The Flash The Flash Costume Thread

[Kevin Smith]

Sure, you can personally define "perfect" as closely resembling the mainstream look.

But, that's not what perfect means because perfect is an abstract concept.

That is why people disagree with you. Your idea of perfect is not an absolute truth.

It's as perfect as you can get with adapting something called Spider-Man. If you have eyes and know how to use them and look at the suit in live action then at the comics and cartoons you can see how perfect it is. It's logic. They did a great job adapting it.

 

[Rocketman]

Maybe I'm nuts... but the new suit is the classic suit.

- Red costume
- Red mask
- Yellow bolts on the ears
- Logo on the chest

... Doesn't seem like you can get much more perfect than this.

It seems like a perfectly modern, updated version of this. I don't see any need for improvement:

 

[Mad Love]

It's as perfect as you can get with adapting something called Spider-Man. If you have eyes and know how to use them and look at the suit in live action then at the comics and cartoons you can see how perfect it is. It's logic. They did a great job adapting it.

That's stereotypical fanboy logic, which is mocked for good reason.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Looks like friggin DareDevil and Ultimate GiantMan. Zipper chest.

No lightning trim, suit is burgundy instead of red/scarlet/crimson, in fact they even put the real color the suit should be right on the only area of the costume that's supposed to be white as if to remind us they know what it's supposed to look like too.

 

[haephestus]

I like it. But, I do wish it was more form-fitting and spandex-like similar to the various live-action Spider-man costumes.

It just seems a little too "armoured" with the leather panels and a little too baggy. But they're very minor quibbles.

 

[Kevin Smith]

That's stereotypical fanboy logic, which is mocked for good reason.

You're adapting Spider-Man, you look at Spider-Man comics then take that and make it in live action and look cool.

You look through the source material for what the suit is supposed to look like and go from that since that's what you're supposed to be making, not a bunch of random other things. That's what a good costume designer does. You're doing a period piece, you look at how people dressed in that period. You're doing a comic book costume you look how that suit's appeared over the years and use that as a basis.

Logic.

 

[Mad Love]

Maybe I'm nuts... but the new suit is the classic suit.

- Red costume
- Red mask
- Yellow bolts on the ears
- Logo on the chest

Yup, all the basic ingredients are there. He's recognizable as The Flash. Really looking forward to seeing how everyone receives the pilot.

 

[Rocketman]

The classic costume is outdated and also needs to be reworked for live action.

I agree. Not so much "outdated", but rather "not practical" in live action. I don't mean that it needs to be real-world, and dark and gritty, or even "Nolanized", but I think it's pretty much unanimously agreed that THIS will never work in live action in 2014:

If you're following the "classic" comics 100%, you're pretty much getting that.

 

[Mad Love]

You're adapting Spider-Man, you look at Spider-Man comics then take that and make it in live action and look cool.

You look through the source material for what the suit is supposed to look like and go from that since that's what you're supposed to be making, not a bunch of random other things. That's what a good costume designer does. You're doing a period piece, you look at how people dresses in that period. You're doing a comic book costume you look how that suit's appeared over the years and use that as a basis.

Logic.

Sure, bad logic.

There are different looks in the comics to pick and "cool" is completely subjective.

Amazing Spider-man did not hurt at the BO with a different design. Do you think Spider-man's costume won't ever change after ASM2?

 

[Kevin Smith]

I agree. Not so much "outdated", but rather "not practical" in live action. I don't mean that it needs to be real-world, and dark and gritty, or even "Nolanized", but I think it's pretty much unanimously agreed that THIS will never work in live action in 2014:

If you're following the "classic" comics 100%, you're pretty much getting that.

You post a picture of a costume made out of peter pan tights from the 1960s. It'd be like me posting a pic of the 70s TV show Spider-Man suit and saying it won't work in live action and people will never accept it, when Sam Raimi and Marc Webb are laughing at your notion...

The Batman comic book suit has actually never received the big budget treatment, I'm curious to see what it might look like...

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Ah, just saw this for this first time since last night.

Looks so great.

I lump this in the same category as the Thor, Cap, TDKT, Arrow and First Class costumes. Different, but still awesome.

Super excited for the show.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Sure, bad logic.

Excellent logic that gave us excellent products and images.

There are different looks in the comics to pick and "cool" is completely subjective.

There's mostly the same suit design being drawn over and over again by different artists.

Amazing Spider-man did not hurt at the BO with a different design.

You don't know that because you don't have what it would have made at the BO had he been in the classic suit to compare it with.

And nearly everyone who saw it commented on the basketball look of it and prefers TASM2's suit.

Naturally.

Do you think Spider-man's costume won't ever change after ASM2?

It may, but then again it also may not, but if it does, whether whatever comes next is great or inferior remains to be seen.

