The Dark Knight The Dark (British) Knight

[Red Rose]

I came across this thread from IMBD

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/board/nest/79648305

and here is the original post: -

I know this was probably discussed about at length during the first movie, but it irritates me to no end that this Christopher Nolan has the audacity to hire a bunch on his UK chums to play the parts of Americans. How big of a deal would the Brits be making if, say, George Clooney, or Brad Pitt were cast in place of Daniel Craig for the Casino Royale movie? They would have been delirious with anger. Why is it that we Americans seem to let the world of actors (Bale, Oldman, Ledger, Neeson, Tom Wilkinson, Cillian Murphy) play American characters? Hell, even Bruce's dad in the first movie is a Brit! A bit excessive, almost like Nolan was daring the American public to be able to tell the difference, snubbing his nose at us. I left Michael Caine out of the argument since, well, HIS PART SHOULD BE PLAYED BY A BRIT! Neeson's character in the first film i have less of a problem with as his characters' past is unknown, and he doesn't try to fake an American accent in "Begins". Think of the movie "Next Of Kin" with Patrick Swayze to see his bad American accent in action! On that subject, Tom Wikinson was the worst, Oldman was tolerable, barely, but i still knew, which affected my enjoyment of the movie.
I'm not knocking the final product of the film, as it was good, just the execution of it. In the back of my mind while watching the first movie two years ago, i knew they were Brits, except Neeson and Murphy, a couple of micks like myself, close enough. The discerning linguist can hear the forced "R's" when a Brit tries to speak in American accent. It's the difference between "The Joker", and "The Joe-kerr", too much emphasis on the R! It drives me nuts. Enough with my rant. I'm sure the next film will be good, Im annoyed that Nolan is now looking towards Australia for his actors (ledger), and I'll still be annoyed that the Americans that are in the film will only be in the periphery, rather than in the focus of the film.

Is this a relevant criticism for anyone else?

 

[Kebab gud]

Its a wasted argument.. americans play brits in 1000000 times more movies then brits play americans..

 

[Two-Face]

Ledger is a Aussie, he ain't American but it doesn't matter what the nationally is because these actors can do fecking job.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Uh...no. No, it isn't.

I couldn't give two tugs of a dead dog's c**k if they're American or not. Hell, as long as they put on a good accent and just do the role as best as they humanly can, I really couldn't give a f**k.

 

[MacBoon]

Completely agree with you guys. doesn't matter where they're from, just as long as they get the job done.

 

[wikum]

what a ridiculous post!

 

[Juanigi]

yo can we pretend the imdb forums don't exist

 

[Kryptonian Warrior]

Isnt that what being an ACTOR is all about? Making people believe that the ACTOR is someone the ACTOR is not? Notice the emphasis on ACTOR.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

yo can we pretend the imdb forums don't exist

Indeed--they make baby Jesus weep.

 

[Qwerty©]

The characters aren't british, so it doesn't matter if the actors are. It's their job to be someone else, that's why they're called actors.

End of discussion.

 

[The Mighty Wind]

Uh...no. No, it isn't.

I couldn't give two tugs of a dead dog's c**k if they're American or not. Hell, as long as they put on a good accent and just do the role as best as they humanly can, I really couldn't give a f**k.

That sounds about right.

 

[Crook]

The characters aren't british, so it doesn't matter if the actors are. It's their job to be someone else, that's why they're called actors.

He does have a point about the Bond argument though.

 

[Qwerty©]

He does have a point about the Bond argument though.

Bond is different, he is a British icon and who is cast is as big a part of the character as his cars, gadgets and love interests.

All Batman needs is a costume, gadgets, moody atmosphere and a colourful rogues gallery.

 

[Crook]

You forget that Batman is an American icon first and foremost.

I just think we're more tolerable to British actors since they immerse themselves so well in their roles.

 

[MAKIEVELLI]

Bond is different, he is a British icon and who is cast is as big a part of the character as his cars, gadgets and love interests.

All Batman needs is a costume, gadgets, moody atmosphere and a colourful rogues gallery.

That's true, Batman's Americanism isn't nearly as integral as Superman's.

 

[Qwerty©]

You forget that Batman is an American icon first and foremost.

Not really. His character doesn't scream 'America' in the same way Superman does, and I say this as someone outside the US.

 

[Juanigi]

if anything it would have been interesting to have them do it in their natural accents and see how many people cried about it

they'd probably just be furious that morgan freeman didn't do an english accent to fit in

 

[MAKIEVELLI]

Not really. His character doesn't scream 'America' in the same way Superman does, and I say this as someone outside the US.

Exactly, I said the same thing in my previous post.

 

[Crook]

That's true, Batman's Americanism isn't nearly as integral as Superman's.

No, but that doesn't he mean isn't one. He's an American character that has reached worldwide status, that's all.

 

[Qwerty©]

No, but that doesn't he mean isn't one. He's an American character that has reached worldwide status, that's all.

But he's not recognised as being inherently american. Not like James Bond, where he is viewed all over the world as a british thing.

 

[Changeling]

stupid post!

 

[COMPO]

to be honest it woudl be wierd to see an American as bond, but, if the actor was good and the story was proper Bond then, it wouldn't make a difference and it shouldn't make a difference with Batman. Bale did a great job and so did the other actors so why ***** about it?

 

[Rorschach2012]

Stupid- Ass post!

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I came across this thread from IMBD

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/board/nest/79648305

and here is the original post: -

I know this was probably discussed about at length during the first movie, but it irritates me to no end that this Christopher Nolan has the audacity to hire a bunch on his UK chums to play the parts of Americans. How big of a deal would the Brits be making if, say, George Clooney, or Brad Pitt were cast in place of Daniel Craig for the Casino Royale movie? They would have been delirious with anger. Why is it that we Americans seem to let the world of actors (Bale, Oldman, Ledger, Neeson, Tom Wilkinson, Cillian Murphy) play American characters? Hell, even Bruce's dad in the first movie is a Brit! A bit excessive, almost like Nolan was daring the American public to be able to tell the difference, snubbing his nose at us. I left Michael Caine out of the argument since, well, HIS PART SHOULD BE PLAYED BY A BRIT! Neeson's character in the first film i have less of a problem with as his characters' past is unknown, and he doesn't try to fake an American accent in "Begins". Think of the movie "Next Of Kin" with Patrick Swayze to see his bad American accent in action! On that subject, Tom Wikinson was the worst, Oldman was tolerable, barely, but i still knew, which affected my enjoyment of the movie.
I'm not knocking the final product of the film, as it was good, just the execution of it. In the back of my mind while watching the first movie two years ago, i knew they were Brits, except Neeson and Murphy, a couple of micks like myself, close enough. The discerning linguist can hear the forced "R's" when a Brit tries to speak in American accent. It's the difference between "The Joker", and "The Joe-kerr", too much emphasis on the R! It drives me nuts. Enough with my rant. I'm sure the next film will be good, Im annoyed that Nolan is now looking towards Australia for his actors (ledger), and I'll still be annoyed that the Americans that are in the film will only be in the periphery, rather than in the focus of the film.

Is this a relevant criticism for anyone else?

No, it makes no diffeerence to me whatsoever...

 

[Stringer]

As long as they can act I couldnt care less what their nationality is.