The Clinton Thread

[Zen]

Ummm....wow

Bill looks ridiculous, but in an awesome sort of way... Hillary's glasses destroy whatever is going on there.


Don't worry excell, people will be looking back on your pictures and saying...Wow...

 

[The Senator]

They never knew what was normal; Bill was from a wealthy family and was a Rhodes scholar. Hilary was from a wealthy family and had a very strong career herself. Only the rich ever lead first world countries.

Um... Bill's parents owned a small grocery store which didn't bring much wealth to his family. He actually earned his way to Georgetown, then Oxford and Yale, on his academic performance alone. Then he worked for a few campaigns, before successfully running for Governor of Arkansas.

Hillary's parents owned a textile plant, which brought her family moderate wealth. They paid for her tuition at Wellesley, but she had to pay her way through law school. Of course, she rode her way to where she is now on Bill's back, so her story isn't nearly as admirable as his.

 

[Kelly]

Also, knowing someone is a great way to get into a campaign for someone.......its alot about who ya know......if ya know the right people.....doesn't really matter what your background is as far as education. The people traveling with them, as we have witnessed from the foot and mouth disease coming from both campaigns, they aren't the smartest people around.....they had to have known someone...lol

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

The people traveling with them, as we have witnessed from the foot and mouth disease coming from both campaigns, they aren't the smartest people around.....they had to have known someone...lol

Never have you spoken greater truth. I've always wondered where they get these dummies from...especially considering the large amount of $$$ and resources they have to get smarter support in place.

 

[The Senator]

Unpaid? So you really must believe in her huh? And no, I'm not trying to be sarcastic at all here.

That was the position they were hiring for. I already had a paid position at the university I attend, and really just wanted something good on a resume.

 

[The Senator]

TELL ME WHERE THE BODIES ARE?!!?!?!??!?!!




But srsly... how much a punch in the gut is it to see her now fumble for a new lie?

Well, they're both liars, but she just happens to suck at it more.

 

[Kelly]

Um... Bill's parents owned a small grocery store which didn't bring much wealth to his family. He actually earned his way to Georgetown, then Oxford and Yale, on his academic performance alone. Then he worked for a few campaigns, before successfully running for Governor of Arkansas.

Hillary's parents owned a textile plant, which brought her family moderate wealth. They paid for her tuition at Wellesley, but she had to pay her way through law school. Of course, she rode her way to where she is now on Bill's back, so her story isn't nearly as admirable as his.

Bill's grandparents owned the grocery store, his dad died before he was born, and his mom became a nurse. So no, he did not in any way come from a wealthy family.....lol

 

[redfirebird2008]

Well, they're both liars, but she just happens to suck at it more.

LOL, nice way of putting it. t:

 

[Marx]

I'm asking if you really think all politician's wealth is "deserved"

With regard to the Clintons - Yes. The majority of it is from speaking engagements and book sales.

 

[The Senator]

Bill's grandparents owned the grocery store, his dad died before he was born, and his mom became a nurse. So no, he did not in any way come from a wealthy family.....lol

D'oh! Botched facts again...

But at any rate, he went to school on his own merits and scholarships, and became a successful politician based on his academic success and ambition.

 

[Marx]

Obama is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Obama would have been criticized for taking advantage of the obvious if he showed up. He gave a great speech in Indianapolis (where Bobby Kennedy delivered the news of MLK's death and there were no riots in that city b/c of RFK's speech) to many white people instead of preaching to the choir in Memphis. I think MLK would be proud of him for reaching out to a different demographic on that day and trying to spread MLK's message to a more diverse audience. Obama went and spoke at Ebenezer Baptist Church (MLK's church) on the weekend of MLK's birthday. It was a more private event than this most recent thing in Memphis.

Meanwhile, Hillary claims that when she saw MLK as a child, he changed her heart. Yet she was against the civil rights acts of the mid-1960's and was a "Goldwater Girl" at that point. Goldwater was a segregationist a-hole. If MLK had really changed her heart, she would have supported those pieces of civil rights legislation. She didn't change until she got to college, at which point she was part of the College Republicans and had an epiphany at some point.

