The Clinton Thread

[Matt]

Chelseas much like her father than mother when it comes to how she interacts with people, she could defiently go far.

I don't like this notion any more than I like the notion of Prescott Bush. We shouldn't have elite families ruling our country.

When their 27, yes.

Why? Why do we need to know what the children of someone who was once prominent thinks of their parent's morality? It is not a fair question.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Why? Why do we need to know what the children of someone who was once prominent thinks of their parent's morality? It is not a fair question.

questions are seldom fair in journalism.
nowadays even more so.
they can ask, and we can say " that's wrong" and she can choose to NOT answer, just as she did.

 

[Superman]

I don't think she's off limits but I also don't think she has to answer personal questions about her parent's marriage either.

Now, As for the question she was asked. That wasn't really about her parent's marriage, It was more about Hillary's image since the Lewisnky affair.

I didn't see nothing wrong with that question and I think she should have handle it better than she did.

I liked the answer she gave, It was just the wrong answer to THAT question.

 

[Zen]

I dont think Chelsea is off limits either, but the question is ******ed.

who cares... its in bad taste.

there are honestly other things to fixate on with politicians than this garbage.

 

[The Senator]

I don't think she's off limits but I also don't think she has to answer personal questions about her parent's marriage either.

Now, As for the question she was asked. That wasn't really about her parent's marriage, It was more about Hillary's image since the Lewisnky affair.

I didn't see nothing wrong with that question and I think she should have handle it better than she did.

I liked the answer she gave, It was just the wrong answer to THAT question.

Again, if Michelle Obama or his children were asked if Obama's cocaine use and marijuana use makes him incredulous, should they be required to answer that question?

 

[StrainedEyes]

http://break.com/index/the-truth-behind-hillary-in-bosnia.html

 

[raybia]

http://break.com/index/the-truth-behind-hillary-in-bosnia.html

classic!

 

[MaskedManJRK]

It really was a stupid question: it was about a decade-old scandal that Bill stupidly made into a public situation by lying about his involvement. I see no real reason as to what it has to do with anything.

 

[kainedamo]

Her comments aren't racist. She didn't say "Obama will be an awful President because he's black." She said she didn't think he'd be where he is because he's black. And her statement had a lot of truth to it, as idiotic as it was for her to say it.

Should she have said it? Absolutely not. Should Clinton condemn it? Yes. Is it racist? Hardly.

The ironic thing is, it was probably very difficult for Obama to climb up to where he is now because of his skin colour.

 

[The Senator]

The ironic thing is, it was probably very difficult for Obama to climb up to where he is now because of his skin colour.

I wouldn't say that. He won election to the Illinois State Senate in a predominantly black district, and won election to the United States Senate with 70% of the vote. Granted, he was up against a flimsy candidate, but he led Jack Ryan in opinion polls by twenty points shortly before Ryan dropped out of the race. So I don't see where he's had a hard time getting elected because he's African American.

 

[kainedamo]

I'm not talking about winning votes with black voters (they're voting 'cause they're black and don't think he's the better candidate??).

I'm talking about becoming a senator. Getting to where he is that he can even decide to run for President. Can't have been easy.

 

[kainedamo]

So Clinton and Obama are liars. Color me suprised.

Obama denying he was aware of a Pastor's questionable opinions can hardly be compared to Hillary boasting about being under sniper fire.

 

[Darthphere]

Obama denying he wasn't aware of a Pastor's questionable opinions can hardly be compared to Hillary boasting about being under sniper fire.

Sure it can. What a ridiculous statement when Obama himself has said he was "aware" of the comments.

 

[kainedamo]

Sure it can. What a ridiculous statement when Obama himself has said he was "aware" of the comments.

Did Obama not say he wouldn't have went to the church if the guy was preaching that kind of stuff there?

Meh.

 

[Darthphere]

Did Obama not say he wouldn't have went to the church if the guy was preaching that kind of stuff there?

Meh.

That's what he initially said then he came out with "I was aware of those comments" and that he wasn't there when he said them.

 

[Zen]

Again, if Michelle Obama or his children were asked if Obama's cocaine use and marijuana use makes him incredulous, should they be required to answer that question?

Obama's children are not 27 years old.

Michelle Obama would answer the question by referencing what her husband said about his own drug use... in his book.

i still don't think the original question posed to chelsea is important at all, neither is this comparison.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Again, if Michelle Obama or his children were asked if Obama's cocaine use and marijuana use makes him incredulous, should they be required to answer that question?

Michelle and Chelsea both open themselves up to any and all questions by campaigning for their family members, but the great thing about this country is that they can both simply refuse to answer the question. Chelsea handled it great.

 

[Cosmic]

Obama's children are not 27 years old.

Yeah I agree, that comparison falls a bit short.

And for my 2 cents...Chelsea is not off-limits anymore, but that doesn't mean that she has to answer rude or obnoxious questions. And yet, she must have expected to have to deal with this sort of stuff once she started campaigning with her parents. It's not her fault, but then again, nobody's forcing her to do this.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

No one asked the Bush twins if their father's credibility was was injured because he received a DUI. A candidate's personal life has nothing to do with politics; give it a rest.

Then someone should ask Barack Obama's daughters if they think daddy's a bad person because he snorted cocaine and smoked marijuana when he was younger.

These are really bad examples because both sets of daughters weren't/aren't actively campaigning for their parents. Chelsea is, that's the difference. I don't see what's wrong with the question, it sheds a light Hillary's private life, if she's willing to overlook her husband's many infidelities, what else is she willing to overlook? How is it any different than bringing up Obama's pastor? These are things in his personal life that people seem to think will have/had an impact on his professional life.

 

[Addendum]

Then ask the question of Hillary

 

[bell110]

To answer the question, no she is not off limits, but she doesn't have to answer anything she doesn't want to.

Was it a rude question, yes, but there is no law that people can't ask rude questions. It was a dumb question in that Hillary's credability is subjective. Some people admire that she stuck with her husband after he cheated, others feel she's dumb for not leaving him.

It's interesting because questions about Monica are going to start happening more frequently. How should Hillary or Bill respond to these questions if asked to them? Be more open and honest about it, or go with no comment?

Also, to Memphis or anyone else, will there be a double standard in the right? Remember when Bush was campaigning, his past drug and alcohol abuse was off limits because "it was in the past". And the **** really hit the fan when Kerry brought up Chaney's lesbian daughter. The right was outraged that he would bring up something so personal. Do you guys think that the right will unfairly harp on the Monica thing?

 

[Addendum]

Do you guys think that the right will harp on the Monica thing?

Does a bear **** in the woods?

 

[redfirebird2008]

Does a bear **** in the woods?

What's funny is that's the exact one-liner I was thinking when I read his question. t:

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Do you guys think that the right will unfairly harp on the Monica thing?

Does a bear sh** in the woods?

What's funny is that's the exact one-liner I was thinking when I read his question. t:

I was thinking "****ing DUH," actually.

 

[The Senator]

I'm not talking about winning votes with black voters (they're voting 'cause they're black and don't think he's the better candidate??).

I'm talking about becoming a senator. Getting to where he is that he can even decide to run for President. Can't have been easy.

Um, since he won 70% of the vote in Illinois when he was elected in 2004... yeah, I'd say it was just about a cakewalk for him.

And since the media saw his speech and said "oh, wow, this was sooo good... good words mean he can the president!"... yeah, he's had it pretty damn easy since before he was even a Senator...

As for the black remarks, he was running in a predominantly black district, he won the primary... African Americans tend to elect African American politicians, especially in districts which are 75-90% black... once he won the election, re-election was a cakewalk for him too when he was in the IL State Senate.