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[ThePowerCosmic]

Are her legs trapped under something?

I think so.

The pipes behind her also look like they've collapsed onto her legs, perhaps from damage done by the Hulk. He was seen lifting up a pipe in his Hulk out after all.

 

[cherokeesam]

I actually suspect that this shot:


...might be from Widow's POV on the floor in that .gif. Because she's witnessing him hulking out, and - especially if it's the first time she's seen it - it would be F***ING TERRIFYING. Just like her face indicates.

Plus, she's probably on the floor because of whatever caused all that destruction around Banner ([blackout]Hawkey/Loki destruction?[/blackout]). He obviously hasn't hulked out just yet, and already there are fallen pipes/debris all around.

Which all points back to my theory that Hulk is *protecting* Widow instead of chasing her. The damage is already done, and it's not by Banner/Hulk. Widow is injured; Banner might be, too. Widow is shocked that Hawkeye betrayed her, but she doesn't want Banner to Hulk out and kill "puny bow-man," so she pleads with him to stop.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Yeah those same kind of pipes that are around Bruce

Yeah exactly.

 

[Chewy]

Widow looks like she's sweating in the .gif, as if she just got done running. She also isn't directly focusing on something with her eyes, and if Banner were Hulking out I don't think she'd look away. It looks like she's reflecting on something that just happened.

Her eyes look like they're moving around a bit but focusing on the same area. Almost like she's taking in a quite large monster for the first time

 

[Quasimod0]

Maybe he hulks out and frees her? Doesnt look like widow is leading hulk anywhere. She's shielding her face

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Her eyes look like they're moving around a bit but focusing on the same area. Almost like she's taking in a quite large monster for the first time

Probably as he leaves the area, but I doubt it's before the transformation.

 

[cherokeesam]

Maybe he hulks out and frees her? Doesnt look like widow is leading hulk anywhere. She's shielding her face

....Maybe because she's....blind?

I'll be honest with you....the look on Scarjo's face looks like someone not just in literal shock, but *physical* shock. Her eyes are wandering, in a panic, like hysterical blindness. Possibly a spell that Loki threw at her to blind her.

 

[DyeLorean]

We should be detectives.

 

[flickchick85]

Widow looks like she's sweating in the .gif, as if she just got done running. She also isn't directly focusing on something with her eyes, and if Banner were Hulking out I don't think she'd look away. It looks like she's reflecting on something that just happened.

If the whole [blackout]Hawkeye/Loki thing just went down[/blackout], she'd still be reeling from that - but her leg is trapped under a pipe. And she's stuck there with Banner who is losing his calm. In those leaked pages from SLJ's script, [blackout]she's trying desperately to calm Banner down.[/blackout] She's freaking out in that .gif, not recovering from a scary experience, imo. I agree that it looks like something big did just go down, but it also looks like something horrible is ABOUT to happen as well.

And her eyes do look like they lock onto something in that .gif to me.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

....Maybe because she's....blind?

I'll be honest with you....the look on Scarjo's face looks like someone not just in literal shock, but *physical* shock. Her eyes are wandering, in a panic, like hysterical blindness. Possibly a spell that Loki threw at her to blind her.

Widow looks like she's terrified, surprised, and trying to get out of the Hulk's way to me.

 

[Quasimod0]

lol, i dont think she's blindly running around being chased by the hulk. She's shielding herself from the sparks of the machinery being destroyed

 

[Quasimod0]

If the whole [blackout]Hawkeye/Loki thing just went down[/blackout], she'd still be reeling from that - but her leg is trapped under a pipe. And she's stuck there with Banner who is losing his calm. In those leaked pages from SLJ's script, [blackout]she's trying desperately to calm Banner down.[/blackout] She's freaking out in that .gif, not recovering from a scary experience, imo. I agree that it looks like something big did just go down, but it also looks like something horrible is ABOUT to happen as well.

And her eyes do look like they lock onto something in that .gif to me.

She's probably stuck on the ground after some destruction from lokis escape. Which makes banner very upset, and shes stuck trying her best to calm him down in a last ditch effort. But it fails and he hulks out and the pipe holding her down is moved. She then runs for her life because shes stuck in a small space with a crazed monster

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

If the whole [blackout]Hawkeye/Loki thing just went down[/blackout], she'd still be reeling from that - but her leg is trapped under a pipe. And she's stuck there with Banner who is losing his calm. In those leaked pages from SLJ's script, [blackout]she's trying desperately to calm Banner down.[/blackout] She's freaking out in that .gif, not recovering from a scary experience, imo. I agree that it looks like something big did just go down, but it also looks like something horrible is ABOUT to happen as well.

And her eyes do look like they lock onto something in that .gif to me.