McCain showed some balls going there to admit he was wrong, but it was straight up political pandering, just like Hillary. Having a black guy holding the umbrella didn't help his cause at all. Some analysts have suggested that he was doing it to win whites that are tired of the Republican Party ignoring blacks. He knows he won't win the black vote (88% for Kerry in '04) so it wasn't so much that as it was trying to get a potential campaign issue out of the way and pandering to whites that want the party to broaden its appeal.

What???!? No offense, but...that was a silly comment.

I was just responding to a comment about how some said it was "inappropriate it was for Hillary to be smiling at the event." To which I said that McCain having an African-American hold his umbrella over his head for him or Obama not even bothering to show up, seems a little bit worse than someone smiling. While I do agree about Obama, it is a fine line to walk.

I still :heart: you though.

Aww...thanks!

 

[Gilpesh]

Well, they're both liars, but she just happens to suck at it more.

Well, she also seems to rely on it more.

 

[redfirebird2008]

This is kind of embarrassing:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/06/BAAU1006M1.DTL

Money swing: In the wake of her Super Tuesday barnstorming, Hillary Rodham Clinton left a stack of unpaid bills here in California - with at least $40,000 still owed to four of the state's universities.

UC Santa Barbara is owed $11,112, UC Davis is owed $5,486, Cal State Northridge in L.A. County is waiting for $13,611, and San Diego State, $10,000 - all for the use of halls for Clinton rallies.

The UC Davis tab includes the cost of hosting former President Bill Clinton before a crowd of 7,800 at the student arena on Jan. 15 - with some money still owned to the school band, Cal Aggie Marching Band-Uh.

The cash-strapped Clinton campaign recently acknowledged putting off paying hundreds of bills across the country.

UC Davis spokesman Mitchel Benson said they've contacted the Clinton campaign three times seeking payment. If the money doesn't show up within the next month, "it will go to a collection agency," Benson said.

We asked the Clinton campaign for comment Friday and are still awaiting a response.

Universities are gonna send bill collectors after the Clinton campaign? Ouch.

 

[Malice]

I cant understand who would want Bill to speak to them...let alone pay him
I would be afraid for my daughters

 

[Excel]

What's wrong with this that makes you say "wow"?

Nothing is wrong, they just sure as hell dont look like a future first couple. Bills hair is cool but Hillary looks...ehhh

 

[Doctor Strange]

To which I said that McCain having an African-American hold his umbrella over his head for him

I suspect the man is an American, and not an African-American.

 

[rdh007]

I suspect the man is an American, and not an African-American.

A great and honorable American if he's been allowed to hold an umbrella over one of our great patriots. Perhaps the greatest patriot. Ever.

However, the greatest honor will surely come to whoever gets to change the First Diapers.

 

[redfirebird2008]

A great and honorable American if he's been allowed to hold an umbrella over one of our great patriots. Perhaps the greatest patriot. Ever.

However, the greatest honor will surely come to whoever gets to change the First Diapers.

 

[redfirebird2008]

LOL, Hillary went bowling on Ellen's show today. Turns out she's just as bad as Obama! ROFL.

http://ellen.warnerbros.com/

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

*sigh*

I know this has nothing to do with anything but....GOOD GOD IS SHE STILL IN THE RACE??!?!

 

[Marx]

*sigh*

I know this has nothing to do with anything but....GOOD GOD IS SHE STILL IN THE RACE??!?!

Yes she is Lightning...as she should be.

 

[Marx]

I cant understand who would want Bill to speak to them...let alone pay him
I would be afraid for my daughters

Some of us actually admire and respect Bill Clinton Malice.

 

[Superman]

Some of us actually admire and respect Bill Clinton Malice.

Amen.

I'm not for Hillary in this race but I would love to meet Bill and shake his hand.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

With regard to the Clintons - Yes. The majority of it is from speaking engagements and book sales.

ok.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Some of us actually admire and respect Bill Clinton Malice.

I admire and respect Bill Clinton.
I also happen to know he is a politician, a politician that happens to be human, flawed.

so, while you might think that the majority of his wealth comes from speaking arrangements, therefore it is "deserved" then, I hope when some shady deals featuring a politician you don't like come forth you will be able to be as pragmatic.