The Flash The Flash Costume Thread

[Boy Scout]

Well if texturing is the goal, why not MOS it or go the spidery route.

I don't know. I didn't make the costume.

I just don't like the Comic-con look of the outfit.

Which is fine. You disliking it doesn't bother me one way or the other. I respect your opinion and don't feel the need to make our differing opinions a cause for personal disagreement. I was just saying that I'd rather have the suit we were given than the one you posted. Say whatever you want about Gustin's suit, but at least it's interesting to look at.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

Hey! here is another fan art from this guy, looks awesome...well, for me.

He made the costume look amazing there. It's possible than when they film the suit under controlled lighting etc it'll look much better than the set photos that were taken in broad daylight. VERY NICE.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

Well if texturing is the goal, why not MOS it or go the spidery route. I just don't like the Comic-con look of the outfit.

I don't remember the exact cost of the suit on the original series, but it was staggering. It might have been $50,000, $70,000 I really can't recall but they used a lot of them so you can see production costs soon mount. I'm not sure what the suits in the modern day Spider-Man movies cost, but it is way beyond the budget of a weekly television show. Would it be better if they could pay James Acheson and Michael Wilkinson to design the Flash costume and then have Legacy Effects make them? Sure it would be, but it's simply not doable with the budget of this show.

That doesn't mean they couldn't improve what we got for not a lot of money, and that still might happen. We'll just have to wait and see, but Normally after a pilot has been shot and then aired and given a commitment to go to series some stuff generally gets tweaked. Some of that tweaking might be to the costume. Various Manips in this forum show that some slight changes take it to a whole new level. Perhaps the producers will see some of those Manips,or possibly they already have some small adjustments in the pipeline?

 

[Midnight Black]

For some reason when I look at the show suit I get an Adam Strange feeling. The suit, cowl and symbol just makes me think of those old retro space odyssey comics like Adam Strange, Flash Gordon, etc. Strap a jetpack to his back and we got ourselves a cross between Stange and Rocketeer lol

 

[Primal Slayer]

I don't remember the exact cost of the suit on the original series, but it was staggering. It might have been $50,000, $70,000 I really can't recall but they used a lot of them so you can see production costs soon mount. I'm not sure what the suits in the modern day Spider-Man movies cost, but it is way beyond the budget of a weekly television show. Would it be better if they could pay James Acheson and Michael Wilkinson to design the Flash costume and then have Legacy Effects make them? Sure it would be, but it's simply not doable with the budget of this show.

That doesn't mean they couldn't improve what we got for not a lot of money, and that still might happen. We'll just have to wait and see, but Normally after a pilot has been shot and then aired and given a commitment to go to series some stuff generally gets tweaked. Some of that tweaking might be to the costume. Various Manips in this forum show that some slight changes take it to a whole new level. Perhaps the producers will see some of those Manips,or possibly they already have some small adjustments in the pipeline?

Well Supermans movie costume was about 100,000. As long as they don't go around tearing the suit up every episode, they could totally afford a couple a season.

 

[king666]

Well Supermans movie costume was about 100,000. As long as they don't go around tearing the suit up every episode, they could totally afford a couple a season.

Holy ****, that's a lot of money.

 

[StarvingArtist]

Both this Flash costume and the 1990 suit occupy opposite ends on the ridiculous spectrum.

The 1990 suit may be hilariously over the top fake-muscled, but this new suit fails in all the ways Wesley Ship's costume succeeded. It's baggy. It's obviously made of rubber and leather. The emblems just look kind of "tacked on" in a very homemade halloween style and have no aesthetic flow whatsoever.

Neither the old nor new suit look like anything a human being would be comfortable running around in, let alone at super speed. Personally I was hoping for something a bit more Under-armor, speedskater inspired.

Out of all the superheroes where a formfitting costume actually makes sense, Flash would be it. This adaptation is laughable.

 

[Midnight Black]

You know the more I think about it the more it makes sense that the Flash could really wear whatever. I get the whole Flash should wear a speedskater, unitard, wetsuit, underarmor type of getup because he needs to be able to move and not be restricted. However, it also stands to reason that the Flash would be superfast in whatever he wore and wind resistance or suit fabric would not have any affect on his movements at all unless made of a super durable fabric that a normal human couldn't move in at all.

As long as he has full range of motion and the suit is flexible at all his joints and everywhere else then the Flash can run at the same speed as he would if in a spandex-like suit.

However, I agree a suit like Hunger Games or Ender Games would have been way better.

 

[Nathan]

I wish they could have made the costume as form fitting as this. Just remove the armor and make the pants from the same material.

 

[DaKid]

I can't even imagine why these suits cost 100k in the first place... are they made out of some rare substance or material? I mean... what the hell...

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

Both this Flash costume and the 1990 suit occupy opposite ends on the ridiculous spectrum.

The 1990 suit may be hilariously over the top fake-muscled, but this new suit fails in all the ways Wesley Ship's costume succeeded. It's baggy. It's obviously made of rubber and leather. The emblems just look kind of "tacked on" in a very homemade halloween style and have no aesthetic flow whatsoever.