If it was just Hawkeye fighting Widow, I don't think he'd cause her to lose her cool like that. She's trained to fight people like him, but not someone like the Hulk. Even though it very well could've been Loki, she looks like she's in a state of fear and shock. It just looks like the Hulk's aftermath to me.

 

[cherokeesam]

If the whole [blackout]Hawkeye/Loki thing just went down[/blackout], she'd still be reeling from that - but her leg is trapped under a pipe. And she's stuck there with Banner who is losing his calm. In those leaked pages from SLJ's script, [blackout]she's trying desperately to calm Banner down.[/blackout] She's freaking out in that .gif, not recovering from a scary experience, imo. I agree that it looks like something big did just go down, but it also looks like something horrible is ABOUT to happen as well.

And her eyes do look like they lock onto something in that .gif to me.

Here's the thing.

We know there's an explosion in the....what did Mark Steiner of ET call it? The room where the Avengers all convene and do Avenger-y stuff. Scenes from an earlier trailer had people analyzing and studying the explosion, and they came to the conclusion that the explosion showed Banner and Black Widow getting blown out of the window.

So. Cut to a deck far below. Banner and Widow are trapped under a pile of pipes and debris they've crashed through. Loki and Hawkeye are escaping. Widow is shocked that Hawkeye betrayed her. Banner is pissed. Widow thinks: *this* can't be good. She doesn't want Hulk to go kill Hawkeye. If Hawkeye needs killing, she'll want to do it herself, but first she needs to ask him point blank: why did you do it? So naturally she begs Banner not to Hulk out. He does anyway. So now Widow runs off and tries to intercept Hawkeye before Hulk does. She *is* leading him....but she's actually racing him. To keep Hulk from smashing Hawkeye to teeny tiny bits.

 

[Quasimod0]

Thats possible cherokeesam, guess we wont really know until we get more info

 

[BigThor]

For reals. Seeing the big three actually treated like the big 3 in a huge huge budget movie is majestic.

Everyone knew that Cap showing up on the big screen was inevitable. But Thor and Tony had always been so restricted to comic book fans in terms of public awareness. Marvel has done maybe the best job possible in terms of turning them into pop culture icons.

I agree 100%, I was starting to have doubts about the "big three" being treated as such in this film but that definately went away when I saw that shot in the new trailer.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Avengers 2 Lineup:

Captain America
Thor
Ant Man
Wasp
Hawkeye
Black Widow
Ms Marvel

How is it? Missing 2 key personnel, add 3 more including 2 more females.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Avengers 2 Lineup:

Captain America
Thor
Ant Man
Wasp
Hawkeye
Black Widow
Ms Marvel

How is it? Missing 2 key personnel, add 3 more including 2 more females.

Black Panther would be great to have in the sequel.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Avengers 2 Lineup:

Captain America
Thor
Ant Man
Wasp
Hawkeye
Black Widow
Ms Marvel

How is it? Missing 2 key personnel, add 3 more including 2 more females.

Getting rid of Iron Man and Hulk in favor of Ant Man and Wasp won't sit well with the general audience. Iron Man will be in these movies for as long as possible imo.

 

[Quasimod0]

I do wish we could have the same lineup as EMH.
And thank God we're havin some great speculation now! Not just arguing

 

[chiefchirpa]

Black Panther would be great to have in the sequel.

Then Johansson will be cut off, because Widow and Panther share the same niche albeit Panther is more powerful.

Cap - Leader, tactician
Thor - Damage dealer, area of effect weapon
Ant Man - Scientist
Wasp - Jokester, common sense POV
Ms Marvel - Second damage dealer
Hawkeye - Sniper
Panther - Stealth, strategy

I can't deny that I like the team with Panther better

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Yeah those same kind of pipes that are around Bruce

Her facial expression indicates to me that she just saw something already and is trying to register what she just witnessed. Her eyes are clearly not locked on to anything, she seems to be staring into space wondering what the hell is going on.

 

[flickchick85]

She's probably stuck on the ground after some destruction from lokis escape. Which makes banner very upset, and shes stuck trying her best to calm him down in a last ditch effort. But it fails and he hulks out and the pipe holding her down is moved. She then runs for her life because shes stuck in a small space with a crazed monster

This is exactly what I'm suspecting at the moment.

 

[Xeno]

People realize that the few who argued that the above scene depicted one of the Leviathans were correct, right?

I was one of the few and I got shot down in flames. Dragon flames.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

I do wish we could have the same lineup as EMH.
And thank God we're havin some great speculation now! Not just arguing

I was just about to post this same thing, we're actually speculating!!! I've had enough of people nitpicking and talking about the same stuff over and over, it's so fun to speculate.