The Dark Knight Can The Dark Knight win an Oscar

[kpjoon]

If The Prestige gets an Oscar... there's a a small bit of hope.

 

[fabman]

JBElliot. AFTER BATMAN BEGINS ya still waiting for a real Batman movie? MHHH, what ya have? What did u take? cocaine, marijuana?

 

[Poetic Chaos]

A real Batman movie would have spandex. I'm sorry, but ninjas dont wear rubber that immobilizes them. Why even bother with stealth if your suit is made to withstand a nuclear blast.

 

[fabman]

omg

 

[XCharlieX]

omg

Im with you. :

i mean really.

 

[jmc]

Funny reading some of these, found this way back when and thought I'd bump it up. Anyone change their opinion?

 

[JokerLedger]

If TDK or Heath Ledger doesn't get nominated or win an oscar, I think we're going to see a huge legion of professionals in the industry who won't be able to take the oscars seriously anymore. Just my opinion though.

 

[kyuubijavi1]

this movie can get alot of Oscar nods

Heath for sure will get one winning it I hope he does and i think he deserves it
Music might be one it can win
Special effects
coustume design / make up might get a nod
best script might get a nod (i mean if Juno can win damn it this movie better get nominated at the least)
best film should get a nod even though i doubt it
best director should get a nod

so tdk can and might get nominated for around 4 - 6 things

 

[baerrtt]

I posted in the spoilers part of the forum that (whether there are ppl here or anywhere who feel the film 'deserves' it or not) the Academy have a history where they've recognised genre films that are huge commercial and critical successess(like TDK appears to be) that transcend their roots (ppl who don't normally like/watch/take seriously that genre find a film whereby their prejudices are wiped away by how good the product is).

Before THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS came mainstream American horror movies were perceived (particularly during the 80s) as nothing more than makeup/special effects gorefests that appealed to a demographic of teenage boys and nobody else. Unless it was directed by Cronenberg (whose films didn't exactly set the box office alight) critics sure as heck weren't heaping praise on many genre entries. Then came that movie that seemingly appealed to both the teenage gorehounds AND the adult audience (particularly women) thus creating a film that ended up with a bigger box office take domestically than any one entry from the Elm Street/ Friday the 13th films PLUS general critical approval from across the board. The Academy noticed and despite being released in February 1991 a year later it became (to the surprise of those who don't follow the Oscar predictions) the big Oscar winner.

Likewise though it didn't win on the night (though IMO it deserved to) look at CROUCHING TIGER HIDDEN DRAGON. If you think the Academy doesn't/won't take comic book movies seriously do you think that other Action subgenre the martial arts movie would ever see a film from it's ranks become the 2nd most Oscar nominated movie of the year including a Best Picture nod? A genre that counted it's commercial appeal (in the West) from video rather than cinema. A genre that even with the artistry of Bruce Lee and the bravery verging on stupid antics of Jackie Chan most mainstream critics(particularly those who didn't grow up with them) refused to like. Yet in 2000 a respected director gave us a film that appealed to nearly EVERYBODY thus creating a bigger box office take than any movie in the genre had achieved.

I could also use this with ROTK but the point is whilst it may not happen never count out what the Academy will honour in the future because previous form indicates that, if the movie is seen as a superior or different example of it's kind AND is able to break box office records for it's genre at the same time it's got it's going to be a MAJOR contender come Oscar night.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

As for a Best Picture nomination, I have no doubt this movie will rank with anything else this year in terms of its complexity, depth, scope and quality of acting and direction. But ultimately the Academy will just snub their collective nose at it because after all, it's just a comic book movie.

 

[CJWilkie]

I can totally see Nolan getting best director, or a nomination at the very, very least, if this film is as well constructed as people are saying it is (I still haven't seen it)

 

[Keyser Soze]

I think that, however deserving it might be, "The Dark Knight" winning the likes of Best Picture or Best Director is still unlikely. However, I think it's feasible that it could be at least NOMINATED.

 

[db85usa]

Theres a first time for everything though.

Like many have said, this is probably the only comic book movie that may have a chance simply because of it's realism.

If LOTR can win oscars, I think The Dark Knight can too

 

[samsnee]

If the Oscars want to increase their ratings, they'll be smart to nominate this movie for something other than a technical award. Ratings generally go up when there's at least one big blockbuster nominated for a major award.

I would give Ledger a nomination based solely on two scenes: His first confrontation with the mobsters, and the interrogation scene where he talks about the chips being down. He didn't play it over the top like most actors would, he played it real.

 

[Fenrir]

Not really. Spider-Man had heart and is someone everyone can relate to. Spider-Man 2 was not only an action movie, but so a romance movie, which upped the appeal to just about anyone. Spider-Man 2 was one of the best reviewed movies of 2004, if not the best. It wasn't just a popcorn movie, because SM2 had alot of substance.

