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[chiefchirpa]

Getting rid of Iron Man and Hulk in favor of Ant Man and Wasp won't sit well with the general audience. Iron Man will be in these movies for as long as possible imo.

Avengers will need to hold up without Iron Man and Hulk. Ideally the Avengers should have rotating rosters where the team is more important than each member. In reality RDJ may want to step down after IM3 or Marvel will need to pay up a heftier new contract. Hulk lives on TV.

That's been said, I think you're right losing IM and Hulk will be a big loss. But to me the addition of Ant Man and Ms Marvel present a dynamic better than the loss.

 

[BigThor]

Catching up on a few topics I've missed, I don't really want The Rock playing ANY Marvel character because him being "The Rock" would overshadow the actual character since people would still look at him as The Rock.

I think he would be a much better fit for Namor than Cage, also I've wondered what race The Rock was for a long time and I don't think you should have to wonder what race Luke Cage is.

 

[Quasimod0]

I cant unsee the hulk in the dragonfire pic now.
And am I the only one who wants to see hulk speak in the 3rd person in this film? lol. I dont think he ever did in TIH besides " Hulk smash "

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Then Johansson will be cut off, because Widow and Panther share the same niche albeit Panther is more powerful.

Cap - Leader, tactician
Thor - Damage dealer, area of effect weapon
Ant Man - Scientist
Wasp - Jokester, common sense POV
Ms Marvel - Second damage dealer
Hawkeye - Sniper
Panther - Stealth, strategy

I can't deny that I like the team with Panther better

He's also a genius and a King with the resources of a vast empire at his disposal, so that's also a plus! Widow can be off doing a mission for SHIELD or something.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Catching up on a few topics I've missed, I don't really want The Rock playing ANY Marvel character because him being "The Rock" would overshadow the actual character since people would still look at him as The Rock.

I think he would be a much better fit for Namor than Cage, also I've wondered what race The Rock was for a long time and I don't think you should have to wonder what race Luke Cage is.

The requirement of acting as Cage is a bit more loose than being Namor. Namor has to act like a snobbish, cruel regent (when in fact he's not) and thus might require a better actor to perform than the Rock.

As who should play Namor. My view about 7 years ago Jason Isaacs is perfect in mannerism although he needs to amp up his physique. Now I'm not familiar with younger British actors. I'm more confident of British actors to do Namor because of the acting requirement.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I wonder if Nick Fury's manipulative side is going to come out in this movie? It hasn't really been seen thus far.

 

[Raiden]

Avengers will need to hold up without Iron Man and Hulk. Ideally the Avengers should have rotating rosters where the team is more important than each member. In reality RDJ may want to step down after IM3 or Marvel will need to pay up a heftier new contract. Hulk lives on TV.

That's been said, I think you're right losing IM and Hulk will be a big loss. But to me the addition of Ant Man and Ms Marvel present a dynamic better than the loss.

If RDJ won't return after IM3, then maybe they can get Cheadle to reprise his role as Rhodes and War Machine in TA2.

 

[BigThor]

The requirement of acting as Cage is a bit more loose than being Namor. Namor has to act like a snobbish, cruel regent (when in fact he's not) and thus might require a better actor to perform than the Rock.

As who should play Namor. My view about 7 years ago Jason Isaacs is perfect in mannerism although he needs to amp up his physique. Now I'm not familiar with younger British actors. I'm more confident of British actors to do Namor because of the acting requirement.

I didn't say I want to see The Rock play Namor, I just said he'll be a better fit for the role than Luke Cage and I was basing it on looks.

Like I said first and foremost, I don't really want to see The Rock play any Marvel character because him being The Rock would overshadow the actual character,

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

If RDJ won't return after IM3, then maybe they can get Cheadle to reprise his role as Rhodes and War Machine in TA2.

Of course he's returning after Iron Man 3. Didn't Kevin Feige say that Iron Man 3 is the first movie of phase 2 culminating into Avengers 2???

 

[liveman789]

Guys don't worry Downey will 99.99% chance likely be back for Avengers 2. That'd be ridiculous if he didn't. He's the money maker.

On a side note, I'm gonna make a video now trying to connect all the footage we've gotten so far, because I think I may have figured some of it out. It'll be posted later.

 

[BigThor]

I can't speak enough on how much I want Ultron to be the main villain in Avengers 2 so hopefully Ant Man's solo film is released before hand.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

I can't speak enough on how much I want Ultron to be the main villain in Avengers 2 so hopefully Ant Man's solo film is released before hand.

But to go from an army to Ultron might be a little underwhelming no? Hopefully there's at least one other villain.

