The Future of Ultimate Marvel

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  1. Artistsean

    Artistsean Monkey Boy

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    Here are just some ideas for the Ultimate Marvel comics, story ideas and things that could be addressed or mentioned. Some of these ideas can go together, and some might contradict another.

    >Ultimate Spider-Man, Peter Parker, becomes an agent of SHEILD. Maybe Peter becomes a SHEILD agent, and Spider-Man is gone.
    >The Super Soldier Bill goes into effect, and requires all men and woman serving our country be injected with the Super Soldier serum.
    >Nick Fury is fired from SHEILD.
    >The Ultimates are no longer needed, they are fired or dissband.
    >Using Peter Parker's DNA, the Fantastic Four's DNA, and various super humans, experiments are under way to recreate their powers in American Soldiers. Namor is being studied to create undersea super soldiers. SHEILD scientists are studying DNA andf tissue samples from the Hulk in hopes to harness his regeneration powers.
    >Using bits of alien technology they have recovered, and along with Hank Pym and maybe Stark Enterprises, the first artificial intellegence is created. The results of the project codenamed Ultron are kept secret.
    >combining Old Sentinel technology and new Stark technology, the Sentinels are now used regularly, and are more advanced.
    >Weapon X is reinstated as a devision of SHEILD, using mutants as agents and using mutant volenteers in experiments.
    >Mutants now make up half of the population.
    >Because of the amount of mutants and super humans in the population a special prison to hold them is created on Genosha Island.
    >In small insegnificant ways, minor Stark inventions are being slowly introduced into the culture.
    >Stark Enterprises or Osbourne Inc tries to hostally take over the other.
    >Mutants must register their powers.
    >mutations in humans are becoming more aggressive in nature, while a handful of plants and animals are showing minor mutations.
    >it is revealed or discovered that the super humans are aging differently than average humans. Captain America and Spider-Man age much slower than a regular man, while the Fantastic Four dont seem to age a day. They will not age at all in 50 years.
    >Wolverine is discovering more and more of his past.
    >Because of the race between each nation to create its own super soldier, there are several created. Now some of them are advancing to high ranking offices in Government. T'Challa, Africa's super soldier called the Black Panther, is elected President.
    >Mutants are being less feared in different parts of the world.
    >The Legacy Virus, a virus meant to infect and only be harmful to mutants, is being designed in SHEILD labs by their scientists in absolute top secret. It is meant as a procotion to be used only in the most extreme situations, like if there is a mass mutant revolt.
    >There are Punisher copycats, or organized groups across America.
    >Laws and accomidations are under way for superhumans and mutants ins sports.
    >The first superhuman or mutant is put to death, maybe Norman Osborne or Magneto.
    >Xavier and his X-Men take a stand against the Government and are labeled as trators, maybe because Xavier doesnt want magneto executed.
    >Efforts are underway to explore fully the Negative Zone for its resources like extra space for housing or a place to keep prisoners.

    And to keep it believable and Ultimate, the public is unaware of most of this.
    These are just some ideas for story lines or things Id like to see addressed in the Ultimate Marvel Comics

    What ideas or or stories would you like to see or get addressed in the Ultimate Marvel comics?
     
  2. Brodie The Wise

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  3. The Question

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    Well, there are three aspects of that I wasn't too big with. One was the super soldier thing. The super soldier formula would probably be quite expensive to manufacture. So, I would think that only a few select soldiers would get it.


    The second, for the mutant thing, I kind of like what the Ultimates have shown, with only some mutants having powers and the rest just being weird looking or have an extra rib or something.

    And the third is the superhumans aging slower. Why would the all age slower? I mean, the Fantastic Four don't really have powers that would make you think they'd age slower.
     
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    The slow aging is probably jsut a way to justify keping them 20 forever.
     
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    At some point,I'd like to see Daredevil be a type of teacher to Spider-Man. maybe then Peter's mask wouldn't come off so damn much.:o
     
  6. The Question

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    It would be cool if Daredevil became Spider-Man's mentor, and was a total hard ass about it, thus creating some good conflict.
     
