Arrow The Barry Allen/The Flash Thread

[Rorschach2012]

The hardened cowl looks good, the rest of the suit not so much

the suit i posted to support my point looks pretty weak aside from the cowl, which looks perfect. A hard, armor like material for the cowl is a more than reasonable suggestion. As is light armor in places where he could be the most damaged.

Flash is going to get hit or hurt eventually, there wouldn't be a point to a movie otherwise. and the new 52 Flash suit looks like it's made out of a pretty hard material to me

I'm not talking heavy armor, but light armor overtop of a thinner material would look good

The main reason I support armor on the Flash's suit is because i think a small amount of it would make him look more aesthetically pleasing. I don't care either way, as long as Flash's suit looks good.

 

[Will Nolte]

I see this fitting with the style of the show more. The dark areas should be more of a red (not maroon), with the white as yellow, though. And the cowl should be red.

 

[Sawyer]

Awful. AWFUL!

 

[roach]

http://screenrant.com/arrow-season-2-flash-costume-details/

But from what Gustin’s heard so far, fans needn’t worry:

“I would imagine when The Flash comes he’ll be in a pretty traditional Flash costume… That’s kind of what I’ve caught wind of.”

Since Gustin is a self-professed lifelong DC fan, his words carry a bit of weight. Still, the term ‘traditional’ (read: red with yellow lightning bolts) covers plenty of ground where The Flash is concerned, so we’ll await more details before weighing in.

 

[roach]

http://www.dailysuperhero.com/2013/07/the-flash-tv-show-details-including.html

DC comic writer and show consultant Geoff Johns was also talking Flash, on the call, and added some insight about the character's story, his look and how his powers will be on display.

"We're also exploring a very personal story for Barry, life as forensic scientist and the people around him, the tragedies and how he deals with them in a very different way than Oliver Queen," Johns said. "No sweat suits or strange code names; he will be The Flash."

This leads me to believe we are getting the classic costume.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Awful. AWFUL!

Yeah agreed. the comic colour scheme is ideal already. Light armor on certain places would still be considered the traditional costume too and would still go with Johns' and Gustin's comments

 

[roach]

i doubt there will be light armor on The Flash…he will be spinning off from Arrow and he has no armor

 

[Rorschach2012]

i doubt there will be light armor on The Flash…he will be spinning off from Arrow and he has no armor

I'm not expecting it, but won't be surprised if that's what ends up happening.

 

[Lencho01]

 

[Rorschach2012]

I don't like that material, it looks too cheap

 

[DrRocket]

Hmmmmm.... I thought Ollie wore some armour, beccause if you remember he did take a couple of arrows to the back, which were shot from a compound, which is more powerful than a recurve and in the pilot episode he took a bullet to the chest and it didn't puncture the armour (leather jacket thing).

I think the flash should have a hardened cowl and some gauntlets like things.

 

[roach]

Hmmmmm.... I thought Ollie wore some armour, beccause if you remember he did take a couple of arrows to the back, which were shot from a compound, which is more powerful than a recurve and in the pilot episode he took a bullet to the chest and it didn't puncture the armour (leather jacket thing).

I think the flash should have a hardened cowl and some gauntlets like things.

nope…he's been shot several times.

Spoiler

his mom shot him in the chest and he rammed an arrow through his own chest into Malcom's during the season finale

 

[DrRocket]

Well I guess it only works when the writers need it to I won't be able to watch the next episode till Thursday

 

[erehwon0]

My philosophy about the Flash having armor is: If a motorcyclist wears leather to protect themselves for spills, shouldn't the Flash as well? Sure when he's running he can vibrate through obstacles (that is with an experienced Flash!) but what if he makes a mistake and miss his footing somehow? What would happen to a human body smashing into solid matter at 200 mph, let alone at Indy car speeds?

Also since this new costume is, now correct me if I'm wrong, condensed speed force, then it can change to whatever Barry is comfortable with. The more experienced (confident) he becomes, maybe less armor to his costume? Now that would be cool!

Also, aside from time travelling aspect of his power, what about dimension hopping? If they can't link this to the cinematic DCCU, maybe they can sidestep that by meeting alternate versions of ALL the DC superheroes (New 52). They can play all they want without affecting the movie versions of everyone. So if they eventually do say that the TV and movie universes are one and the same or not it's totally explainable.

