Comics The Build to ASM #700

[Will Nolte]

I thought David Michelinie did a pretty exceptional job with ASM for 3-4 year span.

I second that. Michelinie and Bags really got me into Spidey more than any other creative team out there.

 

[Themanofbat]

Micheline's run was kind mediocre with me... and Larson's art didn't help... as well as the Venom over-exposure...

 

[runawayboulder]

I thought with Bagley is when his run began to lose steam as the good stories became few and far in between. His issue with McFarlane were classic and by the time Larsen cam on he was hitting his stride.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

Michs and Bags were pretty good...

Larson art makes me want to throw up...

the human body does NOT bend that way the way that Larson draws it...

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I liked Micheline's (is that how you spell it?) early Venom stories. Especially the one where Spidey and the V-Man tangle on that deserted island. Larson was highly stylized, but I actually like him better than McFarlane (and a helluva lot better than Ramos). Nothing beats Bags though. Bags could make a mediocre story seem like a decent comic solely thanks to the redeeming power of his awesome art.

 

[Will Nolte]

Bags is also a good storyteller as well. The way he does his layouts really helps move the story along.

 

[runawayboulder]

Larsen's art was nowhere near as wild on his ASM run as it is today.

 

[Spidey_87]

Am I the only one that thinks someone else might die in issue 700? Slott has been teasing Ock's eventual demise since ASM 600, so that seems like it would be too predictable.

Also, it would be cool to see what Harry has been up to lately? We haven't seen him since he beat down that cop over a year or two ago?

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Am I the only one that thinks someone else might die in issue 700? Slott has been teasing Ock's eventual demise since ASM 600, so that seems like it would be too predictable.

Also, it would be cool to see what Harry has been up to lately? We haven't seen him since he beat down that cop over a year or two ago?

It was a really good idea to bring him back from the dead. Invalidating the classic Spectacular #200 is okay, because he's been used really well since he returned.

That's sarcasm, yeah.

 

[Spidey_87]

It was a really good idea to bring him back from the dead. Invalidating the classic Spectacular #200 is okay, because he's been used really well since he returned.

That's sarcasm, yeah.

I completely agree with you. American Son was ok, but he has not really done anything since his return. It would be cool to see Harry and Norman fight to the bitter end, as in one or both of them finally dies.

 

[Wadaltmon]

" ...through circumstances strikingly similar to Peter Parker's origin: It seems that while on a school field trip to Peter's laboratory, young Andy is zapped by a malfunctioning invention that leaves him with superhuman abilities. Feeling responsible for the accident, Peter decides it's his duty to help Any discover and use his powers. "
" "What we try to do with the 50th anniversary of Spider-Man is we try to play with the original clay of the book," editor Steve Wacker said.” "When Spider-Man was first created in the 1960s, there was no other superhero like him. Pop culture had never really taken teenagers into account. What Stan [Lee] and Steve [Ditko] did was sing to their angst, and we're trying to sort of modernize that." "
"Teen hero Spider-Man is now responsible for this teen hero sidekick. "
My guess is that with all this talk of responsibility, Spider-Man dies somehow (whether it be by GG like in USM, or by some other thing), and leaves the "great power/great responsibility" legacy to Alpha. Then Alpha replaces Spider-Man by either acting as Spider-Man, or simply the Spidey series ending and having Alpha begin. Obviously, they want a more modern hero, instead of keeping this hero after his (in my opinion)failure in OMD/BND.
Ideas on this?

 

[Spidey_62]

Am I the only one that thinks someone else might die in issue 700? Slott has been teasing Ock's eventual demise since ASM 600, so that seems like it would be too predictable.

Also, it would be cool to see what Harry has been up to lately? We haven't seen him since he beat down that cop over a year or two ago?

I think Doc Ock's gonna die right before #700. Dan Slott revealed a while back that the story right before 700 in 698-699 is called "Dying Wish".

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I think Doc Ock's gonna die right before #700.

And no one will care, because they know he'll be brought back in #750.

If we're lucky we'll get another cynical, fake "comic death." If we're unlucky they'll reboot Spidey or replace him with his sidekick Alpha, which is the rumor du jour.

 

[Wadaltmon]

I think Doc Ock's gonna die right before #700. Dan Slott revealed a while back that the story right before 700 in 698-699 is called "Dying Wish".

Perhaps it is Peter Parker's death? And he wishes that Alpha give something to Aunt May (reveal identity) or MJ or something, or for Alpha to become a super hero in his place.
Eh, yeah, Doc Ock will die very soon though.
Also, I think that Alpha could not "replace" Spidey... he could, though, be a superhero instead of Spidey... he might not even have the same powers as Spidey.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Perhaps it is Peter Parker's death? And he wishes that Alpha give something to Aunt May (reveal identity) or MJ or something, or for Alpha to become a super hero in his place.
Eh, yeah, Doc Ock will die very soon though.
Also, I think that Alpha could not "replace" Spidey... he could, though, be a superhero instead of Spidey... he might not even have the same powers as Spidey.

