Infinity War The Black Widow Thread

[Capsfan]

Oh, man. Just read a thread on reddit about that line "you could at least recognize me". Oh my. The extent of delusion of these Buckynat fans... Unbelievable. And people accused Romanogers, Clintasha and Stucky shippers in that. Oh, boy. I admire the patience of people talking to them.

 

[Panacea]

I thought that was a reference to the idea that they worked together before Black Widow joined SHIELD.

 

[Rote]

They are talking about Russos answer. When asked about it, one of them answered: "I don't know. We will find out."
And now buckynat stans are convinced Russos promised them shared history.
The Russos really need to stop baiting fans. Too late to retcon that. Bucky definitely doesn't remember her.

 

[Xeno]

Oh, man. Just read a thread on reddit about that line "you could at least recognize me". Oh my. The extent of delusion of these Buckynat fans... Unbelievable. And people accused Romanogers, Clintasha and Stucky shippers in that. Oh, boy. I admire the patience of people talking to them.

Natasha was referring to Barnes recognizing her after all of the other times he tried to kill her. In TWS, she said that he stalked her and a Soviet defector before killing the man by shooting straight through her body. He also tried to kill her several times in TWS, including by shooting her again. Naturally, Natasha would expect a man who had tried to murder her on multiple occasions to remember her.

On another note, in the MCU Natasha is canonically around the same age as Scarlett Johansson. Therefore, she could not have had a relationship Barnes decades ago as she did in the comics, unless he's also a pedophile.

 

[ScarlettW]

They are talking about Russos answer. When asked about it, one of them answered: "I don't know. We will find out."
And now buckynat stans are convinced Russos promised them shared history.
The Russos really need to stop baiting fans. Too late to retcon that. Bucky definitely doesn't remember her.

They aren't confirming anything. This can be a yes or no. They said that when they were promoting CW, that is, in the early stages of IW and Avengers 4, which we know, as it happened in CW, can change.
It's not their fault if the fans don't know how to interpret that this is not a confirmation about a past between them.

 

[Capsfan]

Possible spoilers for Ragnarok. So, people, who have seen it say that

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it looks like her romance with Bruce is gonna be continued

. Kind of a bummer, tbh.

 

[Iceman]

Possible spoilers for Ragnarok. So, people, who have seen it say that

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it looks like her romance with Bruce is gonna be continued

. Kind of a bummer, tbh.

Ohhh

 

[MbJ]

We already knew they'd be addressing it.

Scarjo herself brought it up (go to 1:10).

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Hopefully the "devastation" she mentions is a breakup.

 

[Capsfan]

It could be a break-up, but it could be something else. And you definitely can address something without hinting it has any future, like they did in CW. If someone here has seen Thor already, it would be great to get some thoughts on this matter under spoiler tag.

 

[Panacea]

I've never had a problem with it.

 

[Vera Costa]

I think they'll address Bruce/Nat in IW. But based on what Scarlett has said about her scene with Mark, they may do it as Natasha having moved on. She didn't wait for him but lived her own life.

 

[Xeno]

We already knew they'd be addressing it.

Scarjo herself brought it up (go to 1:10).

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Hopefully the "devastation" she mentions is a breakup.

I assumed Scarlett meant they were breaking up when I first saw that interview. Maybe Natasha dumps Bruce when he comes back to Earth. I was actually hoping that Hulk got busy with some alien wenches and sired a bunch of scaly, green bastards on Sakaar but I guess that didn't happen.

 

[Capsfan]

Spoilers from Ragnarok.

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Thor actually tries to calm Hulk the same way as Natasha, and later the only thing being able to turn Hulk into Bruce again was the video with Nat from Ultron.
This is much more than what Thor/Jane break up has got. And it's not a Hulk solo movie.

I don't really understand so much emphasis on it, if they really intend to end it soon.

 

[zephyrinthesky]

Spoilers from Ragnarok.

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Thor actually tries to calm Hulk the same way as Natasha, and later the only thing being able to turn Hulk into Bruce again was the video with Nat from Ultron.
This is much more than what Thor/Jane break up has got. And it's not a Hulk solo movie.

I don't really understand so much emphasis on it, if they really intend to end it soon.

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"Sun's getting real low" in Ragnarok was so brilliantly and hilariously played. I'm glad Taika ran with the opportunity to show how silly the Beauty & the Beast thing was.

I feel like Banner's arc will be about him accepting the Hulk on a more permanent basis. Natasha's initial attraction to him was because he was determined NOT to be a killer and a fighter. Once Bruce embraces being what he hated for so long, what drew her to him is effectively gone.

I'm sure there will be emotional fallout for Widow in seeing another person doomed to a life of fighting, but the Bruce/Natasha relationship doesn't need a lot of screentime.

 

[honestbharani]

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Wasn't Betty Ross supposed to be in IW?

 

[Panacea]

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Wasn't Betty Ross supposed to be in IW?

I think one Scottish publication said something about her being in it when reporting on Infinity War filming in Scotland but there was nothing really backing it up I believe.

 

[honestbharani]

Awww, shucks.

 

[MbJ]

I just have to say I am amused that early on people kept insisting Black Widow would have a minor bit role in the film when by all we've seen that's not the case.

 

[Panacea]

Have we seen anything to the contrary?

 

[zephyrinthesky]

Have we seen anything to the contrary?

Contrary to the belief that she'll have a small bit role? Well, according to various set reports and photos she's been spotted in:

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• Edinburgh, close to where the Proxima Midnight and Ebony Maw fight scenes were taking place.
• In a pub with Chris Hemsworth and Mark Ruffalo
• In what looks like a Wakandan field with set chairs for her, Chris Evans and Chadwick Boseman

So at the very least, she's tagging along with other big characters in several prominent set pieces.

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I'm guessing she has a part to play in Hulk's three-movie arc that's been discussed in interviews, and of course she'll be sharing scenes with her good friend Steve Rogers. It'll also be interesting to see what kind of welcome the Wakandans would extend to a spy who's already double-crossed their king once.

 

[MbJ]

The leaked images confirm she has her stun batons from Age of Ultron again.

 

[zephyrinthesky]

The leaked images confirm she has her stun batons from Age of Ultron again.

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I'm guessing for novelty's sake that her batons can be linked to form a staff like in the leaked promo materials.

I hope at some point they give her some beefier weaponry than sticks and handguns. She literally had a locker full of rifles in the Quinjet in CW.

 

[AvengerPA]

The leaked images also show that she is with Team Cap now. I wonder if she and Steve and just friends or if they have become lovers now.

 

[RoastBeast]

Am I wrong in hoping they are so busy working the problem there won't be time for any romance?

 

[Capsfan]

I don't think Natasha needs another romance after Bruce. But in case the Russos are unable to leave her alone, Steve is really the best option for her. I know, Sebastian Stan ships Buckynat very hard, but I still don't see how it could work in the MCU. It would be just a reiteration of BruceNat out-of-nowhere awfulness.