military folks who were killed as a result.

 

[Arcam]

We're nearly into January and I think the time will fly by from now on until the movie comes out on the 27th April here in the UK and 4th May in the States.
I'm going to have my first chance see it on 1st May, I'm going around midday so if it's as good as I hope, I'll have time to join the ticket queue when I get back into the foyer and pay for my second viewing.

Does anyone else know when they'll be seeing it for the 1st time?

 

[Rongxin]

If I have yet to be enlisted by then, I'll see it on release day

 

[Herolee10]

If the reviews are especially great, then I plan on seeing it opening night.

 

[mc7791]

Well I do remember Tom saying that the whole process for Loki was like going into the deepest and most blackest parts of the universe and making very shady deals with them; heck I think he also compared it to like going into the inner dwellings of hell itself when recruiting these creatures.

Whoever these creatures are, I'm pretty confident that they're at least very deadly in nature.

What I'm wondering is how large Loki's army is..I mean is it a Armada like the Alien Invading films that we've seen? Or is it just a dozen troops?

Another thing that I did like hearing was that Feige was reported to have said that the Avengers film is like a "disaster" film in terms of its scope. the bigger the better I'd say.

I hope all that is true and that we see destruction on a world wide scale. Otherwise the Avengers are just trying to save one city? Why bring all these heroes together for just that? I hope Lokis army is huge and somewhat diverse. Not all the same shock troops. There has to be a real sense of urgency where the whole world is threatened. Should there be a substantial world wide body count?

 

[Lord]

I hope they're not called to fight just Loki, i hope there's somebody alongside Loki, i hope Thanos

 

[Herolee10]

I hope all that is true and that we see destruction on a world wide scale. Otherwise the Avengers are just trying to save one city? Why bring all these heroes together for just that? I hope Lokis army is huge and somewhat diverse. Not all the same shock troops. There has to be a real sense of urgency where the whole world is threatened. Should there be a substantial world wide body count?

Agreed; I'd hate to think if all of his soldiers were all identical in looking since I'm expecting his armada to be made up of many species since Tom said that Loki didn't just go to one part of the universe to recruit.

I'd say that in terms of destruction level, they should at least try to reach TF3 in scale and that everyone in the world should be shown at risk instead of it just being said or implied.

I hope they're not called to fight just Loki, i hope there's somebody alongside Loki, i hope Thanos

Unfortunately, I think Thanos is way to big of a character to be thrown in this; he wouldn't be given any justice in terms of character development and I think that he'd be too strong for the Avengers to face on their first bout as a team.