The FFINO ZONE

[RAE072]

How come there's no accompanying blogging music?

That's the Meeting Victor track.

When they meet him he's pwning ****lords.

 

[starscream22]

It's amazing that, outside of a second in the 20th or so tv spot, we haven't heard one of the main characters SPEAK.

Yeah, shouldn't they be making they're rounds on talk shows to promote this thing right about now?

Perhaps Aug. 3rd then.

 

[starscream22]

That's the Meeting Victor track.

When they meet him he's pwning ****lords.

Ah and then MJB charges in like "Leroy Jenkins" and somehow disfigures Domashev's face.

The rest writes itself.

 

[Boom]

They should have called it the P-Zone. The promotional tie-in to Pizza Hut writes itself.

 

[starscream22]

I don't really even expect a fight with Doom to last 15 minutes. It might build up to that for 15 minutes, but the actual fight is probably going to be less than 5. The one in FF (2005) was only about that where they all took him on at once.

There is a quick scene in one of those spots where Teller stretch punches Domashev while in the fake Negative zone (looks terrible). So I guess that's part the final stand off.

 

[starscream22]

So FFINO is only 100 minutes. That's slightly shorter than the Tim Story 2005 FF movie, and only slightly longer than FF: ROTSS. And even FF (2005) felt short.

Not that we would want Trank to stretch out this turd for too long.

Chronicle was only 84 minutes so that 16 extra minutes is a record for Trank.

 

[RAE072]

Looks like MIRN is shaping up to be a good movie.

'Hollywood Reporter MI:5 review - "Rogue Nation rates as the second-best of the numerous franchise titles of the summer, after Mad Max: Fury Road."'

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie/mission-impossible-5/review/810873

That'll eat into Fantfourstic's bottom line for sure.

 

[Orba]

Hmm, another mention of press screenings.

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/is-an-x-men-fantastic-four-crossover-necessary/

As much as I want to root for this movie considering how much I like the actors involved, Fox seems to be doing little to nothing to promote it and the fact they've set up a Wednesday night press screening here in Seattle, leaving little to no time for print press to review it is alarming...

If there is little no no time it sounds like the Seattle press screening is on the 5th.

Maybe that thing I posted earlier is accurate and they are holding off the press screenings until the last second.

 

[Orba]

Wait, isn't the New Zealand release date supposed to be the 30th? If its the 30th why are they getting their premiere on the 5th?

http://www.flicks.co.nz/win/fantastic-four-passes-premiere/

 

[Erzengel]

Maybe that thing I posted earlier is accurate and they are holding off the press screenings until the last second.

Isn't that nearly as bad as not holding a press screening?

 

[Orba]

Isn't that nearly as bad as not holding a press screening?

If you wanted to be really cynical you could say that they are doing as they don't trust embargos to be enough to hold the critics back with this film :P

 

[Sullstar]

Wait, isn't the New Zealand release date supposed to be the 30th? If its the 30th why are they getting their premiere on the 5th?

http://www.flicks.co.nz/win/fantastic-four-passes-premiere/

It says in cinemas August 6th in the article. Maybe IMDB is wrong

Edit: Looked on 2 cinema chains websites in New Zealand, both say August 6th in their coming soon sections, and also just found one site that says 30th July

 

[lordofthenerds]

As far as the final fight and how the movie is structured, most damning to me is the soundtrack listing:



Domashev is apparently out of action from around Track 14 to Track 22. He's apparently strapped to a TABLE for what? A third of the movie? And then they go from him getting back to Planet Zero, them following him, fighting him, beating him, and the end credits in...what? 15 minutes? 20 at the MOST?

That's bad. Really bad.

Reminds me of Venom's situation in Spider-Man 3.

Spider-Man 3 had the excuse of being overpacked with characters. What excuse does Fant4stic have? Overpacked with moping?

 

[Orba]

It says in cinemas August 6th in the article. Maybe IMDB is wrong

Edit: Looked on 2 cinema chains websites in New Zealand, both say August 6th in their coming soon sections, and also just found one that says 30th July

Yeah I had a look at that one site and they showed Mission Impossible for the 30th in NZ.

 

[lordofthenerds]

If you wanted to be really cynical you could say that they are doing as they don't trust embargos to be enough to hold the critics back with this film :P

That wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Orba]

As cynical as I am about this production I'm still pretty shocked that Fox could actually be waiting until the 5th or 6th for press screenings. That is really last minute, many reviewers won't have the reviews finished before the film is released... and its hard not to ignore the suspicion that it is deliberate.

 

[Erzengel]

As cynical as I am about this production I'm still pretty shocked that Fox could actually be waiting until the 5th or 6th for press screenings. That is really last minute, many reviewers won't have the reviews finished before the film is released... and its hard not to ignore the suspicion that it is deliberate.

They did this before for Green Lantern.

They typically hold no press screening or the day before it's release because they feel the movie is going to take a pounding.

