THE FLASH - 2016 can't get here fast enough!

[The_Manhunter]

Villains

1. Captain Cold or Mirror Master
2. Zoom
3. Grodd

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I still think they should go with 5 or so Rogues for the first movie, led by Captain Cold.

I think establishing the Rogues as a group could help set Flash apart from the pack.

 

[The Guard]

Yup.

 

[titansupes]

Obsessive is just not one of the first charateristics I think of when thinking of any of the guys that have been The Flash. It also feels off to me if what you want is a film with a tone "lighter" than MOS. That's just me.

I honestly don't know the Flash, never read him outside of his appearances in other books (hope to rectify that eventually). I just thought it was interesting.

 

[erehwon0]

Sorry, here you go -

JMS on The Flash:


http://www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLN...-superhero-films-marvel-is-kicking-dcs-clock/

That, plus a slightly brighter, warmer tone than MoS... I'm there, man.

Thanks Man!

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

i know that these big studio big budget type films aren't blomkamp's cup of tea, but going with what dianne nelson has said about catering to a filmmakers specific vision, I'd love it if he got a crack at WW flash or even green lantern even if it meant that he'd only do one of these films.

dianne nelson "our strategy has been different from that. I think more "precise" is the word. It's a specific vision from a specific filmmaker rather than a full slate."

 

[Joshua_B]

The one element of the Flash comics I don't really care for is him being able to go through time; it doesn't make any sense to me. Also, I never understood the whole "speed force" deal; whatever happened to Barry Allen simply being struck by lightning?

 

[erehwon0]

The one element of the Flash comics I don't really care for is him being able to go through time; it doesn't make any sense to me. Also, I never understood the whole "speed force" deal; whatever happened to Barry Allen simply being struck by lightning?

Time travel is really hard to substantiate. I think most scientists are in agreement that travelling back in time is impossible and traveling to the future is a one way trip. Then again what's the fun in that i the Flash can't do it? They could do away with it because of this more grounded reality that DC/WB/CW seem to favor.

As for the Speed Force, even if it really is not clearly defined, it still is a very good element in the Flash lore. I think it was Mark Waid's creation and it is quite a good one. The speed force is the extra dimensional source of most speedsters power in the DCU. If there was no speed force all speedsters would have to ingest a lot to be able to move at superhuman speeds. Which might be disgusting to see. It keeps them from prematurely aging. So instead of expending a lot of energy naturally, they siphon energy off the speed force and age normally.

I think the new costume is said to be from the speed force, energy converted to matter. Pretty cool! So no more Flash ring and expanding costume. I don't know what your preference is but I think this new way his costume comes together is cooler.

All of this is sort of an explanation to the Flash's powers. It could be said that the accident triggered Barry's metagene so he could access the Speed Force. And Barry is the only one with a metagene in the JLA so I hope they keep that aspect. Also who knows how they'll explain it in the DC movie cinematic universe which likes to keep things "grounded in reality" **cough BS cough**

There are more things about the Flash that could be listed down which could possible make him as powerful as Superman. I think if you can speak to Grant Morrison or Mark Waid, they might have a better handle of Flash's potential than just "someone who runs fast"

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Time travel is really hard to substantiate. I think most scientists are in agreement that travelling back in time is impossible and traveling to the future is a one way trip. Then again what's the fun in that i the Flash can't do it? They could do away with it because of this more grounded reality that DC/WB/CW seem to favor.

As for the Speed Force, even if it really is not clearly defined, it still is a very good element in the Flash lore. I think it was Mark Waid's creation and it is quite a good one. The speed force is the extra dimensional source of most speedsters power in the DCU. If there was no speed force all speedsters would have to ingest a lot to be able to move at superhuman speeds. Which might be disgusting to see. It keeps them from prematurely aging. So instead of expending a lot of energy naturally, they siphon energy off the speed force and age normally.

I think the new costume is said to be from the speed force, energy converted to matter. Pretty cool! So no more Flash ring and expanding costume. I don't know what your preference is but I think this new way his costume comes together is cooler.