Neither the old nor new suit look like anything a human being would be comfortable running around in, let alone at super speed. Personally I was hoping for something a bit more Under-armor, speedskater inspired.

Out of all the superheroes where a formfitting costume actually makes sense, Flash would be it. This adaptation is laughable.

It's amazing how many are getting their panties in a wad over the costume that could merely be a starting point and not the definitive version. This is from the pilot when Barry first becomes the Flash.

Even the new Superman costume is going to be tweaked for MOS2: B v S.

Thor's costume was changed for the second movie, Captain America is on his third (?) Costume, four if you count the USO one, TDKT had at least three versions of the bat suit ( one without a cowl and cape in BB ) and Arrow just got his domino mask. The original 4 Batman movies had a different costume for every movie and more than one in BF, B&R. So why would the Flash be any different? The obvious answer is that he wouldn't. Superhero mythology 101 or simple Common sense tells you that. I don't expect it to evolve into skin tight spandex or a speed skater unitard costume, but I fully expect it will get refined and polished over the course of the series.

So to summarize, either I'm overly optimistic and Pollyannaish in my expectations of how this will play out in the series, or some posters on this forum eschew any logical, rational thought when discussing such matters. Okay, I'm done bashing my head against a wall trying to convince people to wait and see the costume in the context of the pilot's storyline, (S.T.A.R LABS) and what implications that storyline might have for the evolution of the Flash's look.

 

[gugumugats]

I can't even imagine why these suits cost 100k in the first place... are they made out of some rare substance or material? I mean... what the hell...

I think that also includes the designer and artist fees.

There's also some "R&D" involved when it comes to trying to decide what material stands well to movement or lighting, how reflective it is, and so on and so forth.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Spoiler

Yep, I'm feeling the one on the left tons more!

I like the one on the left more, but to try and place it on the head or removing it is a pain

 

[DaKid]

I think that also includes the designer and artist fees.

There's also some "R&D" involved when it comes to trying to decide what material stands well to movement or lighting, how reflective it is, and so on and so forth.

Ok, but 100k? Christ... that just seems outrageous lol.

 

[Primal Slayer]

It's amazing how many are getting their panties in a wad over the costume that could merely be a starting point and not the definitive version. This is from the pilot when Barry first becomes the Flash.

Even the new Superman costume is going to be tweaked for MOS2: B v S.

Thor's costume was changed for the second movie, Captain America is on his third (?) Costume, four if you count the USO one, TDKT had at least three versions of the bat suit ( one without a cowl and cape in BB ) and Arrow just got his domino mask. The original 4 Batman movies had a different costume for every movie and more than one in BF, B&R. So why would the Flash be any different? The obvious answer is that he wouldn't. Superhero mythology 101 or simple Common sense tells you that. I don't expect it to evolve into skin tight spandex or a speed skater unitard costume, but I fully expect it will get refined and polished over the course of the series.

So to summarize, either I'm overly optimistic and Pollyannaish in my expectations of how this will play out in the series, or some posters on this forum eschew any logical, rational thought when discussing such matters. Okay, I'm done bashing my head against a wall trying to convince people to wait and see the costume in the context of the pilot's storyline, (S.T.A.R LABS) and what implications that storyline might have for the evolution of the Flash's look.

This isnt a simple case of paint vs. a mask like in Arrow. And this isn't a movie like Superman or Batman. Sure it could be a starting out costume but it could very well not be. I don't think they are going to be remaking the suit every season.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Hey! here is another fan art from this guy, looks awesome...well, for me.

That is pretty cool.

Both this Flash costume and the 1990 suit occupy opposite ends on the ridiculous spectrum.

The 1990 suit may be hilariously over the top fake-muscled, but this new suit fails in all the ways Wesley Ship's costume succeeded. It's baggy. It's obviously made of rubber and leather. The emblems just look kind of "tacked on" in a very homemade halloween style and have no aesthetic flow whatsoever.

Neither the old nor new suit look like anything a human being would be comfortable running around in, let alone at super speed. Personally I was hoping for something a bit more Under-armor, speedskater inspired.

Out of all the superheroes where a formfitting costume actually makes sense, Flash would be it. This adaptation is laughable.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter.

 

[erehwon0]

It's amazing how many are getting their panties in a wad over the costume that could merely be a starting point and not the definitive version. This is from the pilot when Barry first becomes the Flash.

Even the new Superman costume is going to be tweaked for MOS2: B v S.

Thor's costume was changed for the second movie, Captain America is on his third (?) Costume, four if you count the USO one, TDKT had at least three versions of the bat suit ( one without a cowl and cape in BB ) and Arrow just got his domino mask. The original 4 Batman movies had a different costume for every movie and more than one in BF, B&R. So why would the Flash be any different? The obvious answer is that he wouldn't. Superhero mythology 101 or simple Common sense tells you that. I don't expect it to evolve into skin tight spandex or a speed skater unitard costume, but I fully expect it will get refined and polished over the course of the series.