 

[lordofthenerds]

They do it for every movie by Friedberg and Seltzer too.

 

[Orba]

They did this before for Green Lantern.

They typically hold no press screening or the day before it's release because they feel the movie is going to take a pounding.

Its hard not to read it as anything less that Fox having no faith in the film. They just intend to get it out and get as much money from it as possible before WOM kicks in (good or bad, and Fox seem to be betting it will be bad).

 

[Val_Zod]

[YT]watch?v=_pkvMUN0glM[/YT]

The redhead and Christian are definitely being more reasonable in this venture. John is way too optimistic, and his reasons for being excited are not very good. The Amazing Spiderman 2 could have used the same defense prior to release. Mark Webb's first directorial effort was a hit just like Trank's Chronicle, the cast, which featured Garfield, Stone, Giamatti, Fields, Foxx, Dehaan are all worthy talents, and proven their worth. Mediocre writers, Kurtzman/Orci (Yes, Kinberg is not a good writer, Campea needs to realize that).

I think the most damning thing is he still thinks Trank is a good director. Trank only has 1 movie under his belt. That is not enough to consider him great. Promising, yes, but far from an established talent. Look at Neil Blomkamp, first directorial work was District 9 (Which was a better movie than Chronicle imo), and since then he's never lived up to his first hit. Who's to say Trank will deliver? Especially considering they are heavily reshooting Trank's vision of the film, which only suggest they weren't happy with what he offered. And these are not just being reported by small gossip websites, but even reputable ones.

Being optimistic is fine, but blind optimism , whilst disregarding all of the anecdotal evidence is pretty much reckless.

And this is coming from someone who was originally looking forward to the film following the first teaser, so I'm not speaking from some pre-disposed bias. If someone like me can see something is alarming, then it be wise for everyone hoping this is good too as well.

 

[Kanon]

Wait, the Negative Zone is called "Planet Zero"? so not even "in name only" there?

As cynical as I am about this production I'm still pretty shocked that Fox could actually be waiting until the 5th or 6th for press screenings. That is really last minute, many reviewers won't have the reviews finished before the film is released... and its hard not to ignore the suspicion that it is deliberate.

if it's such a disaster, the reviews will be ready anyway. People will forfeit sleep to pan this...

 

[RAE072]

As cynical as I am about this production I'm still pretty shocked that Fox could actually be waiting until the 5th or 6th for press screenings. That is really last minute, many reviewers won't have the reviews finished before the film is released... and its hard not to ignore the suspicion that it is deliberate.

Oh yeah, that's absolutely a show of no faith in this thing.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

[YT]watch?v=_pkvMUN0glM[/YT]

The redhead and Christian are definitely being more reasonable in this venture. John is way too optimistic, and his reasons for being excited are not very good. The Amazing Spiderman 2 could have used the same defense prior to release. Mark Webb's first directorial effort was a hit just like Trank's Chronicle, the cast, which featured Garfield, Stone, Giamatti, Fields, Foxx, Dehaan are all worthy talents, and proven their worth. Mediocre writers, Kurtzman/Orci (Yes, Kinberg is not a good writer, Campea needs to realize that).

I think the most damning thing is he still thinks Trank is a good director. Trank only has 1 movie under his belt. That is not enough to consider him great. Promising, yes, but far from an established talent. Look at Neil Blomkamp, first directorial work was District 9 (Which was a better movie than Chronicle imo), and since then he's never lived up to his first hit. Who's to say Trank will deliver? Especially considering they are heavily reshooting Trank's vision of the film, which only suggest they weren't happy with what he offered. And these are not just being reported by small gossip websites, but even reputable ones.

Being optimistic is fine, but blind optimism , whilst disregarding all of the anecdotal evidence is pretty much reckless.

And this is coming from someone who was originally looking forward to the film following the first teaser, so I'm not speaking from some pre-disposed bias. If someone like me can see something is alarming, then it be wise for everyone hoping this is good too as well.

I still don't know why Campea is looking forward to this film.

 

[RAE072]

I love that those guys in that video are talking about all this uphill battle stuff...

TWO WEEKS before the movie comes out!

The battle is lost! The battle started when the first trailer was released and they have suffered defeat after defeat ever since.

And the general public isn't even aware or at very best is ambivalent to this movie.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I love that those guys in that video are talking about all this uphill battle stuff...

TWO WEEKS before the movie comes out!

The battle is lost! The battle started when the first trailer was released and they have suffered defeat after defeat ever since.

And the general public isn't even aware or at very best is ambivalent to this movie.

OMG, this.

"Uphill battle," is a total understatement. Fox has had plenty of time to turn things around but they haven't and you know why? The film probably sucks hard.

I don't get why Singer being a good company man is seen as Fox having faith in this ****** looking movie. Also blaming the Tim Story films for this movie's bad buzz is ridiculous.