All of this is sort of an explanation to the Flash's powers. It could be said that the accident triggered Barry's metagene so he could access the Speed Force. And Barry is the only one with a metagene in the JLA so I hope they keep that aspect. Also who knows how they'll explain it in the DC movie cinematic universe which likes to keep things "grounded in reality" **cough BS cough**

There are more things about the Flash that could be listed down which could possible make him as powerful as Superman. I think if you can speak to Grant Morrison or Mark Waid, they might have a better handle of Flash's potential than just "someone who runs fast"

Flash is far from the only member of the JLA to have the metagene.

 

[Joshua_B]

The only origin I was ever aware of was from the early 1990s TV series with John Wesley Shipp (great guy, by the way). It was pretty simple, having Barry as a scientist working with chemicals, who gets his powers after a huge lightning bolt strikes his laboratory.

 

[erehwon0]

Flash is far from the only member of the JLA to have the metagene.

Out of the Main 7, he is. Superman & Martian Manhunter (aliens), Aquaman (half human-Atlantean), Wonder Woman (Demi-god Azzarello), Green Lantern (human - Power Ring), Cyborg (part man-machine New Gods), Batman (human, although his superpower might be his luck and his will.) Let's face it. we probably won't see the JLU anytime soon.

 

[erehwon0]

The only origin I was ever aware of was from the early 1990s TV series with John Wesley Shipp (great guy, by the way). It was pretty simple, having Barry as a scientist working with chemicals, who gets his powers after a huge lightning bolt strikes his laboratory.

If you're not really a fan and haven't been following the stories. then I suppose not looking deeper into it is fine. But Mark Waid really tried to go deeper and try to explain it quasi-scientifically. I think the way he saw it was Wally was a man who was turning into a god. I hope that is one aspect they will look into when they make the movie. A man burdened by the realization that he is not a man anymore. Of course all superheroes aren't regular humans, but I think the Flash might be a man on his way to becoming a god.

 

[metaphysician]

Only it wasn't Barry who became the god, it was Wally.

 

[Airwings]

I still want Mazzello for the role

 

[erehwon0]

Only it wasn't Barry who became the god, it was Wally.

Too true. Unfortunately we're stuck with Barry. Hopefully they keep the 2 separate and not an amalgamation when he reaches the TV or Movies like they did with JLU.

 

[cleverusername8]

Too true. Unfortunately we're stuck with Barry. Hopefully they keep the 2 separate and not an amalgamation when he reaches the TV or Movies like they did with JLU.

The amalgamation thing isn't exclusive to JLU. For example, Smallville amalgamated Barry and Bart into the Flash character on that show and named him Bart. Various movies have amalgamated Barry and Wally like Crisis on Two Earths and Doom. Even the live action TV show. There's nothing wrong with any of it - if anything, it makes the character stronger. I'd actually like to see them amalgamate a little of the other Flashes into the character they use in the Flash movie or JL. It's not like it'd be anything new.

And why is being "stuck with Barry" unfortunate? People can gripe about his "lack of personality" all that they want, but his core story is much better suited for a debut movie for the character seeing how both Wally and Bart's origins come from him. He established a meaningful relationship with the Rogues, founding the Justice League, and saved the multiverse. And he's a stand up guy. For those reasons, there's no reason to put Barry down.

 

[Hypestyle]

I wonder how will the villains be portrayed? Irredeemable? Or perhaps with a vague sense of honor? Which ones will be simply thieves? Which ones will be killers?

 

[NoLaNitE007]

Jake Gyllenhaal would be a good Barry Allen or Wally West. I hope WB's gives him a good look.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Only it wasn't Barry who became the god, it was Wally.

Barry Allen is the greatest Flash.

Survived everything Wally did, created the Speed Force, became the Speed Force, moved so fast (faster than any speedster had ever moved, ever) in his "death" and became the lightning bolt that hit himself, AND came back from that. In addition to creating the suit and identity Wally dressed up as and pretended to be, and doing most the other things Wally did in his run first (like, the lightning bolt origin, dating a marrying a reporter girlfriend, having twins, having a Kid Flash, having a Reverse Flash, etc...). I don't know if it all makes sense (neither do most comics), but it's awesome.

The Flash is perfect for a cinematic adaptation - they just need the right story. There's so much to draw from with his character.

