The Flash The Eddie-Eobard Connection

[mr. peasant]

I'm surprised this hasn't really been brought up yet.

In Episode 15, Wells revealed/confirmed that he was Eobard Thawne, from the future, and that Eddie is a "distant relative" of him. The implications of this are huge. First of all, assuming a direct paternal lineage, that Wells is White indicates that Iris will not end up with Eddie in the future.

But aside from that, I wonder what Barry's reaction will be to this and what his interactions will be like with Eddie in the future. How does one react to the knowledge that a person's descendent from some point in the future will eventually come back to kill your own mother?

Incidentally, has Wells ever interacted with Eddie up until this point? Here's hoping that they do at some point soon. It would seem like an incredibly wasted opportunity if not.

 

[Mike Murdock]

The only interaction I recall is when Reverse Flash stopped just in front of Eddie but made no attempt to harm him.

 

[famicommander]

I still think Eddie is this show's Malcolm Thawne.

 

[Syncer]

Kreisberg said Eobard and Eddie will interact in the future and that will become a storyline. And Cosnett has been posting pictures of him and Cavangh will the word "secrets" being thrown around.

 

[Hulk1968]

Wells / Thawne said it himself that he's a "distant" relative of Eddie's from the future.

In the comics, he's from the 25th centurry. (canon)

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Eobard_Thawne_(New_Earth)

 

[Bathead]

I'm surprised this hasn't really been brought up yet.

In Episode 15, Wells revealed/confirmed that he was Eobard Thawne, from the future, and that Eddie is a "distant relative" of him. The implications of this are huge. First of all, assuming a direct paternal lineage, that Wells is White indicates that Iris will not end up with Eddie in the future.
But aside from that, I wonder what Barry's reaction will be to this and what his interactions will be like with Eddie in the future. How does one react to the knowledge that a person's descendent from some point in the future will eventually come back to kill your own mother?

Incidentally, has Wells ever interacted with Eddie up until this point? Here's hoping that they do at some point soon. It would seem like an incredibly wasted opportunity if not.

Just because Wells appears to be white, does not mean he doesn't have any black ancestors.

 

[Spooderman]

Yeah, he's from the 25th century, he'd be like 1/65536 black. People who are 1/8 black 7/8 white look white.

I don't think this will affect Eddie and Barry's relationship in any way. Eddie is not in control of what is distant descendants do. Also, I think Eobard exists regardless if Eddie had children or not in this new timeline.

 

[Kirmit]

Talking with a few friends of mine about this, one of them suggested that Wells may tutor Eddie into being another Reverse Flash, Wells will be killed off and Eddie will take over the mantle, though I don't think this is what will happen.

 

[spiderman2]

Talking with a few friends of mine about this, one of them suggested that Wells may tutor Eddie into being another Reverse Flash, Wells will be killed off and Eddie will take over the mantle, though I don't think this is what will happen.

So like a goblin JR lol.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Talking with a few friends of mine about this, one of them suggested that Wells may tutor Eddie into being another Reverse Flash, Wells will be killed off and Eddie will take over the mantle, though I don't think this is what will happen.

I think it's highly plausible that Eddie will become the Reverse Flash eventually. In fact, I could see him being this show's Hunter Zolomon.

 

[XDream]

I'm surprised this hasn't really been brought up yet.

In Episode 15, Wells revealed/confirmed that he was Eobard Thawne, from the future, and that Eddie is a "distant relative" of him. The implications of this are huge. First of all, assuming a direct paternal lineage, that Wells is White indicates that Iris will not end up with Eddie in the future.

But aside from that, I wonder what Barry's reaction will be to this and what his interactions will be like with Eddie in the future. How does one react to the knowledge that a person's descendent from some point in the future will eventually come back to kill your own mother?

Incidentally, has Wells ever interacted with Eddie up until this point? Here's hoping that they do at some point soon. It would seem like an incredibly wasted opportunity if not.

>_<

That is my reaction.

Iris goes on to date Barry that is kinda where they are going with this. Why would Iris even have children with Eddie at this point?

 

[Seb]

It's kinda weird coming into all this with my only Flash comics knowledge being Bart Allen (I've read all of Impulse, Young Justice, Bart's run on the Teen Titans and his short-lived career as the Flash). The only Thawnes I know that well are Bart's mother and Inertia, so this is all cool and new to me.

The whole Thawne vs. Allen/West rivalry is interesting, and I love that it essentially culminated in Bart (who I would love to see in the show some day.)

I think it'll be cool to see how much Wells actually knows about the past (given how much can be lost/changed over 500 years) and whether he is actively trying to change things or just realign them. I imagine that if Eddie is supposed to become a speedster, then Wells will manipulate him just like he's manipulating Barry in an effort to get more speed for himself. The different Reverse Flashes were never particularly co-operative, were they (Like I said, not that knowledgeable about Flash lore)?

 

[Kirmit]

I think it's highly plausible that Eddie will become the Reverse Flash eventually. In fact, I could see him being this show's Hunter Zolomon.

My problem with this theory is that Eddie seems like such a bland character, not nearly interesting enough to take over for Wells as RF. Granted they could make him more interesting but at this point his only motivation would be because of the Barry/Iris thing...

 

[mr. peasant]

Just because Wells appears to be white, does not mean he doesn't have any black ancestors.

Yeah, he's from the 25th century, he'd be like 1/65536 black. People who are 1/8 black 7/8 white look white.