So to summarize, either I'm overly optimistic and Pollyannaish in my expectations of how this will play out in the series, or some posters on this forum eschew any logical, rational thought when discussing such matters. Okay, I'm done bashing my head against a wall trying to convince people to wait and see the costume in the context of the pilot's storyline, (S.T.A.R LABS) and what implications that storyline might have for the evolution of the Flash's look.

I heartily agree with most of your thoughts on this except maybe your comparisons with the movie budget. This is television and only a pilot! The budget for this must be incomparable with the movies!

But I digress, the costume is not even the most important issue at hand but the story, the actors, the producers and the showrunners. If they mess up the pilot like they did with Wonder Woman, this will be the last iteration of the Flash until we eventually get the Justice League which may be 4-5 years away. BVS is still 2 frickin years away! So yeah, the costume isn't really the most important thing right now. It's almost an afterthought compared with everything else.t:

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

This isnt a simple case of paint vs. a mask like in Arrow. And this isn't a movie like Superman or Batman. Sure it could be a starting out costume but it could very well not be. I don't think they are going to be remaking the suit every season.

Who said every season? How about small but incremental changes.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

I heartily agree with most of your thoughts on this except maybe your comparisons with the movie budget. This is television and only a pilot! The budget for this must be incomparable with the movies!

But I digress, the costume is not even the most important issue at hand but the story, the actors, the producers and the showrunners. If they mess up the pilot like they did with Wonder Woman, this will be the last iteration of the Flash until we eventually get the Justice League which may be 4-5 years away. BVS is still 2 frickin years away! So yeah, the costume isn't really the most important thing right now. It's almost an afterthought compared with everything else.t:

My point was to show that these costumes on TV or in films are always evolving. Oh and the WW costume was spectacularly bad!

 

[Midnight Black]

I like the one on the left more, but to try and place it on the head or removing it is a pain

Well it looks like the neck has some give room, and the cowl on the left wouldn't be anymore difficult to put on than the one on the right. The only difference is how much the mouth is showing and once he has his head past the neck part it will slide on the same.

I'm guessing they probably have at least 20-50 of these costumes, because the more GG wears it the more it stretches out, especially after fight choreography and stuff. So he probably wears at least 2 different costumes per episode. Like the difference in wearing a new crisp t-shirt vs. one that you've worn two days in a row or after working out.

 

[Brawl]

There are plenty of creative people in this world. Make it a contest to design the new flash costume and get your own commercial, that runs during the Tv show. I bet upstart design companies would beat the door down for free TV ad time.

 

[Midnight Black]

I work for an startup and design/ad agency...I/we would jump at this lol.

 

[StarvingArtist]

It's amazing how many are getting their panties in a wad over the costume that could merely be a starting point and not the definitive version. This is from the pilot when Barry first becomes the Flash.

Even the new Superman costume is going to be tweaked for MOS2: B v S.

Thor's costume was changed for the second movie, Captain America is on his third (?) Costume, four if you count the USO one, TDKT had at least three versions of the bat suit ( one without a cowl and cape in BB ) and Arrow just got his domino mask. The original 4 Batman movies had a different costume for every movie and more than one in BF, B&R. So why would the Flash be any different? The obvious answer is that he wouldn't. Superhero mythology 101 or simple Common sense tells you that. I don't expect it to evolve into skin tight spandex or a speed skater unitard costume, but I fully expect it will get refined and polished over the course of the series.

So to summarize, either I'm overly optimistic and Pollyannaish in my expectations of how this will play out in the series, or some posters on this forum eschew any logical, rational thought when discussing such matters. Okay, I'm done bashing my head against a wall trying to convince people to wait and see the costume in the context of the pilot's storyline, (S.T.A.R LABS) and what implications that storyline might have for the evolution of the Flash's look.

I didn't say anything about hopes for how the costume might change later in the series, did I? A bit disrespectful to put words in my mouth like that, but whatever- Sometimes I post dumb things when I'm drunk.

So yes... sure, it would be great if this is only the first iteration, or somehow the second-hand Daredevil look makes sense in context. I'll be hopeful and pollyanish with you and keep my fingers crossed. None of this negates the fact that without context, this first suit design is disappointing. Nowhere in your long reply did you necessarily disagree with me on that, so

 

[gugumugats]

I thought the Flash was supposed to be a symbol of hope.

If anything, it looks like his new TV costume is bringing about a lot of discord.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

I didn't say anything about hopes for how the costume might change later in the series, did I? A bit disrespectful to put words in my mouth like that, but whatever- Sometimes I post dumb things when I'm drunk.

So yes... sure, it would be great if this is only the first iteration, or somehow the second-hand Daredevil look makes sense in context. I'll be hopeful and pollyanish with you and keep my fingers crossed. None of this negates the fact that without context, this first suit design is disappointing. Nowhere in your long reply did you necessarily disagree with me on that, so

AHH! Pollyanna brothers in arms. Koombya my friend lol yeah hopefully my assertion is correct. It would be dumb not to have the evolution of the costume be an ongoing part of the storyline, but sometimes TV shows do some mind numbingly dumb things. Look how excited people got ( well I did, but it doesn't take much to get me excited haha )when Ollie got his Domino mask.