Arrow The Barry Allen/The Flash Thread

[DrRocket]

The closest that I've ever seen a movie/show come to depicting Flash-like speed, and even this wasn't the same, was Faora in MOS during the Smallville fight.

Yeah, but there is only so many ways you can dipict flash speed, in MOS it was like she was teleporting ( which I'm sure the CW can match after watching The TP ) and then you have the blur from smallville, which wasn't that great. I'm sure there are more ways but the questions is are they any better.

 

[Rorschach2012]

http://instagram.com/grantgust

Grant Gustins twitter. It's cool he's posted some Flash related stuff

Does this picture suggest that Gustin's Flash is in the same universe as MOS?
http://instagram.com/p/eqUoL9gVBR/

he also comments on how Affleck is going to be a badass Batman.

 

[DrRocket]

Personally I hope that this show is in another separate universe, I don't want them ruining this show.

 

[Shikamaru]

Grant Gustin doesn't look that young next to Amell IMO.

 

[Just one more]

I think it is important that this show is in the same universe as MoS.

I have been wondering for a long time how DC is going to kick off their universe much like Marvel who have done such a fantastic job. I thought they had shot themselves in the foot several times already, what with the GL being such a horrible flop of a movie and Batman being made in his own separate universe as Nolan wanted to make it too grounded (a mistake in my humble opinion). I think that having a TV show encompass characters from the DC world who then go on to appear on the big screen is a good way to start progressing towards a JL movie in their own unique way without being accused of copying Marvel.

 

[DrRocket]

I think it is important that this show is in the same universe as MoS.

I have been wondering for a long time how DC is going to kick off their universe much like Marvel who have done such a fantastic job. I thought they had shot themselves in the foot several times already, what with the GL being such a horrible flop of a movie and Batman being made in his own separate universe as Nolan wanted to make it too grounded (a mistake in my humble opinion). I think that having a TV show encompass characters from the DC world who then go on to appear on the big screen is a good way to start progressing towards a JL movie in their own unique way without being accused of copying Marvel.

Nah, keep it separate, don't ruin this show.

 

[Lord Valumart]

Yeh, I mean Arrow has a really good tone to it.If Arrow's tone is the A-Team theme, then MoS had the tone of someone flat lineing.

I don't want MoS's touch of death destroying Flash.

 

[Sawyer]

 

[Shikamaru]

I would prefer the universes kept separate. WB is going to destroy the DC universe on the big screen very soon as I expected them to do. Arrow and Flash should remain untouched.

 

[Loki882]

Having two completely separate versions of the same characters at the same time in live action seems really pointless to me. Also, WB is off the a good start since MOS was freaking awesome.

 

[DrRocket]

Having two completely separate versions of the same characters at the same time in live action seems really pointless to me. Also, WB is off the a good start since MOS was freaking awesome.

Ehh, it was really a hit or miss thing with most people. A miss from me, and I'm a guy who is easily pleased, there was just something about that didn't work fro me, I didn't even like the action that much. I prefer Marvels way, a fun comic book movie, ala iron man 3.

 

[Broseph44]

I would prefer the universes kept separate. WB is going to destroy the DC universe on the big screen very soon as I expected them to do. Arrow and Flash should remain untouched.

So you can see the future? Wow didn't know Nostradamus was a member of the boards

 

[erehwon0]

MOS to me was a misstep. Setting it in the real world was infuriating! It was trying too much to emulate the success of the Dark Knight trilogy. Instead of expanding a universe that was quasi-reality, it tried to set it up in our reality "to give more emphasis to Superman". Now instead of breaking open a universe that is open to anything, it limited that option. So instead of having mutants, semi-advanced technologies, aliens (more than Kryptonians!), magic, we get our plain old boring reality. So moving forward, how do you explain a Martian, an Atlantean, and Amazon, a universal police force, and a man who can run at impossible speeds? They are going to have a radical shift in reality.

Considering they could have started off in a reality that is open to other fantastical elements (think Big Belly Burger, instead of I Hop) they painted themselves in to a corner. So unless you read tomorrow that they've discovered life on Mars, you won't get fantastical antagonists to go up against the heroes.

