The Flash The Flash Season 5 Episode 10: "The Flash and the Furious"

[terry78]

1/15/19

Plot: Team Flash must stop Weather Witch and a new meta that can control motorized technology.

 

[Prettyricky]

Why cant the flash run down people in cars etc in seconds? Somehow hes always trailing them

 

[terry78]

I don't feel bad for saying I find both villains hot as **** this week.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I really wish they hadnt used the TC version of Thawne. He is good at it but I think i'd rather have Matt back.

Cisco suddenly being fine with not having powers and wanting to find a cure really has come out of left field. Him having powers hasnt made him a target, him deciding to fight crime has, This would've been a much better plot for Caitlin before the whole "Killer Frost is my bff" storyline came about.

Since this show kind of ruined The Flash's OG rogues, I would love a younger generation taking their place.

 

[Ninjablade]

What a boring episode. Cisco's want for a cure was out of left field, but Caitlin trying to stop him was a little ridiculous. He brought up a great point, people should have the choice to live a normal life. He wasn't acting like everyone should be forced to have it.

The A plot of learning to give second chances was a little bit ridiculous, but whatever. Tom really lost his way playing Thawne. There was a lot of awkward or bad line readings in his performance this episode. Not sure if that was the director or editors fault, but I hope it's not indicative of what's to come from him.

I can't believe this is the episode that's followed the break.

 

[Headliner]

I really wish they hadnt used the TC version of Thawne. He is good at it but I think i'd rather have Matt back.

Shouldn't the current Reverse Flash be Matt instead of Tom? When Black Flash killed Thawne, that was the Matt version. So assuming he got out of the speed force at the same time as Barry last year, which led to him joining the Nazi villians and eventually being stuck in 2049, shouldn't this be the Matt version that got out of the speed force?

 

[Pennywise]

They should have just brought back Matt as Thawne. Tom sounded really weird, especially when shouting!

 

[Prettyricky]

Yeah I think he was going for a hannibal lector behind glass feel but it came off awkward. I think this is the reverse flash who ran off after the earth X crossover then got caught in 2049 which makes sense why its tom and not matt.

On a side note did they ever mention in any past seasons once reverse flash changes faces is it perminent?

 

[Primal Slayer]

What a boring episode. Cisco's want for a cure was out of left field, but Caitlin trying to stop him was a little ridiculous. He brought up a great point, people should have the choice to live a normal life. He wasn't acting like everyone should be forced to have it.

My only thing is that most people we've encountered have control over their powers, they aren't being forced to use them. It just seems like Cisco doesn't want the "with great power comes great responsibility". But he chose this life even before his powers manifested.

 

[Web-Head]

I don't feel bad for saying I find both villains hot as **** this week.

Weather Witch, for sure

 

[Web-Head]

They should have just brought back Matt as Thawne. Tom sounded really weird, especially when shouting!

I agree. Something came across kinda strange in the Thawne/Nora scene and I wasn't feeling it.

So Nora can go stop a "hurricane" by herself but not a simple car theft? That didn't make sense why they didn't just send her when Barry had to be used as a witness.

I totally get where Cisco is coming from. It makes sense.

Barry's scenes weren't really necessary, especially in the pipeline. Seemed like they were just comedic purposes.

Very Nora centric episode which I didn't mind. Good to have the show back!

 

[shabadoo25]

This ep didn't hold my attention at all. I'm assuming Barry was sidelined because of Elseworlds filming? Will all 3 of these shows do this when they return?

We are heading towards a Caitco hookup, right?

Just a fill in ep snoozer all around. Joe has a newborn but went to Tibet?

 

[Karelia]

Pretty meh episode, but okay. I kinda wish these shows could cut down to 10-13 episodes.

Also, I hope they update Flash's suit again. I miss the ole chin strap.

 

[Flash525]

This ep didn't hold my attention at all. I'm assuming Barry was sidelined because of Elseworlds filming? Will all 3 of these shows do this when they return?

More likely to do with his wedding. Haven't watched this episode yet, but I wasn't feeling TC as Thawne during his appearance at the end of episode 8. We're going to need Matt back for Thawne stuff moving forward. If they can't get him back (scheduling) then simply put this storyline on hold until they can. TC can't pull Thawne off like he could in S1. He's tried to be too many different characters, and [his] Thawne has suffered as a result.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Yeah pretty sure this was to help Grant get married and TC to attend/officiate.

 

[Flash525]

Having now watched the episode, I can confirm that I no longer like Tom portraying Eobard.

Also, something of speculation, but during the opening scene, someone (Iris or Caitlin I think) asked where Nora was, only for her to turn up. We know she'd been to the future, but there was no mention of her during Elseworld which took place over the course of several days, and it's an event remembered by the characters. Nora wasn't there, wasn't even mentioned, and this latest episode (seemed to) pick up right after episode 8, rather than episode 9.

 

[WhoMani]

This was a pretty meh episode. I don't get why Caitlyn is mad at Cisco for watning to create a cure for metahumans since it wasn't a choice for them to have the powers in the first place. It's silly that Nora is willing to give Thawne a chance due to the fact that he's a psychopath that murdered her grandmother.

 

[Lencho01]

Wasn't feeling this episode.

I still don't like how Nora is written as if she's younger than she actually is.

I guess a young Rouges had to happen at some point since they didn't fully use the original Rogues to their potential as villains.