What is though is that TASM2 suit looks perfect and like how he looks in the comics. Same with the Raimi suit.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Lol, my friend, her bf, and her little brother just saw the suit and they think it's terrible.

"Doesn't look like Flash. Looks like Daredevil, suit's too dark and the wrong color. I don't like it".



I didn't even say anything, just showed them all the pictures and asked them what they thought, lol.

Aaahh boy...

Flash has been CW'd.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

I showed the set photos to a couple friends of mine and they promptly said to me that Flash looks like a ***** in the new suit

 

[Mad Love]

Excellent logic that gave us excellent products and images.

You don't know that because you don't have what it would have made at the BO had he been in the classic suit to compare it with.

I do know it wasn't much of a factor because the movie was successful regardless. That's because the real product is the story. Classic costumes aren't as important as you like to believe.

MOS definitely isn't the classic costume.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I can only imagine what the reaction was like back in 2000 when we got the black X-Men costumes.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I do know it wasn't much of a factor because the movie was successful regardless. That's because the real product is the story. Classic costumes aren't as important as you like to believe.

MOS definitely isn't the classic costume.

Try doing a Spider-Man movie where he wears no costume and has his power levels chopped and see what people think of it.

MOS Superman suit is more the Superman suit than the New 52 suit is and this CW Flash suit is The Flash, that's for damn sure. The MOS suit gets an 8/10 as far as being the Superman suit goes, it gets more right than it does wrong, the only changes being the lack of the red shorts and the little lines they put along the sides/gauntlets addition. It gets more right than it does wrong, looks more like Superman than TASM1 looks like Spider-Man, and looks worlds more like Superman than this CW Flash suit looks like The Flash.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Marlon Brando: "I want to play Jor El as a bagel..."

Costumes and looks aren't important, they don't matter to the story, only story and "characterization" matters.

Brando may have won an academy award for that bagel, isn't it a damn shame we missed that?

 

[Mad Love]

Try doing a Spider-Man movie where he wears no costume and has his power levels chopped and see what people think of it.

You mean like in Spider-man 2 where he loses his powers, throws his costume in the trash, and quits being Spider-man?

 

[Mad Love]

Marlon Brando: "I want to play Jor El as a bagel..."

Costumes and looks aren't important, they don't matter to the story, only story and "characterization" matters.

Brando may have won an academy award for that bagel, isn't it a damn shame we missed that?

Who said costumes and looks aren't important? Oh that's right, no one. Nice strawman. You're defaulting to childishness as usual.

I said classic costumes aren't as important as you think to a movie's success.

 

[Kevin Smith]

You mean like in Spider-man 2 where he loses his powers, throws his costume in the trash, and quits being Spider-man?

As part of the storyarc where he re-evaluates his position and place in the world and returns as Spider-Man? Because I seem to remember him having a costume and powers for the bulk of that movie, particularly the beginning and ending...

 

[Kevin Smith]

Who said costumes and looks aren't important? Oh, that's right no one. Nice strawman. You're defaulting to childishness as usual.

As long as they depart from their classic looks, that's all that matters in terms of costumes for you, right?

I said classic costumes aren't as important as you think to a movie's success.

They're more important than you think they are.

 

[Mad Love]

As part of the storyarc where he re-evaluates his position and place in the world and returns as Spider-Man? Because I seem to remember him having a costume and powers for the bulk of that movie, particularly the beginning and ending...

And that's still...

a Spider-Man movie where he wears no costume and has his power levels chopped and see what people think of it.

People liked Spider-man 2. It's probably my favorite out of the whole franchise.

 

[Gee]

Lol, my friend, her bf, and her little brother just saw the suit and they think it's terrible.

"Doesn't look like Flash. Looks like Daredevil, suit's too dark and the wrong color. I don't like it".



I didn't even say anything, just showed them all the pictures and asked them what they thought, lol.

Aaahh boy...

Flash has been CW'd.

Showed the pics to my friends and they think it looks great.

"Oh cool, the Flash! And it's the same guy from Arrow. Can't wait."

I didn't even say anything. Just showed them all the pictures and asked them what they thought.

 

[Kevin Smith]

And that's still...



People liked Spider-man 2. It's probably my favorite out of the whole franchise.

It's the best Spider-Man movie in the franchise and one of, if not the, greatest superhero movie ever made.

But no, it is not a movie where Spider-Man has no costume and is depowered, I'm obviously talking about that as being the status quo for Spider-Man and not part of a plot that will develop and be resolved by the final half of the movie. I think you know that but maybe I'm giving you too much credit...?

That's like saying they did a Spider-Man movie just about Peter Parker with no powers or costume because he doesn't have any of those things at the beginning of Spider-Man 1, lol. It's taken out of context and not the whole truth, like the "official" body shot they released of Gustin's Flash costume before the set photo leak yesterday...