The Batman Spoiler Discussion Thread

[BMW 224]

Hers some new context to a certain Joker scene we've been hearing about I find it pretty interesting and tells some things about his charactersation.

"Riddler in the movie is doing terrible things for a admiribal reasons Joker sorta of wants him to be like him and do bad things for the sake of being the bad guy" joker pulls Riddler to the completely evil side at the end"

 

[BattinsonEarth2]

Where is this person dropping all those infos?

 

[Refrigerator7]

I'm not sure if this is real but on The Batman sub reddit a deleted post but Op is still answering questions.

She thinkst the "shocking ending" from the test screenings that people in test screening were talking about was a cut subplot revealing Thomas Wayne had a affair with Edward moms making Bruce and Nasthon related.

The test screening she went to say no longer has this plot point because higher ups and Matt Reeves decided to reshoot it and cut it out.

There's a lot of other stuff she's saying too.

Many of it lines up with what we've heard or at least speculated.

But there's also new stuff too.

It honey sounds really incredible.

Oh and Matt Reeves pulled a Dark Knight if this is true by showing the ending shot in the trailer lol.

I'm on that sub frequently. Can you link me to this person?

 

[boba loba]

Does anyone know if the fight scenes or at least a few of them are one take? I heard a rumor that said that.

 

[Boom]

@shauner111 What have you heard about this supposed second scene with The Joker?

 

[shauner111]

I'm not sure if this is real but on The Batman sub reddit a deleted post but Op is still answering questions.

She thinkst the "shocking ending" from the test screenings that people in test screening were talking about was a cut subplot revealing Thomas Wayne had a affair with Edward moms making Bruce and Nasthon related.

The test screening she went to say no longer has this plot point because higher ups and Matt Reeves decided to reshoot it and cut it out.

There's a lot of other stuff she's saying too.

Many of it lines up with what we've heard or at least speculated.

But there's also new stuff too.

It honey sounds really incredible.

Oh and Matt Reeves pulled a Dark Knight if this is true by showing the ending shot in the trailer lol.

Hey can you provide a link to this reddit user or thread or maybe tell us the other new stuff she was saying?

The final scene is sprinkled throughout the trailers but the actual final shot isn't in any of the trailers.

 

[shauner111]

Does anyone know if the fight scenes or at least a few of them are one take? I heard a rumor that said that.

There are two I think. One with Batman in the iceberg lounge. Another with Batman in the hallway.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

I remember someone said here that the final scene is the motorcycle scene with Bat and Cat together?

 

[Batcat00]

Hello, if someone has watched the movie and knows the details of Selina and Falcone's relationship can you please dm them to me? Thanks

 

[Gothamsknight]

There are two I think. One with Batman in the iceberg lounge. Another with Batman in the hallway.

This really excites me. Are one takes the same as tracking shots ooor?

 

[shauner111]

Hello, if someone has watched the movie and knows the details of Selina and Falcone's relationship can you please dm them to me? Thanks

Is this who I think it is

 

[Catrina]

I remember someone said here that the final scene is the motorcycle scene with Bat and Cat together?

Yes, this was mentioned somewhere in this thread, I think. So the scene in trailer 3, in which the bat and the cat ride their motorbikes next to each other would belong to the final sequence. And I wonder if catwoman's "it's only getting worse for you" (trailer 2) is also part of the end?

 

[Catrina]

Could anybody clarify where on reddit the information mentioned above came from?
Thanks!

 

[BMW 224]

Could anybody clarify where on reddit the information mentioned above came from?
Thanks!

The person was lying I'm pretty sure.

Shauner has credible information and he said the ending Op claimed was false.

 

[Refrigerator7]

Is this who I think it is

Hey. Can you check your DM's, please

 

[shauner111]

The person was lying I'm pretty sure.

Shauner has credible information and he said the ending Op claimed was false.

Tell us more though haha I’m curious to know what she said.

 

[DKDetective]

I'm not sure if this is real but on The Batman sub reddit a deleted post but Op is still answering questions.

She thinkst the "shocking ending" from the test screenings that people in test screening were talking about was a cut subplot revealing Thomas Wayne had a affair with Edward moms making Bruce and Nasthon related.

The test screening she went to say no longer has this plot point because higher ups and Matt Reeves decided to reshoot it and cut it out.

There's a lot of other stuff she's saying too.

Many of it lines up with what we've heard or at least speculated.

But there's also new stuff too.

It honey sounds really incredible.

Oh and Matt Reeves pulled a Dark Knight if this is true by showing the ending shot in the trailer lol.

Wrong.

