I think Gunn has always enjoyed being a bit prickly and maybe a bit edgy in his 'hot takes'. I like the guy, but I see that as a symptom of him being a 'terminally online' type.
I could also see Gunn feeling that Affleck's Batman on paper and aesthetically is a good starting point for his - all it needs some tweaking to make what he sees as an accurate, definitive Batman. No killing, less bitter, etc. And like you said, with a surrounding group around him to help ground and sand him down when needed.
They're very different. I love them both, btw. And Tim Burton's Batman, too.
I wouldn't make such baseless assumptions, either.
Yeah, I mean, you should see Tarantino's favourite films.
Or those he doesn't like , lol
But love the convo.
Okay, yeah, as much as i've been a supporter of Gunns, I can't agree with this take here at all. I think all filmmakers have the right to do their own spin or take on the material. It's what helps separate it from past iterations! The most important thing is to respect the source material, but so long as you do that, A filmmaker should always bring something fresh and new along with it.I stirred the pot a bit by bringing up those comments.
I saw a new interview today with Gunn about Superman where the interviewer talks about how the movie is unabashedly comic booky, and Gunn says he finds it pretentious when comic book films shy away from that. I liked Superman btw, I think there’s a chance I’ll like it even more on a second viewing. But Gunn does make me roll my eyes sometimes. IMO being a gatekeepy comic book fan, snubbing your nose at massive films that got millions of people excited about the character is what ends up feeling even more pretentious. Just had to say it. I just never care for filmmakers bashing other filmmakers. I don’t like it when Tarantino does it either, and I love Tarantino. Nolan made a dry cheeky comment about Returns once, that’s true. But he also always called Burton’s first film visionary and brilliant. That’s the key— he may not even be the biggest fan of Batman 89, but he still understood its importance.
I liked Superman for the record and I dig the Guardians films, so obviously it doesn’t matter and it’s natural for different filmmakers to like different things. But I do think it’s an interesting thing here, because the whole premise of Donner’s Superman movie was the verisimilitude- bringing Superman into our world, ‘You’ll believe a man can fly’, etc. Then Nolan emulated that with his Batman films- with a character honestly even more naturally suited for that type of cinematic representation. So you have all that history with two iconic versions of the characters following that tradition, and now you have the creative figurehead of DC doing the polar opposite- we jump into a world full of metahumans and it’s just Tuesday for the people in this universe. And you absolutely feel the difference in the two approaches. I accept that both are valid. Always have. But I also am aware at the end of the day, which one always has the potential to resonate with me more. It’s not just about “I want my superheroes to be REALISTIC dammit!”— nah, it’s because the whole style of filmmaking is different, and usually more emotionally engrossing for me. Maybe it’s just because I came to these characters through movies and TV first and he clearly was reading comics as a kid. Regardless, we would not be where we are now with the “anything goes” state of this genre that Gunn has made a career playing in without all the key films that paved the way.
Like I said though, ever since Snyder’s universe took off, I’ve been thinking that DC desperately needs a new visionary will try something new and not feel beholden to what worked in the past. So we got that and I think Gunn seems to be the guy for the job, to a T. For better or worse.
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I'm gonna grab it honestly lol. I didn't get the collectors versions you mentioned, though I came close to. But I'll definitely end up grabbing this. I own them on 4k and Blu ray, but I love these films so much I don't mind spending money one last time on them lol.Christopher Nolan’s Superhero Trilogy Celebrates 20 Years With a Brand New 4K Collection
Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy is getting a new 4K collection for its 20th anniversary. Here’s what we know.
Oof. I just recently splurged on those collector's versions too. Think I'll have to draw the line here. I already own these movies 4x over lol. They'd probably have my money if there were any new retrospective special features. Looks pretty nice though.
I gotta say, I know it’s petty to dig up old comments and I know Gunn seems like he’s changed a lot from the days he was constantly sh**posting online especially post-cancellation, but I can’t lie it does kinda bum me out a bit to know that the new architect of DC film has such low opinions of all bunch of my favorite DC films (and is so tragically incorrect
I do think DC needs a fresh voice badly, so maybe in a way it’s a good thing that he views things so differently, but I also hope he at least now recognizes the importance and significance of those films given that he’s inheriting a legacy that they helped build, at least cinematically. It’s subjective at the end of the day and I know both Burton and Nolan are miles away from his sensibilities, but you can still recognize and respect them without them being your favorites.
I'm a huge fan of Gunn's and I don't agree with Gunn's take on Tim Burton's Batman at all. And that's perfectly fine, and doesn't matter in the slightest.
