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[Incredible Hans]

Nobody is born evil this is silly

According to wikipedia, some marvel characters are inheritently evil:

"Satannish is a demonic being of pure mystical energy, an embodiment of evil."

"Mephisto is an extremely powerful immortal demonic entity [...] The character has been shown to be energized by sources of evil in the human realm [...]"

"[...] Mephisto, who creates a 'son', Blackheart, from the energy of the accumulated evil. Blackheart explored the nature of evil under his father's tutelage [...]"

"Surtur was depicted as an immense and malevolent elemental fire demon whose power was of apocalyptic proportions."

 

[catgirl18]

These are comics, its not a direct correlation of real life, real life morals are slightly different, which is what she doesn't get, I don't think.

Loki is one of the most evil villians in marvel period.

These are comics I know that
I only said what I think about it .
is this wrong

 

[captainrogers]

These are comics, its not a direct correlation of real life, real life morals are slightly different, which is what she doesn't get, I don't think.

Loki is one of the most evil villians in marvel period.

Agreed.
I get that Loki is a favorite character.
And a certain amount of bias is to be expected.
But yes. Loki is awesome as a villain. And depending on the story, as a conflicted villain with hints of redemption.
Really, one of the only villains in the Marvel U I feel should have no sympathetic qualities is Red Skull.

 

[Shadowlord X]

Ignore him man, don't get involved with his posts, if we all simply ignore what he says, then there is nothing to fight about.

Oh I don't interact much at all.

With the exception of that one a couple posts ago, I'm trying to be completely ABstinent.

 

[jaqua99]

Hey that rhymed.

Look at you.

 

[jaqua99]

Oh I don't interact much at all.

With the exception of that one a couple posts ago, I'm trying to be completely ABstinent.

Now that is clever right there, I like it. haha

 

[captainrogers]

These are comics I know that
I only said what I think about it .
is this wrong

No, nothing wrong. Just slightly differing opinions on the matter is all.
I'm a great fan of Loki myself.

 

[catgirl18]

It looks like that they’re both running from the explosions going on behind them.

 

[Shadowlord X]

The thing is with Tom Hiddleston as LOKI, MARVEL STUDIOS has hit cinematic gold (RDJ as Tony Stark/IRON MAN now qualifies as cinematic platinum). MARVEL is smart and will recognize that and will try and not let that slip through their fingers; the same way the realised that Clark Gregg as Agent Coulson had become a fan fav and expanded his role in the MCU. So expect him to be along for duration of the THOR movie franchise.

 

[Shadowlord X]

Look at you.

I am so smrt.

 

[jaqua99]

Agreed.
I get that Loki is a favorite character.
And a certain amount of bias is to be expected.
But yes. Loki is awesome as a villain. And depending on the story, as a conflicted villain with hints of redemption.
Really, one of the only villains in the Marvel U I feel should have no sympathetic qualities is Red Skull.

I'd say Ultron and Thanos to an extent, but more so Ultron than Thanos. I feel no sympathy for Ultron. Thanos isn't "disgusting" infact I find his obsession with death and his hunger for genocide, rather interesting than disgusting, opposed to someone evil like the skull.

 

[jaqua99]

The thing is with Tom Hiddleston as LOKI, MARVEL STUDIOS has hit cinematic gold (RDJ as Tony Stark/IRON MAN now qualifies as cinematic platinum). MARVEL is smart and will recognize that and will try and not let that slip through their fingers; the same way the realised that Clark Gregg as Agent Coulson had become a fan fav and expanded his role in the MCU. So expect him to be along for duration of the THOR movie franchise.

Not just that. Loki always sticks around in Thor's story, which to be honest, is a main reason why I think They will keep him for Thor movies. But someone said he signed for 6 marvel films? 6? Not 4? Thor 1, 2, and 3, and The avengers, but what else?

 

[catgirl18]

Not just that. Loki always sticks around in Thor's story, which to be honest, is a main reason why I think They will keep him for Thor movies. But someone said he signed for 6 marvel films? 6? Not 4? Thor 1, 2, and 3, and The avengers, but what else?

He said 6

 

[jaqua99]

He said 6

I know he said six, but what I am saying, what other films will he be in? Thor 1, 2, 3, and The Avengers are 4 films. What are the two other films?

 

[Guerrilla]

I know he said six, but what I am saying, what other films will he be in? Thor 1, 2, 3, and The Avengers are 4 films. What are the two other films?

Avengers 2 & 3!

 

[Shadowlord X]

Now that is clever right there, I like it. haha

Thanx.

 

[Shadowlord X]

Not just that. Loki always sticks around in Thor's story, which to be honest, is a main reason why I think They will keep him for Thor movies. But someone said he signed for 6 marvel films? 6? Not 4? Thor 1, 2, and 3, and The avengers, but what else?

Part of it is I think that the 6 picture deal is sort of standard for MARVEL STUDIOS, with 9 picture deals for specific actors/characters.

Personally I think considering the ages of the actors, the richness of the mythos/mythology, and the top-notch rogue's gallery, that THOR movies can go far, far beyond a trilogy.

 

[Shadowlord X]

Not just that. Loki always sticks around in Thor's story, which to be honest, is a main reason why I think They will keep him for Thor movies. But someone said he signed for 6 marvel films? 6? Not 4? Thor 1, 2, and 3, and The avengers, but what else?

Also, I think it would be absolutely cool to see LOKI as a behind the scenes villain organising the MASTERS of EVIL (as in A:EMH) in a sequel to THE AVENGERS.

 

[captainrogers]

Also Hids doesn't HAVE to be in 6 films. Marvel simply has the option to call him up for that many.

 

[jaqua99]

Part of it is I think that the 6 picture deal is sort of standard for MARVEL STUDIOS, with 9 picture deals for specific actors/characters.

Personally I think considering the ages of the actors, the richness of the mythos/mythology, and the top-notch rogue's gallery, that THOR movies can go far, far beyond a trilogy.

You think they will??

 

[Guerrilla]

It looks like that they’re both running from the explosions going on behind them.

You gotta be right. If it was a case of hulk chasing widow...he could easily catch her and stomp on her or whatever. Im thinking he is protecting her from the explosions.

 

[Shadowlord X]

You think they will??

Honestly I have no idea, but I hope so. There are so many THOR villains I want to see up on the big screen.

It will of course depend on how well recieved the franchise is on a film by film basis.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

I must say that with the quality of the CGI in this film I hope Marvel sticks with either ILM or Weta for ALL of their movies. Surtur + ILM/Weta = Badass

 

[Smashlilman]

These are comics I know that
I only said what I think about it .
is this wrong

Nothing is wrong with it. We all just have a difference of opinion. For me I love the black and white nature of good and evil in comics. Well some comics like the blur the line and use real world morality.

 

[Captain Marvel]

I'd be thrilled to see Thor go beyond a movie trilogy. There're plenty of villains and plotlines they can explore that can sustain them beyond three movies. Off the top of my head there's...

Surtur
Malekith
Ulik
The Wrecking Crew
Enchantress
Executioner
Hela
Karnilla
Ares
Absorbing Man

Of course, some of those would be lackeys of other villains, but still. That's plenty of material for more than three movies. And of course, there's always Ragnarok with Loki, the Midgard Serpent, Fenris, etc.