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I agree that both are bad Darph, I just find the first film better than it's sequel.
 
I think they are both rather bad. Both are super generic, disposable, poorly made and lacking in anything truly memorable. The first almost gets a retrospective pass because of how bad the second is, but considering Batman Begins came out in 2005 and X2 in 2003, there is no excuse for how poor either is imo.

I thought both of them were terrible too. I never even bothered watching them in theaters because I thought they looked like junk, and I felt justified in that decision when I finally saw them on TV.
 
Whenever you want to think the original FF films weren't that bad, remember this came out a year before the first.

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Now The Incredibles, that was a movie I loved.
 
I always thought Ioan Gruffud as Mr. Fantastic was... uh... fantastic casting.

I actually had no problem with any of the casting at all in Story's films with the exception of Alba. When news first broke of the casting, I was content.........except with Alba. I actually think Story really wanted to give the fans what they wanted but as is becoming more and more evident is that Fox seems to be the ones who intrude way to much(with the exception of Singer)instead of letting the directer have his way.
 
Fair enough. Still, I haven't watched the Incredibles from beggining to end (I think I watched most of it, in segments), and while the quality is undeniably superior, it didn't strike as genious, nor even close. Again: Crazy.
 
I actually had no problem with any of the casting at all in Story's films with the exception of Alba. When news first broke of the casting, I was content.........except with Alba. I actually think Story really wanted to give the fans what they wanted but as is becoming more and more evident is that Fox seems to be the ones who intrude way to much(with the exception of Singer)instead of letting the directer have his way.
I don't think it was the casting as much as the scripts regarding Alba. Sue was always nagging, annoying, and getting into situations where she would turn visible while naked :huh:
 
Fair enough. Still, I haven't watched the Incredibles from beggining to end (I think I watched most of it, in segments), and while the quality is undeniably superior, it didn't strike as genious, nor even close. Again: Crazy.
Its the best superhero film imo. Which makes the lack of an even good FF film even more egregious.
 
I don't think it was the casting as much as the scripts regarding Alba. Sue was always nagging, annoying, and getting into situations where she would turn visible while naked :huh:
I had the biggest crush on Alba back in the day, but she was never a good actress and didn't fit the role at all.
 
I had the biggest crush on Alba back in the day, but she was never a good actress and didn't fit the role at all.
I won't defend Alba, but her acting skills are not what hurt her version of Sue. With a decent character in the script, and a good director, any mediocre actress could have performed a decent Sue. It doesn't take Meryl Streep to pull this off.

Kate Mara can be great sometimes, but I'm not looking forward to her performance in FF
 
Only good thing I like from this movie is the fact that it comes with new music from El-P
 
Only good thing I like from this movie is the fact that it comes with new music from El-P

Listening to the end credits music now and...meh?

That's all I got. Meh. It's kinda silly. And not good.
 
I won't defend Alba, but her acting skills are not what hurt her version of Sue. With a decent character in the script, and a good director, any mediocre actress could have performed a decent Sue. It doesn't take Meryl Streep to pull this off.

Kate Mara can be great sometimes, but I'm not looking forward to her performance in FF
This is the kind of reasoning that gives us these bad superhero flicks imo. Would Han Solo have been Han Solo if they got a mediocre actor? How about Iron Man now?
 

I mean it's not great quality as said.

Im really surprised. El-P is a really good beat maker/musician. He's made stuff way way way better than Another BOdy.

I also was hoping he was rapping as well, but either way not a good instrumental from him. At least from what Im hearing. My mind could change if the quality is better
 
I don't think it was the casting as much as the scripts regarding Alba. Sue was always nagging, annoying, and getting into situations where she would turn visible while naked :huh:

Alba can't act and I also think it was the freakin blonde wig/bad dye job to her hair as well as obvious blue contacts that turned people off. There were better actresses who were naturally blond and blue eyed they could have gotten.
 
This is the kind of reasoning that gives us these bad superhero flicks imo. Would Han Solo have been Han Solo if they got a mediocre actor? How about Iron Man now?
Of course someone better could have been an iconic Sue. My point was that even with Alba or someone else, the movie and/or character could have been more than good, or at least not be regarded as one of the worst casting decisions in comic book movies
 
Alba can't act and I also think it was the freakin blonde wig/bad dye job to her hair as well as obvious blue contacts that turned people off. There were better actresses who were naturally blond and blue eyed they could have gotten.
Yeap, her looks didn't look natural at all, it was seriously distracting.
 
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