One more thing lacking in MOS, no levity! The sense of wonder of his powers wasn't played with enough. It was all deathly serious like TDKT! That was what Avengers had that was painfully lacking in MOS.

In regards to the Flash, if it does go to series, it shouldn't follow the template of Arrow and go almost 180 degrees in the opposite direction! Barry should be more uplifting, with a source of awe and wonder as he discovers what he can do. Not like Arrow with its sense of foreboding and burden that Oliver carries. It will fail if it copies the same formula. I mean who would even want to see a show with the same tone?

That's just my two cents.

 

[DrRocket]

They have already said the Barry will be different from Ollie, he will be more like felicity.

 

[Just one more]

I hope the whole "we must be so so serious and gritty and dark and can't have any jokes in our adaptions" doesn't become a trend in the DC movie / TV adaptions though at this stage it is looking more and more likely that it will.

The successful DC properties (Arrow, Batman, MoS) have this in common and the one that flopped obscenely (Green Lantern) was trying to mix comedy in a bit. I just sincerely hope they don't try and make everything like that now because in their eyes it is "proven" to be what the general public wants or something like that.

What makes the Marvel movies so much better in my opinion is the way they successfully mix humorous elements in with the serious tones and action. Iron Man 3 went way too far and almost played out like a comedy movie which bugged the hell out of me, but everything up to that point seemed just right.

Hopefully some of the DC properties can take a leaf out of this book.

 

[Paradox1]

I hope the whole "we must be so so serious and gritty and dark and can't have any jokes in our adaptions" doesn't become a trend in the DC movie / TV adaptions though at this stage it is looking more and more likely that it will.

The successful DC properties (Arrow, Batman, MoS) have this in common and the one that flopped obscenely (Green Lantern) was trying to mix comedy in a bit. I just sincerely hope they don't try and make everything like that now because in their eyes it is "proven" to be what the general public wants or something like that.

What makes the Marvel movies so much better in my opinion is the way they successfully mix humorous elements in with the serious tones and action. Iron Man 3 went way too far and almost played out like a comedy movie which bugged the hell out of me, but everything up to that point seemed just right.

Hopefully some of the DC properties can take a leaf out of this book.

I rather they not do such a thing, I like the way DC movies play and for the most part I like how Marvel does it too.However with Marvel they seem to be scared to death to deal with any subjects of substance in their in house studios.

I would disagree with humor at least on Arrow they make quite a few jokes. They just don't bonk you over the head with it. yeah you know what I'm talking about.

 

[roach]

MOS a misstep???
I wish I could make a misstep that brought in $662M.
You may like the movie or hate it but you can't deny that it was a success.

 

[king666]

I wish we could get a "DC TV Universe", with TV versions of Batman and Superman. Same universe as Arrow. Use Arrow to introduce the characters without superpowers, use The Flash to introduce superpowered characters.

 

[roach]

I wish we could get a "DC TV Universe", with TV versions of Batman and Superman. Same universe as Arrow. Use Arrow to introduce the characters without superpowers, use The Flash to introduce superpowered characters.

As far as I know there will be a separate TV and movie universe. Every time the producers talk they say they will be separate…so there is a chance we may see a TV superman and batman.

 

[Rorschach2012]

As far as I know there will be a separate TV and movie universe. Every time the producers talk they say they will be separate…so there is a chance we may see a TV superman and batman.

Where have they said that?

If they said that, there wouldn't be a debate about whether the universes are connected. They haven't confirmed a thing

 

[roach]

I keep posting this:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/flash-series-arrow-producers-works-595486

For his part, Berlanti is also developing a Flash movie for Warner Bros. and DC Entertainment, with sources telling THR that the feature is being eyed for 2016. Pedowitz also noted that there is no conflict with the movie studio or DC when it comes to the TV series and feature film, as previous efforts have proven troublesome when there's such an overlap.

 

[Lord Valumart]

MOS a misstep???
I wish I could make a misstep that brought in $662M.
You may like the movie or hate it but you can't deny that it was a success.