I absolutely agree. Spider-Man 2 may not be ultimately as good as TDK (it's on par with BB though), but it still ranks in the top 5 superhero films ever made. Not to mention it has one of the coolest, most thrilling fight sequences the genre has ever seen.

 

[jmc]

As for a Best Picture nomination, I have no doubt this movie will rank with anything else this year in terms of its complexity, depth, scope and quality of acting and direction. But ultimately the Academy will just snub their collective nose at it because after all, it's just a comic book movie.

It's a little different this time though, as was mentioned a few posts above every so often a film comes along that transcends it's genre and rises to a new level, The Dark Knight is that film. The Academy gets a bad rap for not recognizing mainstream film, but I think most of the time they are correct in the films they nominate (although the absence of Zodiac from nomination last year still baffles me). It's not up to the Academy to recognize mainstream films just for the sake of it, it's up the directors and the studios to produce mainstream films that are good enough to be recognized. Nolan has done that here, he's produced a great film with an intelligent story, the type of film studios think there isn't an audience for. I think it maybe a very different Oscars next year, you may even see Wall-E get a look in as well judging by how well that's been received.

 

[DieSmiling]

I think Heath will win for Joker, I think Wally will win for Cinemetography, and I think it has a chance for sound, sound editing, and special effects.

Outside shot at Nolan being nominated for best director.

 

[Hole Shot]

I think that, however deserving it might be, "The Dark Knight" winning the likes of Best Picture or Best Director is still unlikely. However, I think it's feasible that it could be at least NOMINATED.

I think it is totally within reason at this point for it to get a best picture nom.



A little FYI about the Oscars everybody...

The studio doesn't just make a movie and then hope the Academy likes it. The studios aggressively campaign for the films, cast and crew to get award consideration.

And they wine and dine the members of the Hollywood Foreign Press which determine the Golden Globes.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

If ROTK can win one, I think TDK has a great chance.

 

[Sentinel X]

People seem bitter towards not nominating a comic book movie but seriously name me one comic book movie that deserved to be oscar nominated prior to The Dark Knight...all I can think of is Batman Begins.
The people at the oscars frankly haven't seen oscar material yet from the comic book genre so how can you call them snobs?...sure theres been good comic book film but nothing oscar-material. The Dark Knight is new and fresh and it will take some nominations people just love it too much.

I think a poster made an excellent example with Silence of the Lambs. Some genres seem to not be love but there always comes a director who knows how it works and releases a film that everyone falls in love with. The Dark Knight will end up with a 'best supporting actor' nomination (ALTHOUGH, people have been saying 'Im not saying it bcause Heath is dead...its cause he deserves it! He better win or I'll be mad'...yeah please, you're saying it cause hes dead, he did an excellent performance but hell the year isn't over and people have already chosen a winner...but that aside ) and possibly a 'best director' nomination...as well as 'best picture'
Thats a huge step for the CB genre.

 

[Kurt Wagner]

Even though the Academy doesn't take comicbook movies seriously, there's no doubt that it can be nominated for categories like best soundtrack, effects, editing, sound, etc.

Whether or not Heath Ledger gets a nomination or not, who ever wins will probably recognize Heath's performance in their speech. Heck they will definitely do somethign to recognize Heath's performance.

Also, many people feel The Dark knight felt more like a crime drama than a comc book film, so maybe the Academy might take the film more seriously than films like Spider-Man 2. Not likely, but maybe.

 

[Krypton Girl]

Crash won. CRASH. The Dark Knight can take an Oscar or two if Crash can win.

 

[DACrowe]

It will be nominated for best supporting actor, adapted screenplay, visual effects, editing and cinematography. It has a LONG shot at a nomination for best director and a slim-to-none chance to being nominated for best picture (thought it deserves it). I also think Eckhart deserves a nomination, but that will never happen.

 

[Anita18]

If the Oscars want to increase their ratings, they'll be smart to nominate this movie for something other than a technical award. Ratings generally go up when there's at least one big blockbuster nominated for a major award.

I have to agree.

The Academy is quickly losing public relevancy, and it would be in their own interests to nominate TDK for some non-technical awards if they don't want to see their TV ratings drop through the basement.

I'm sure they will nominate Heath for supporting actor and Wally for cinematography. Everything else, we'll just have to see.

 

[jmc]

It will be nominated for best supporting actor, adapted screenplay, visual effects, editing and cinematography. It has a LONG shot at a nomination for best director and a slim-to-none chance to being nominated for best picture (thought it deserves it). I also think Eckhart deserves a nomination, but that will never happen.

I think you're underestimating the films chances for the big nominations, the film is too good to ignore and the Academy will know this because they know they are seen as elitist when it comes to mainstream films (although to be fair, there have been very few mainstream film recently that are good enough to warrant any recognition). I wouldn't discount Eckhart chances just yet though, he won't win but definitely deserves a nod.