I don't understand this want of Cisco to not have his powers. It's not like he has to fight crime with his powers if he doesn't want to. It's not like he can't have a normal life. The cure is an ok idea for those who just don't want powers, period. And those who's powers are too dangers for everyone.

Eobard is just weird now.

 

[Gaultheria]

I still don't like how Nora is written as if she's younger than she actually is.

I'm wondering if using the Speed Force makes Nora age faster. That'd be a strong reason for future-Iris to suppress Nora's powers.

 

[Lencho01]

I'm wondering if using the Speed Force makes Nora age faster. That'd be a strong reason for future-Iris to suppress Nora's powers.

I thought they pretty much showed, with news articles and what she said, that she's like Barry's age. I think she showed him an article from 25 years after he vanishes.

 

[shabadoo25]

Wasn't feeling this episode.

I still don't like how Nora is written as if she's younger than she actually is.

I guess a young Rouges had to happen at some point since they didn't fully use the original Rogues to their potential as villains.

I don't understand this want of Cisco to not have his powers. It's not like he has to fight crime with his powers if he doesn't want to. It's not like he can't have a normal life. The cure is an ok idea for those who just don't want powers, period. And those who's powers are too dangers for everyone.

Eobard is just weird now.

The problem for all of these shows is that to have drama you have to create motivations that aren't always logical nor do they necessarily square with prior episodes. A perfect example was letting Nora stay around after the pain of the Flashpoint fallout.

We've seen Cisco experience extreme pain vibing since his injuries. That was likely supposed to be the motivation behind wanting to invent this cure.

 

[Flash525]

This was a pretty meh episode. I don't get why Caitlyn is mad at Cisco for watning to create a cure for metahumans since it wasn't a choice for them to have the powers in the first place. It's silly that Nora is willing to give Thawne a chance due to the fact that he's a psychopath that murdered her grandmother.

Caitlin is probably concerned that the cure will fall into the wrong hands, that's all.

Regarding Nora, she's young, and seemingly naïve. Her Mom closed off from her, and she thought solace (of sorts) in Thawne who could at least relate to some of what she was going through.

I don't understand this want of Cisco to not have his powers. It's not like he has to fight crime with his powers if he doesn't want to. It's not like he can't have a normal life. The cure is an ok idea for those who just don't want powers, period. And those who's powers are too dangers for everyone.

I think it's more that he's a target. Some people (Cicadia for example) targets metas, of which Cisco is. Even if he doesn't use his powers, he's still a target that he doesn't want to be.

Eobard is just weird now.

The result of Tom having portrayed too many characters and struggling to get back into character as Thawne, unfortunately.

I'm wondering if using the Speed Force makes Nora age faster. That'd be a strong reason for future-Iris to suppress Nora's powers.

Ala Bart Allen?

 

[Dark Raven]

Having now watched the episode, I can confirm that I no longer like Tom portraying Eobard.

Also, something of speculation, but during the opening scene, someone (Iris or Caitlin I think) asked where Nora was, only for her to turn up. We know she'd been to the future, but there was no mention of her during Elseworld which took place over the course of several days, and it's an event remembered by the characters. Nora wasn't there, wasn't even mentioned, and this latest episode (seemed to) pick up right after episode 8, rather than episode 9.

Cavanagh doesn't know how to play Thawne anymore. He's been playing these different versions of Wells for too long, and especially these ridiculous versions in the last couple of seasons that he no longer seems to have good judgment. Even trying to play Season 1 Thawne doesn't really work anymore. He's completely undermined his whole portrayal.

They should just use Letscher from now on.

Where's that poll thread between who is better out of Cavanagh and Letscher? I think we may need to go and amend our votes if that is possible.

I think they've just ignored Elseworlds. This episode seems to take place only minutes after episode 8, as if 9 never happened.

 

[Flash525]

Where's that poll thread between who is better out of Cavanagh and Letscher? I think we may need to go and amend our votes if that is possible.

Change Your Vote

There was an article posted somewhere on these boards about why Tom is portraying Thawne rather than Matt. I thought it was because Matt (quite simply) was unavailable; he's on another show, so it sounded like it made sense, however the apparent reason (which I disagree with) is that it simply made sense chronologically.

I figure it's a simple case that Tom is a regular on the show, and already on the payroll, so they just opted to use him as it was easier, and it's not as if Sherloque is doing much with his part at the moment. He likely wont be around for Season 6 either, whereas Thawne might just be.

 

[Dark Raven]

Change Your Vote

There was an article posted somewhere on these boards about why Tom is portraying Thawne rather than Matt. I thought it was because Matt (quite simply) was unavailable; he's on another show, so it sounded like it made sense, however the apparent reason (which I disagree with) is that it simply made sense chronologically.

I figure it's a simple case that Tom is a regular on the show, and already on the payroll, so they just opted to use him as it was easier, and it's not as if Sherloque is doing much with his part at the moment. He likely wont be around for Season 6 either, whereas Thawne might just be.

I think it is just to give Cavanagh something to do because Sherloque is a useless and possibly expendable character. Maybe he will die?

But they could have given us a Sherlock Wells who didn't have an accent and was more like Harry Wells or even S1 Thawne but was a master detective. That would've been far better and a more tolerable character. He would've brought something different than just science. His forensic skills could be better than Barry's, and without even using CSI technology.

Where was Ralph tonight?

Also who is the actress playing Weather Witch? She looks rather Asian.