It may have made a load of money, but I've heard something from everyone that bugs them. No one has thought it was perfect. Most people I've talked to bring up that it's characters are as interesting as a dead fish, it's nothing but dull monotone emotionless speaches about being Superman, or that it's ending is so insanely over the top action packed that it's impossible to take seriously before becoming duller than the rest of the film.

And yet only a few of them actually hate the film. So what you gonna do? Accept it has flaws and some people hate it and move on? I think so.

 

[godisawesome]

I keep posting this:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/flash-series-arrow-producers-works-595486

For his part, Berlanti is also developing a Flash movie for Warner Bros. and DC Entertainment, with sources telling THR that the feature is being eyed for 2016. Pedowitz also noted that there is no conflict with the movie studio or DC when it comes to the TV series and feature film, as previous efforts have proven troublesome when there's such an overlap.

Hallelujah! The Bat embargo was probably the stupidest thing to happen to Justice Leage Unlimited or Smallville, and Superman Returns and Smallville had zero effect on each other when showing concurrently.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if Arrow was connected to the MOS movie. Quite frankly, seeing You Are Not Alone flash across Felicity's screen would be freaking awesome. However, I would prefer concurrent but different continuities for TV and movies. Partially because I think DC could prove some heroes can work by test driving them on television in a straight-laced, serious show akin to their movies. With Ra's now in Arrow, I'd love to see a fully fledged Nightwing and Red Robin show up.

Personally, I kind of prefer the more contemplative nature of the TDK trilogy and MOS. If a normal person hangs with the heroes in DC, it's a big damn deal; but apparently a massive multinational army like Shield can't coordinate an effective counter assault to aliens in the Marvel universe, coming through a bottleneck who are clearly suseptible to small-arms fire and punches.

Now, I also love the genre blending they did in the two series to make them work. I loved the invasion plot in MOS, I loved the crime thriller and disaster themes in Batman, and I feel the real problem with Green Lantern was trying to make it a Marvel style comicbook only movie. It should have been a space opera, like Thor, which I hold as the best of the standalone Marvel films and actually being more rewatchable than Avengers, and even that film was a blend with Shakespeare.

 

[godisawesome]

It may have made a load of money, but I've heard something from everyone that bugs them. No one has thought it was perfect. Most people I've talked to bring up that it's characters are as interesting as a dead fish, it's nothing but dull monotone emotionless speaches about being Superman, or that it's ending is so insanely over the top action packed that it's impossible to take seriously before becoming duller than the rest of the film.

And yet only a few of them actually hate the film. So what you gonna do? Accept it has flaws and some people hate it and move on? I think so.

It sounds to me a bit like your describing some of the Marvel films as well, but again, I'm just not enamored with the Marvel films. I think they're adequate and fun, but I think MOS was imminently more engaging and ambitious, and personally I get sick of complaints about the action and pathos.

Oh nos! They went and tried to make Zod an emphatic yet still despicable villain while finally embracing the full potential for a powerful villain for a Post-Crisis-style Superman with an honest relationship with an actually admirable and smart Lois Lane in a world where the military is at least somewhat more competent than Shield with a quarter of the budget and Krypton's decay and self destruction is actually well thought out with an implicit message for the whole film that a sincere attempt at altruism for altruism's sake is an awesome motivation for anyone and tackling the should a superhero kill idea head on and even offering a deconstruction of both ideas?

Hells yeah!

And will Superman finally cut loose and actually display how awesome and powerful he is in a style similar to the Golden Age and and Modern Age while ignoring some of the blatant stupidity from the Silver Age?

(Three totally jaw dropping defecate in your pants thrilling fight scenes later.)



YESSSSSSSS!!!t:

 

[Rorschach2012]

I keep posting this:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/flash-series-arrow-producers-works-595486

For his part, Berlanti is also developing a Flash movie for Warner Bros. and DC Entertainment, with sources telling THR that the feature is being eyed for 2016. Pedowitz also noted that there is no conflict with the movie studio or DC when it comes to the TV series and feature film, as previous efforts have proven troublesome when there's such an overlap.

Oh that kinda settles it then. I'm fine with that. I can see them introducing Hal Jordan and Dick Grayson if the embargo is lifted