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[Rock Sexton]

Dude, come one. That's pretty much completely uncalled for. All anyone on this board does is talk about what they want out of this movie. Why would I, or you, or AB be any different? All the things he listed were actually completely valid requests and not at all off the wall.

This is a board completely full of Avengers fans and you're asking them to stop analyzing the movie they're raving about? Why? That's all there is to do! It's pretty much the sole reason anyone comes here in the first place.

AB, you are some kind of wizard, because no matter what you say it has the innate ability to bring the absolute worst out of some of these people. I'm literally astounded.

I mean really look at your response to his comment Rock. Did anything he say in that post really warrant that kind of reaction from you? Anything at all? Because all I saw were a couple of hopeful requests for a science-fiction movie, and all completely sensible at that. I just can't make sense of it.

Some posters sole purpose in life is to post for attention (whether negative or positive) .... you fail to recognize this. AB posts because he likes to incite arguments. He has the contrarian opinion 99% of the time.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Tony's drink problems and overall nihilistic, self destructive mentality was done well in IM2. One of the only things done well.

It was all there for us to see, we don't need to be told about it. Show, don't tell.

You can't have a movie (which is also heavily aimed at children) contain a protagonist who's a complete drunk. They could only try to approach it subtly.

 

[Guerrilla]

You can't have a movie (which is also heavily aimed at children) contain a protagonist who's a complete drunk. They could only try to approach it subtly.

I agree. Although i think the main audience is 18 and up. There were alot of adult themes in both IM and im2. Lots of killing ( headshots even), terrorism, betrayal, etc. I dig the level theyve explored the alcholism plot. They havent roped themselves inti it specifically but you know its there.

 

[Guerrilla]

On a different note, any guesses on stan lee's cameo? Im guessing a doorman at stark tower or maybe just a taxi driver during the invasion.

 

[Smashlilman]

If Frost Giants are "inherently evil," and incapable of possessing any redeemable qualities, then (a) Odin wouldn't have even bothered trying to sign a peace treaty with them (which he did), and (b) he sure as hell wouldn't have felt sorry for a baby Jotun and adopted him and brought him into his own home.

Frost Giants have redeeming qualities. Odin *recognized* that.

Besides, I strongly doubt the cinematic Odin is going to be allowed to be nearly as *****e-y as comic-book or even mythological Odin. The studio has no need nor desire to show a "dark side" to Odin by allowing him to do the Prometheus-type torture on Loki.

lol i think Loki was a failed experiment. No mater how much good he does He's all ways destine to do much great evil and seal the deal by causing Ragnarok.

 

[Shadowlord X]

The Skulls are the Nazi of the Universe. They live to fight and concur other planets and enslave there inhabitants. Its inherent to there species.

This is not true. In the comics they were quite benevolent at one point and became violent in response to warlike nature of the upstart Kree empire.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

It's one thing to discuss some of the obvious things ..... but the level to which some of the rest being discussed is dare I say on the verge of obsessive/compulsive. JMO.

Yep, ahh... The Superherohype forums. Home sweet home.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

On a different note, any guesses on stan lee's cameo? Im guessing a doorman at stark tower or maybe just a taxi driver during the invasion.

I think I heard that he's playing some guy on the street that talks to Cap.

 

[Shadowlord X]

If Frost Giants are "inherently evil," and incapable of possessing any redeemable qualities, then (a) Odin wouldn't have even bothered trying to sign a peace treaty with them (which he did), and (b) he sure as hell wouldn't have felt sorry for a baby Jotun and adopted him and brought him into his own home.

Frost Giants have redeeming qualities. Odin *recognized* that.

This sounds reasonable to me.

 

[Smashlilman]

This is not true. In the comics they were quite benevolent at one point and became violent in response to warlike of the upstart Kree empire.

lol I keep mixing the Mythology with the Marvel versions.

 

[Captain Marvel]

Yeah, if it wasn't for those damn dirty Kree the Skrulls would've remained a peaceful and benevolent people.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

lol I keep mixing the Mythology with the Marvel versions.

I've always thought your name was Smashamilian for some reason... After actually reading it, Smash lil man makes so much more sense.

 

[Shadowlord X]

Some posters sole purpose in life is to post for attention (whether negative or positive) .... you fail to recognize this. AB posts because he likes to incite arguments. He has the contrarian opinion 99% of the time.

There are 2 other problems with AB.

1: He continues to posts his opinions in an authoritative manner as if his opinion supercedes the rest of the universe. And these opinions go against the majority. Just look at his recent umpteenth dig at IM2.

2: The concept of the 'Annoyance Threshold'. For many people, myself included, there comes a time a certain individual has annoyed them so much that just seeing them or hearing them (or in this case reading their post) causes them to become extremely annoyed, even if the annoying person hasn't done anything this time that is actually annoying. I have a feeling AB has crossed many people's annoyance threshold here.

 

[Shadowlord X]

I think I heard that he's playing some guy on the street that talks to Cap.

Yep.

 

[Incredible Hans]

Yeah, if it wasn't for those damn dirty Kree the Skrulls would've remained a peaceful and benevolent people.

Right. "Operation Galactic Storm" showed that the Kree are the true Nazis of the universe: the Kree had concentration camps for their enemies.