 

[Chewy]

I can't put in words how much I don't want to see an Avengers 2 without Iron Man

A good sequel line-up to me would be

Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Hulk
Black Widow
Hawkeye
Ms Marvel

I don't really care for the Hulk to return but you just know he would...

 

[irapogi]

I'd also love black panther in an avengers sequel (after his own movie of course)

since we speculated hank and jan earlier,
I wanna share my support for PETER MENSAH as T'Challa.

I don't care that he was already in TIH cos that was a minor role and all he did was introduce blonsky.

Black Panther was so OP in EMH. haha

 

[irapogi]

I can't speak enough on how much I want Ultron to be the main villain in Avengers 2 so hopefully Ant Man's solo film is released before hand.

Ultron's too epic imo. I'd like an army of ultrons to be used as support to the avengers in part 2.
Then he can turn towards the end for part 3 maybe?

 

[Nightwing 52]

Man, would I LOOOOVE to see a Great Black Panther movie.
As far as Individual Character films go, his is the movie I always looked foward to after Cap.

BP has the characters, story and villains to carry him through a trilogy. Not to mention the obvious connection of Vibranium. I still want to see a flashback scene of Cap fighting T'Challa's grandfather.

He's also a genius and a King with the resources of a vast empire at his disposal, so that's also a plus! Widow can be off doing a mission for SHIELD or something.

This.

 

[Nightwing 52]

I'd also love black panther in an avengers sequel (after his own movie of course)

since we speculated hank and jan earlier,
I wanna share my support for PETER MENSAH as T'Challa.

I don't care that he was already in TIH cos that was a minor role and all he did was introduce blonsky.

Black Panther was so OP in EMH. haha

Aldis Hodge still remains my top choice. Already he's well known due to Leverage but also he's young if they do a trilogy and display T'Challa's growth into the role of king.

And yeah BP's awesome on EMH. Owned the entire team. I liked how he took down Hank with pressure points.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

I'd also love black panther in an avengers sequel (after his own movie of course)

since we speculated hank and jan earlier,
I wanna share my support for PETER MENSAH as T'Challa.

I don't care that he was already in TIH cos that was a minor role and all he did was introduce blonsky.

Black Panther was so OP in EMH. haha

Too old, he could play t'chaka though.

 

[BigThor]

But to go from an army to Ultron might be a little underwhelming no? Hopefully there's at least one other villain.

No it wouldn't, because Ultron is able to hack into every computer system in the world, meaning he could turn the entire world against itself.

Ultron's too epic imo. I'd like an army of ultrons to be used as support to the avengers in part 2.
Then he can turn towards the end for part 3 maybe?

Nah I don't really care about seeing the army of Ultron's used as support and I think Ultron would be best suited for Avengers 2 with Thanos or Kang being the villains Avengers 3

 

[Praxis222]

I'd also love black panther in an avengers sequel (after his own movie of course)

since we speculated hank and jan earlier,
I wanna share my support for PETER MENSAH as T'Challa.

I don't care that he was already in TIH cos that was a minor role and all he did was introduce blonsky.

Black Panther was so OP in EMH. haha

I actually really like the idea of Djimon Hounsou for Black Panther. He's got that intensity and vulnerability of a jungle cat protecting it's cubs, plus the eloquence and intelligence.

 

[Chewy]

Hounsou is too old. T'Challa should be in his 20s.

Aldis Hodge still remains my top choice. Already he's well known due to Leverage but also he's young if they do a trilogy and display T'Challa's growth into the role of king.

This is an interesting suggestion.

 

[Nightwing 52]

Hounsou can be T'Chaka or S'Yan.

 

[BigThor]

I can't put in words how much I don't want to see an Avengers 2 without Iron Man

A good sequel line-up to me would be

Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Hulk
Black Widow
Hawkeye
Ms Marvel

I don't really care for the Hulk to return but you just know he would...

This is a great roster, but I don't know if I'd leave out Giant Man and Wasp since I want Ultron as the villain in Avengers 2.

Of course that's just my opinion though.

Hounsou is too old. T'Challa should be in his 20s.

Agreed, I was just about to say the same thing.

 

[Xeno]

Guys don't worry Downey will 99.99% chance likely be back for Avengers 2. That'd be ridiculous if he didn't. He's the money maker.

On a side note, I'm gonna make a video now trying to connect all the footage we've gotten so far, because I think I may have figured some of it out. It'll be posted later.

Robert Downey Jr. has a six picture deal with Marvel. He did the cameo in TIH as a courtesy to the studio, so that doesn't count against his total. The other three movies after The Avengers will be IM3 and TA 2&3, in all likelihood.

 

[Praxis222]

Hounsou is too old. T'Challa should be in his 20s.

Wow...Just looked up his age, I had no idea he was 48. He doesn't look it.