Shauner already caught this Reddit poster on the ending issue, but the alleged cut shock twist also clearly shows this leaker was full of it. The whole villain being the illegitimate love child of a corrupt Thomas Wayne is straight out of 2019 Joker. Obviously, Joker subverted that point by making it Arthur and his mother's delusion, there is no way Reeves is getting so close to a major plot point of the last Batman-related movie.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Riddler being the bastard son of Thomas Wayne and the half-brother of Bruce would be the biggest shark jump of this whole movie on the level of "I am the author of all of your pain, James" Biofield in Spectre.

 

[DKDetective]

Riddler being the bastard son of Thomas Wayne and the half-brother of Bruce would be the biggest shark jump of this whole movie on the level of "I am the author of all of your pain, James" Biofield in Spectre.

Yeah, exactly, I was going to mention that example. The whole thing with Blofeld in Spectre is a pretty good cautionary tale of those sort of forced twists going awry. I can't see Reeves even considering that. Not even a hack like Told Phillips actually went there.

 

[Sharkboy]

Riddler being the bastard son of Thomas Wayne and the half-brother of Bruce would be the biggest shark jump of this whole movie on the level of "I am the author of all of your pain, James" Biofield in Spectre.

If done right, it would work, its all about context. They did something similar in court of owls, where it was just left to the reader to think about whether lincoln march was lying or not about being Bruce Wayne's estranged brother. I don't mind if they mess with generally accepted canon as long as they present it properly. The reason why it didnt work in spectre is because it was just a late minute twist that didnt make any sense and had no build up or consequence, 'okay blofield is James...adoptive brother? so what? how does that change any of the characters or their actions? it didn't. So it didn't matter' If Nashton ends up being an illegimate wayne, and Bruce changed the way he goes about things based on that revelation alone and it puts riddlers actions in a different context, thats a twist worth having.

 

[shauner111]

Starting to think BMW made it up cuz he won't answer any of us when we ask for links or more details haha. If I'm wrong, I apologize BMW but the story is a little sketchy. None of us can find it on reddit and you're not even allowed spoilers on the main Batman sub reddit over there soooo..

Sorry I'm just suspicious lol

 

[DKDetective]

If done right, it would work, its all about context. They did something similar in court of owls, where it was just left to the reader to think about whether lincoln march was lying or not about being Bruce Wayne's estranged brother. I don't mind if they mess with generally accepted canon as long as they present it properly. The reason why it didnt work in spectre is because it was just a late minute twist that didnt make any sense and had no build up or consequence, 'okay blofield is James...adoptive brother? so what? how does that change any of the characters or their actions? it didn't. So it didn't matter' If Nashton ends up being an illegimate wayne, and Bruce changed the way he goes about things based on that revelation alone and it puts riddlers actions in a different context, thats a twist worth having.

That is not really true. Twists making characters secret siblings or love children is a cheap, melodramatic, soap opera way of trying to increase drama and tension, which is why it is a favourite lazy trick of soap operas. Antagonists shouldn't have to be related to increase dramatic tension. There are far more natural and sophisticated ways of building dramatic tension in a story.

 

[Art Vandelay]

This brings to mind a bit of a pet peeve of mine, when shows have a character refer to someone specifically as "brother" or "sister" when they want to do reveal the big twist. Like, "Good to see you again...brother." There never seems to be a more organic way to do this.

 

[BMW 224]

Starting to think BMW made it up cuz he won't answer any of us when we ask for links or more details haha. If I'm wrong, I apologize BMW but the story is a little sketchy. None of us can find it on reddit and you're not even allowed spoilers on the main Batman sub reddit over there soooo..

Sorry I'm just suspicious lol

Can't really blame you to be honest lol

But nah I didn't make it up.


It was up on the main sub until it got deleted by the mods because of the no spoiler rules.

I made a comment in there so could still see if Op was answering anymore questions.



I'm Sad distribution 77-9.

If you click my account go to my history your see the post I was talking about.

Pretty sure it's bull**** though.

Hopefully this clears the confusion up.

 

[Sharkboy]

That is not really true. Twists making characters secret siblings or love children is a cheap, melodramatic, soap opera way of trying to increase drama and tension, which is why it is a favourite lazy trick of soap operas. Antagonists shouldn't have to be related to increase dramatic tension. There are far more natural and sophisticated ways of building dramatic tension in a story.

wrong. That’s a quite a broad brush you’re painting with. You’re essentially saying that regardless of the context, any twist that involves a secret sibling is trash. Is it cliche and overused? Yes. But it’s not automatically indicative of bad writing, as long as it’s done in an organic way that makes sense thematically they can do whatever twist they want. It’s your choice to be on here, but taking speculative twists out of context is never a good idea without knowing exactly how things play out.

that being said I doubt that’s how things will play out and I’d prefer it didn’t go that way, but as I stated; It’s been done before with Batman and to pretty decent effect.