 

[Hyde]

My director choices are...

Chris Lord and Phil Miller (Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, 21 Jump Street, The Lego Movie). All those movies have been fantastic and they managed to get a good performances out of Channing Tatum, something that shouldn't be taken lightly. It only helps that The Lego Movie looks brilliant and introduces the Justice League

Barry Sonnenfeld (Men in Black Trilogy, attached to DC's Metal Men). MIB3 was a breath of fresh air and really fun, something a Flash film would be. Again it helps that he's already attached to direct a DC project, even if it probably won't happen at this stage.

 

[erehwon0]

The amalgamation thing isn't exclusive to JLU. For example, Smallville amalgamated Barry and Bart into the Flash character on that show and named him Bart. Various movies have amalgamated Barry and Wally like Crisis on Two Earths and Doom. Even the live action TV show. There's nothing wrong with any of it - if anything, it makes the character stronger. I'd actually like to see them amalgamate a little of the other Flashes into the character they use in the Flash movie or JL. It's not like it'd be anything new.

And why is being "stuck with Barry" unfortunate? People can gripe about his "lack of personality" all that they want, but his core story is much better suited for a debut movie for the character seeing how both Wally and Bart's origins come from him. He established a meaningful relationship with the Rogues, founding the Justice League, and saved the multiverse. And he's a stand up guy. For those reasons, there's no reason to put Barry down.

Listen I'm not here to knock Barry, but I started reading comics just as Crisis on Infinite Earths was just coming out. That 2 panels where Jay was telling Wally his speed was no longer killing him was the start of a new era for the Flash. As well for a lot of Flash fans. Even now a lot of fans are still eagerly awaiting for Wally's return.

To quote TDK: "Barry is the Flash we (General Audience) deserve, not the one we need (Wally fans). I fully know why Barry will be the Flash. Explaining 2 Flashes and their history will not go well cinematically and audiences deserve to get on the ground floor. But for the past 20 or so years we witnessed Wally try to be the Flash to become THE Flash of my generation. Tip of the hat to Mr. Waid and Mr. Johns.

I am resistant to the "amalgalmation" because they are 2 distinct personalities to me. Even when Wally became a very responsible person, I still thought he was not becoming Barry "lite".

Food for thought, would the "buddy cop" tandem of Hal and Barry work if Barry's personality was an amalgalmation of Wally and Barry? A little more flippant than the more strait laced Barry? I think Hal's fly by the seat of your pants personality will bounce off better to the more reserved Barry. Not that he's humorless. I think their humor comes from their differences.

BOTTOM LINE: Whichever Barry ends up being, WE ARE GETTING A FLASH! And that is all that matters!

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

a part of me would love to see them pick Wally for the movie...just to see Kevin Smith's reaction

 

[Airwings]

Offer the director's chair to Baz Lurhmann. I doubt he's too big to get hired

 

[Kevin Smith]

a part of me would love to see them pick Wally for the movie...just to see Kevin Smith's reaction

You don't need to see him picked for the movie to know what my reaction would be. :-P ...seriously though, I will be first in line to see this movie regardless of which Flash it ends up being. I just watched Turbo last night, it's funny how that movie reminds me of The Flash in some ways - Ryan Reynolds playing a slow character who gets super speed. Lol.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Listen I'm not here to knock Barry, but I started reading comics just as Crisis on Infinite Earths was just coming out. That 2 panels where Jay was telling Wally his speed was no longer killing him was the start of a new era for the Flash. As well for a lot of Flash fans. Even now a lot of fans are still eagerly awaiting for Wally's return.

If Wally "returns", it's probably not going to be the same way he used to be. I think that could potentially be a really good thing though of handled right, they could let him have his own identity and costume and maybe change his origin a little so it's not just a mini me version of Barry Allen's. That being said though, I do think the explanation Geoff Johns provided for how the Speed Force worked in Flash: Rebirth, what with it sporadically "selecting" other people with Barry's similar sense of justice throughout time and space after having so much energy generated in it by Barry that it needs to discharge and in turn grant others superspeed, makes Wally's traditional origin a little more plausible and less uncreative sounding. IMO.