But then without his powers and costume, he can't star in a comic titled Spider-Man.

 

[ParkerPeters]

At this point, I am hoping for a reboot. This universe is so ****ed.

 

[DACrowe]

So wait, is it true the "Internet shattering" #700 is giving Spidey a...sidekick?

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Yeah, like that won't be retconned after five issues. <wipes away tears from laughter.> Besides did anybody tell Slott that Black Cat was basically Spidey's partner/sidekick (as well as FWB) for like 5 years in the '80s before he married MJ? I guess they hope you forget that stuff.

Yeah, OMD/BND ran me off Spidey. I came here to find out if the "shattering" event was ending that schtick. Nope, it's a sidekick. Wow. Maybe in another 100 issues, Spidey. Until then, stay boring.

 

[DACrowe]

EDIT: Just read that's not 700, but 692. Maybe 700 is they kill off this "Alpha" character after Norman Osborn beats him to death with a wrench a la "Death in the Family."

P.S. I love Marvel's logic. Peter can't have a newborn daughter, that makes him seem OLD! Peter can't be married? That's RIDICULOUS! But wait, let's give him a teenage sidekick so he immediately seems like the square middle-aged father figure!



This is just too funny.

 

[runawayboulder]

A preview for ASM #692 is up which begins the Alpha story.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=13304

Spoiler

So since this Alpha kid gets blast by a ray of Parker Particles, a form of hyper kinetic energy, I'm assuming that he'll have powers similar to Spider-Man......or Speedball.

But I'm starting to have doubts about him replacing Spider-Man. I have this feeling that with Ock's final days being focused in an arc leading to 700, perhaps the big to do Slott has planned is Spider-Man deliberately taking a life. Peter Kevorkian Parker.....

 

[CConn]

EDIT: Just read that's not 700, but 692. Maybe 700 is they kill off this "Alpha" character after Norman Osborn beats him to death with a wrench a la "Death in the Family."

P.S. I love Marvel's logic. Peter can't have a newborn daughter, that makes him seem OLD! Peter can't be married? That's RIDICULOUS! But wait, let's give him a teenage sidekick so he immediately seems like the square middle-aged father figure!



This is just too funny.

Um, no offense, but it does kind of make sense. Marvel isn't a singular person. It's different people.

Quesada and JMS masterminded the whole breakup retcon, but since then, JMS left, Quesada is no longer EIC, and Slott has largely taken over the reigns, and I'm sure Marvel is giving him a fair amount of creative freedom, and the sidekick is probably his thing.

So if anything, we should be kinda glad Marvel is giving its writers more freedom.

 

[runawayboulder]

Too much freedom if you ask me. It depends on the writer really. Guys like Slott, Gillen or Remender don't need to be kept in check. They need to break out the shackles for guys like Bendis and Fraction.

 

[CConn]

Bendis runs Marvel, so that'll never happen.

And why does he run Marvel? Because miserable ****s like us buy his books.

 

[The Joker]

I have this feeling that with Ock's final days being focused in an arc leading to 700, perhaps the big to do Slott has planned is Spider-Man deliberately taking a life. Peter Kevorkian Parker.....

I don't think Ock is going anywhere. They already killed him off once in the Clone Saga right after he found out Spidey's identity. This would just be history repeating itself.

 

[runawayboulder]

CBR did an interview with Dan Slott about the recent Lizard arc, this weeks issue of ASM and everything leading up to ASM 700.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40621

So ASM 700 is the official close to the Big Time era of ASM. I'm really excited for Dying Wish which concludes with 700. Dan is actually talking about going into hiding after 700 comes out, I don't know if I should be worried about that or not. It sounds like he plans on deconstructing something in a major way, I only hope he puts it all back together before he ends his run instead of leaving it for someone else to pick up the pieces.

And if I had to guess, I think we are going to see Norman Osborn make his return to ASM soon.

 

[Will Nolte]

And if I had to guess, I think we are going to see Norman Osborn make his return to ASM soon.

I hope not. Let him stay a pile of goo for a while longer. I kinda like where this is going...

Spoiler

Doc Ock is possibly looking at his final days...finally, Lizard has a new dynamic in that it is Doc Connors in control, Jackal is gonna be causing some more trouble, and the Original Hobgoblin (Kingsley) is coming back to kick some new Hobby (Urich) ass.