 

[jaqua99]

Hiddleston, Hemsworth, Evans, and Stan signed 6 film contracts.

I think the rest of the Thor/Cap supporting casts signed 3 film contracts.

Hiddleston? No, are you sure about Hiddleston? He is gunna be in all 3 Avengers films? I doubt it.

Yeah I definately want to see Loki use more elaborate forms of magic in this film, I would love for him to create shields, manipulate the enviroment, and cast a variety of offensive spells.

I've brought up Loki not being able to fly and his lack of exotic uses of magic several times before, but for some reason no one seems to care.

I agree with you. I wanna see spellss, and I want to see him do some astral projection.

I would not hurt my child especially if it is my adoptive child.
in the movie Loki is the way he is because of his “father” Odin, if he treated Loki the same way he treated Thor he wouldn’t have to prove to his father that he is worthy and probably wouldn’t have done anything bad, I mean Odin adopted Loki you don’t love one more than the other. Then again we wouldn’t have a story.
I don’t think Odin did good by hiding Loki’s Frost Giant heritage he, like many parents in the real world with adopted children, tried to hide the fact that Loki wasn’t his child by blood in an attempt to protect him (a tactic that always comes back to bite the parents in the ass). I think Odin and Frigga should have sat down and told Loki when he was a child, would it have made things better? I don’t know, but it would have been the correct thing and may had avoided many problems for Loki.

Odin is not the reason Loki is evil. He is evil at heart.

Some posters sole purpose in life is to post for attention (whether negative or positive) .... you fail to recognize this. AB posts because he likes to incite arguments. He has the contrarian opinion 99% of the time.

Yes, so simply ignore it, like I said, everyone feeling need to respond to it is just as much as a problem in bringing the forum down, just let him talk dude. Ignore it, don't even have to respond what he says.

There are 2 other problems with AB.

1: He continues to posts his opinions in an authoritative manner as if his opinion supercedes the rest of the universe. And these opinions go against the majority. Just look at his recent umpteenth dig at IM2.

2: The concept of the 'Annoyance Threshold'. For many people, myself included, there comes a time a certain individual has annoyed them so much that just seeing them or hearing them (or in this case reading their post) causes them to become extremely annoyed, even if the annoying person hasn't done anything this time that is actually annoying. I have a feeling AB has crossed many people's annoyance threshold here.

Ignore him man, don't get involved with his posts, if we all simply ignore what he says, then there is nothing to fight about.

 

[Oruku Saki]

I personally could give a damn about you guys' and AB ongoing fighting....the last few pages; uggghhh....let's talk about Avengers please. So, did anybody else notice that when Loki says the line about "you are so desperate...." he is actually talking to Stark, then it cuts to Fury saying the "you've made me very desperate"? I always thought from the footage description we got from sdcc that this was all one scene with Fury?

 

[catgirl18]

Hiddleston? No, are you sure about Hiddleston? He is gunna be in all 3 Avengers films? I doubt it.



I agree with you. I wanna see spellss, and I want to see him do some astral projection.



Odin is not the reason Loki is evil. He is evil at heart.



Yes, so simply ignore it, like I said, everyone feeling need to respond to it is just as much as a problem in bringing the forum down, just let him talk dude. Ignore it, don't even have to respond what he says.



Ignore him man, don't get involved with his posts, if we all simply ignore what he says, then there is nothing to fight about.

Nobody is born evil this is silly

 

[jaqua99]

I personally could give a damn about you guys' and AB ongoing fighting....the last few pages; uggghhh....let's talk about Avengers please. So, did anybody else notice that when Loki says the line about "you are so desperate...." he is actually talking to Stark, then it cuts to Fury saying the "you've made me very desperate"? I always thought from the footage description we got from sdcc that this was all one scene with Fury?

Yes, exactly, who cares about the fighting, thats what I am saying. But I think that thsese are two separate conversations.

Nobody is born evil this is silly

Not true Using this logic, no one is born good, or nice

 

[captainrogers]

Nobody is born evil this is silly

Depends if the writer or the mythology has intended it to be that way.
But Odin is still not the reason for Loki's evil.

 

[Shadowlord X]

Nobody is born evil this is silly

AB maybe?

LOL.

Sorry AB. No offence. Just having some fun at your expense.

 

[jaqua99]

Depends if the writer or the mythology has intended it to be that way.
But Odin is still not the reason for Loki's evil.

These are comics, its not a direct correlation of real life, real life morals are slightly different, which is what she doesn't get, I don't think.

Loki is one of the most evil villians in marvel period.

 

[Shadowlord X]

Hey that rhymed.

 

[protocida]

Loki's imprisionment won't be shown in the movie, but, if they have it in Thor 2, it'll probably be The Room Without Doors.

 

[eddy]

I personally could give a damn about you guys' and AB ongoing fighting....the last few pages; uggghhh....let's talk about Avengers please. So, did anybody else notice that when Loki says the line about "you are so desperate...." he is actually talking to Stark, then it cuts to Fury saying the "you've made me very desperate"? I always thought from the footage description we got from sdcc that this was all one scene with Fury?

Are we sure the scene of him with Stark he's saying those lines? Sometimes trailers dub audio over other scenes. Guess this is a excuse for me to watch the trailer again.