Interesting. The shadows conceal his face but not the bronze/brown/gold of a utlity belt or the detailed musculature of his suit. Easy to make it seem like you're right when you decide on the context...
Never said the exposed face didn't have disadvantages. I explained that it had advantages as well as his head being protected enough to still be real world practical(See Swat Team).
I also mentioned in addition how it doesn't undermine the hybrid creature premise and a few other things. I see we've moved onto the next qualm, we are seemingly going down the list that I have to debunk. At least we're moving.
I mentioned that a partially exposed face can often times be
hidden in shadows, Take a look at the ninjas in the back here, partially exposed face but still blending under direct light:
(Throw a burton belt over one of those suckers shoulders and see what happens)
I never said that was the default but it can be applied under the right circumstance with effort as can the belt but why choose FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON or advantage, same with yellow boots and gloves. I also never said any of this was perfect, I simply contested your assertion that nothing on his suit design was anything but aesthetic.
As for hiding the detailed musculature....guess he needs to go back to the drawing board on that one. How to still show his muscles when in the dark otherwise it's all moot lol. Clearly I'm talking about when he is exposed to his enemies, I assume happens in his fights and such, more or less when he wants it to happen.
The lower half of his face isn't important? Advantages such as what? Also, please list the tactical advantages of a bat emblem on ones chest (non-speculation please).
That's just as specious and "flimsy" a rationalization as my idea about the utility belt. What are the odds anyone would even see the emblem though- Seeing as how it's "disguised by shadows" (much like his face according to you)?
Never said the suit, or the emblem or his black costume is always 'disguised by the shadows'. Pretty sure all his enemies and plenty of his allies have seen him and his black insignia....
I listed the tactical advantage to the insignia on his chest, particularly as to how it directly correlates with the myth and giant symbol in the sky, now I'm curious as flimsy as my rhetoric is for why he even has it(on his chest) is; care to argue against anything I said, the way I did against your yellow belt easy to find stuff theory? I would hope you can do more than simply assert the word 'flimsy'.
And again, the mandible and to a lesser degree upper jaw are alot less important than his brain(see regulation army/police/baseball helmets). They protect the brain and upper skull, allowing for communication and such through the mouth. I also listed how he can switch between various re breathers and pills and so forth with little to no effort. That is to say he could at least paint his mouth black and take even more precautions like a cover slide, but there is at least some things there. I've yet to hear why a yellow belt is at all rational or advantageous in any such way!
I also made it a point to explain how tradition plays somewhat of a part here, where as with the belt there is no such strangle hold whatsoever. But again, that's an additional.
Much in the same way that white skin against a black suit/mask would stand out/present an easy target? Also, who says the belt needs to be bright? You're deciding the context again to spin the argument in your favour. Maybe it's a toned down bronze or subdued gold. I'd be interested to hear what you have to say if the new belt does in fact turn out to be something other than black...
I'm deciding context?
I'm arguing against a bright yellow and or bright belt or belt that stands out. If you are arguing for a dark belt that very much blends in, then that changes the entire context of this conversation now doesn't it. Here you were arguing that function means nothing over all aesthetics when it comes to batman, now we are creeping more and more into the darker or darkest belt. I have no issue with a non black belt(I personally don't think black blends as well as a few other tones) Notice me not arguing against a grey suit. I have issues with a belt that, like Guard argued against, is very much lighter than the rest of the suit, that includes TDKT(imo); for absolutely no reason other than aesthetics only to be defended by someone that says batman is all aesthetics.
Either you argue that dark bronze is tactical or you argue that batman doesn't care about tactical, but your hovering on multiples sides here is growing confusing. I mean seriously, what about a dark dark subdued peach belt? The point is that the
less it stands out against the suit the better the belt design is for the premise, period. You seemingly agree on the practicality there, otherwise you wouldn't be going where you are going.
On that note, great.
Just an observation. I didn't diregard anything he said. I disagree with his conceit concerning the bat-belt and take exception with the way he put down previous versions in favour of the new one. Not complicated.
Clearly you disagree but I'm still trying to discern as to why. He said he didn't like a yellow or gold belt(as we've seen in the past) cause it works against practicality and that they've always had the option of an alternative. Which is 100% true. He also said how this is the First black pouch belt we've seen. Also very true.
Where you factor into all of this other than to claim that the 'bronze' not yellow or gold belts from the nolan film weren't all that impractical and to claim fans hate things that are old, as well as claiming everything on batman is impractical in nature.... guess we'll never know.
Again, if you want to have a philosophical discussion about how practicality infuses the character and has mostly been conveyed that's one thing. If you want to discuss how nolan's belts weren't all that yellow but actually fed into that, that's another discussion.
Anyways I have some work to do. Have a good one.