I don't think this will affect Eddie and Barry's relationship in any way. Eddie is not in control of what is distant descendants do. Also, I think Eobard exists regardless if Eddie had children or not in this new timeline.

Of course. In real life.

TV/Movie/Fiction tends to take a simpler approach to time; treating any descendent no matter how distant as G2 rather than G50 or whatever n-th generation said descendent is, ignoring any and all changes the generations in between could introduce.

My problem with this theory is that Eddie seems like such a bland character, not nearly interesting enough to take over for Wells as RF. Granted they could make him more interesting but at this point his only motivation would be because of the Barry/Iris thing...

I wouldn't say so much as bland as rather underdeveloped; with his main traits being his relation to other side characters and that he's universally something of a "nice guy". For instance, remember his initial opposition to the Flash? That got reversed really quick.

 

[just one thing]

Of course. In real life.

TV/Movie/Fiction tends to take a simpler approach to time; treating any descendent no matter how distant as G2 rather than G50 or whatever n-th generation said descendent is, ignoring any and all changes the generations in between could introduce.




I wouldn't say so much as bland as rather underdeveloped; with his main traits being his relation to other side characters and that he's universally something of a "nice guy". For instance, remember his initial opposition to the Flash? That got reversed really quick.

What would a nice cop do with a manipulative speeder from the future with no problem killing. Attempt to stop him presumably, but if he does anything other than attempt to stop him then possibly he is something other than a nice guy.

 

[Eni]

I can't really say that I am that curious regarding the connection between the two of them. They are obviously relatives, Eddie is most likely his grand-grand-grand-grand-and so on-father, even thourh Eobard hasn't really spilled it yet. I don't think there will be such a big twist in this respect.

What I am much more curious about is whether Eddie is going to be a RF and whether this is an entirely new enemy to the Flash. What I mean is that Eobard existed already as the RF, he also has obviously some experienc with jumping through the timestream, but what is about his ancestor?

Was Eddie destinied to become a RF on his own from the start or is this maybe a side-effect of Eobards meddling with time and everything and thus creating an entirely new RF? Maybe someone who has not an (real) equivalent to the comic books? Someone exclusive to the show?

 

[mr. peasant]

I can't really say that I am that curious regarding the connection between the two of them. They are obviously relatives, Eddie is most likely his grand-grand-grand-grand-and so on-father, even thourh Eobard hasn't really spilled it yet. I don't think there will be such a big twist in this respect.

What I am much more curious about is whether Eddie is going to be a RF and whether this is an entirely new enemy to the Flash. What I mean is that Eobard existed already as the RF, he also has obviously some experienc with jumping through the timestream, but what is about his ancestor?

Was Eddie destinied to become a RF on his own from the start or is this maybe a side-effect of Eobards meddling with time and everything and thus creating an entirely new RF? Maybe someone who has not an (real) equivalent to the comic books? Someone exclusive to the show?

What would be an interesting twist would be if Wells/Eobard lets "slip" to Team Flash that Eddie is destined to become the Reverse Flash at some unspecified point in the future for an equally unspecified reason.

Which would lead to everyone getting paranoid around him, putting every action of his under a microscope, and driving a wedge between him and the others.

 

[Eni]

What would be an interesting twist would be if Wells/Eobard lets "slip" to Team Flash that Eddie is destined to become the Reverse Flash at some unspecified point in the future for an equally unspecified reason.

Which would lead to everyone getting paranoid around him, putting every action of his under a microscope, and driving a wedge between him and the others.

I think Eddie is going to take care of driving a wedge between him and the other all on his own in the next couple of episodes.

The trailer for them shows that he is really going to tick out. He is going to kill cops and punch Barry, so I am pretty sure they will not be that surprised when Eobard lets slip that Eddie is a possible RF.

Although, maybe he kills those guys without anybody picking up on it till the very end and it is understandable that he would be mad at Barry for the mess he and Iris are putting him through. So, it could very well be that Barry and the others are going to be very much blind-sided by Eddie if he really should get powers.

I would have liked them to do your idea, though. It would have made a very interesting story with a lot of potentially good drama.

 

[metaphysician]

Eh, I wouldn't assume that all the trailer spoilers are 100% forthright. Yes, Eddie could go bad enough to start randomly killing other cops. Alternatively, it could be an out-of-context clip included specifically to look like that. . . when in actuality, its not Eddie or not cops.

 

[Herolee10]

 

[Lencho01]

Did they make that themselves?

 

[Mightmitenot]

I'm surprised this hasn't really been brought up yet.

In Episode 15, Wells revealed/confirmed that he was Eobard Thawne, from the future, and that Eddie is a "distant relative" of him. The implications of this are huge. First of all, assuming a direct paternal lineage, that Wells is White indicates that Iris will not end up with Eddie in the future.

But aside from that, I wonder what Barry's reaction will be to this and what his interactions will be like with Eddie in the future. How does one react to the knowledge that a person's descendent from some point in the future will eventually come back to kill your own mother?

Incidentally, has Wells ever interacted with Eddie up until this point? Here's hoping that they do at some point soon. It would seem like an incredibly wasted opportunity if not.

Given the generations that pass between now and Wels time, Wells could have a aucasian appearance even with Irisas an ancestor.

 

[Ted]

If Iris ends up with Barry, and Wells is a descendant of Eddie, wouldn't Wells try hard to keep Eddie away from Iris, cause Iris being with Eddie means Eobard not being born at all.