Heck you can even devote a couple of episodes where Barry is lost in the other dimension and has to enlist the help of a more experienced Flash (Jay Garrick) to find his way home! Oh the possiblities!

 

[roach]

My philosophy about the Flash having armor is: If a motorcyclist wears leather to protect themselves for spills, shouldn't the Flash as well? Sure when he's running he can vibrate through obstacles (that is with an experienced Flash!) but what if he makes a mistake and miss his footing somehow? What would happen to a human body smashing into solid matter at 200 mph, let alone at Indy car speeds?

you answered your own question. He vibrates through things when he needs to.

Also since this new costume is, now correct me if I'm wrong, condensed speed force, then it can change to whatever Barry is comfortable with. The more experienced (confident) he becomes, maybe less armor to his costume? Now that would be cool!

We don't know if the new costume will be the costume for the show

Also, aside from time travelling aspect of his power, what about dimension hopping? If they can't link this to the cinematic DCCU, maybe they can sidestep that by meeting alternate versions of ALL the DC superheroes (New 52). They can play all they want without affecting the movie versions of everyone. So if they eventually do say that the TV and movie universes are one and the same or not it's totally explainable.

Heck you can even devote a couple of episodes where Barry is lost in the other dimension and has to enlist the help of a more experienced Flash (Jay Garrick) to find his way home! Oh the possiblities!

They have already said that the TV universe is separate from the movie universe.

 

[divan]

If Flash just recieved his powers I can see him trying a more protective suit at first and switch to a more traditional costume as he gets more experienced.

Frankly, I just don't see Barry vibrating thorugh molecules the very day after he gets superpowers. That would make him too powerful from the start.

 

[roach]

You have to keep the Flash lean. This is a guy who runs and armor or padding would slow him down. I think if we start talking about him hitting stuff at super speed then we take away the fantasy element of the character….The Flash hitting anything…..a fly, water, splinter at the speeds that he runs at could be disastrous. So go back to the idea that the speed force creates an aura that sort of protects him.

I also look at the suits olympic runners wear and I think that should be what the Flash suit should be like. Professional runners and even regular runners don't pad up before running. Translate that to a superhuman whose body has been modified to superhuman speed levels. He also heals faster than a normal human. he has reflexes that are faster than anyone's. He doesn't need armor. Put him in a suit as thin as Spider-man's and let him do his thing.

 

[DrRocket]

^ only if its as good as the Spider-Man one.

 

[vantheman77]

I'm glad the writers and producers of Arrow are going to give Flash the proper respect that Smallville's didn't. I think those comments about not using hoods and strange code names was a shot at that show. Plus the actor being a DC Comics fan helps.

 

[Boy Scout]

You have to keep the Flash lean.

Who has suggested otherwise?

I think if we start talking about him hitting stuff at super speed then we take away the fantasy element of the character….

Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Examining some of the realistic consequences of hitting someone or being hit at super speed would do a lot to make the character and his world more exciting. It's not something they have to do, though.

The Flash hitting anything…..a fly, water, splinter at the speeds that he runs at could be disastrous. So go back to the idea that the speed force creates an aura that sort of protects him.

It protects him when he's in motion. If he trips and falls or is hit, it's a different story.

I also look at the suits olympic runners wear and I think that should be what the Flash suit should be like. Professional runners and even regular runners don't pad up before running.

Professional runners aren't capable of breaking the sound barrier and they don't fight crime.

He also heals faster than a normal human.

But he can still die.

he has reflexes that are faster than anyone's.

But he can still get hurt.

 

[erehwon0]

Who has suggested otherwise?



Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Examining some of the realistic consequences of hitting someone or being hit at super speed would do a lot to make the character and his world more exciting. It's not something they have to do, though.



It protects him when he's in motion. If he trips and falls or is hit, it's a different story.



Professional runners aren't capable of breaking the sound barrier and they don't fight crime.



But he can still die.



But he can still get hurt.

What he said!

 

[Lord Valumart]

I still think something like this would be fine for Flash...

But you know, in the right colours...

 

[Boy Scout]

Agreed.

 

[roach]

I still think something like this would be fine for Flash...

But you know, in the right colours...

and this will protect him from falls at 200mph???

 

[Boy Scout]

Um...yeah. Suspension of disbelief and all that. It works for Batman.