  7. Zoken

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    Ultimate Warriors: a SHEILD program for its meta-human "Draftees". the star of the program is Spider-Man, but you also have a guy named Speedball, Shang Chi (that no one will believe has no meta-human powers), and a young woman known only as X-23. and a man called Nova.
     
  8. Artistsean

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    I was going to say that all SHEILD agents were injected and bhecame super soldiers, but thats already happened. Plus the Super Soldier serum and project was created to turn America's soldiers into super humans. So if they can mass produce the formula why not make all soldiers super?

    I also like the idea that not all mutants have powers like the X-Men, some have minor mutataions. What I was suggesting was that a few mutants here and there have powers that ere more aggressive than mutants in the past. But not all mutants. Most of the mutant population, which has grown considerably, would have very minor mutations or just look different.

    The aging thing was sort of just to have an excuse why they can stay in their 20s. But It came from the idea that the Fantastic Four dont age at all. Reed and Sue discover that Reed doesnt need to eat and that his organs have sort of changed. In fact they said that Reed doesnt breath, instead he is like a plant sort of thing in how he breaths. and Ben doesnt eat or poop either. So I thought since their bodies have changed so much, almost to the point where they arent human anymore, maybe they dont age either. Maybe 30 years from now their bodies are in exactly the same condition they are in now as far as deterioration.
    Then I was thinking maybe Captain America ages, but not as fast as the average human because of the super soldier serum. Maybe he ages a year for every 5 or 10 years. And because Spider-Man was created as an accident from Osborune Inc trying to recreate the super soldier serum, maybe he ages slower too. But probably a little faster than Captain America.

    A Daredevil/Spider-Man Techer/Student thing would be cool. Daredevil hates Spider-Man so he would probably do it to stop him from being so reckless and getting on DD's nerves. But then he would be forced to be around Spider-Man all the time. Plus then they could both go after Kingpin and DD's connection to Kingpin can be revealed and made stronger in the Ultimate universe.
    Ultimate Warriors would be interesting, it could be Spider-Man's first days or missions with SHEILD.

    Another thing Id like to see, which they do more in the Ultimates, is to make the Superhuman world less common place and less known to the public. I read that thats what they wanted it to be like, but they didnt think they really did that. They added things like saying that the public believed that the alein invasion the Ultimates faced was a hoax, or people in New York thinking Spider-Man was a publicity stunt for wrestling.
    maybe they could do stuff like that, I dont know.

    The idea is that the ideas I stated earlier would happen slowly, not all at once.

    But they are just my ideas.
     
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    Son read the books, half the stuff your thinking is already in effect or pointless.
     
  10. Artistsean

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    All these ideas are just me shooting out every idea I can, good ideas, bad ideas, big ideas and small ideas. They include big story ideas, with arcs and such, and they include small burbs Id like to see mentioned here and there but not focused on.

    Peter becoming a SHEILD agent, leaving Spider-Man in the past, could be just a plot idea. not perminant.

    The Ultron idea i must have missed in the comics, Id like to see more of it though if it did. What happened in it anyway, maybe I just forgot it.

    Sentinel idea, just sort of spit balling ideas. Throwing alot out there, some good some bad. Seeing what people think.

    The Weapon X being reinstated would be different, it would be just another branch of SHEILD but for mutant agents. They would be treated better. It coud just be mentioned, like some of the other ideas, and not focused on.

    Id like to see Wolverine find out more about his past than the regular universes Wolverine.

    the half of the population is sort of bad, but this would probably be way in the future. I was just thinking that the evolution of people wouldnt just stop with a few. It would sort of continue, maybe not to the point where half of the world is mutant in the next 20 years though.

    mutants registering powers, again it could just be mentioned. Sort of hinting at a Days of Futures Past possible future. Maybe mutants could protest, but it isnt focused on a great deal. It would just be like listing who is a mutant and what power they have on their drivers liscence, and then filed in their legal records. Their name would be in a data base of known mutants and their powers.

    Someone is running Osborne Inc, Harry sort of was when his father left. Then he turned into a Goblin, maybe someone else took over and is trying to turn the company around.

    It would be realistic to have some former super humans try for government offices, much like Celebraties becoming Senators and Goveners, and Presidents. Plus this could introduce Black Panther without making him just another super hero, he could rarely be in costume if ever. So who is in government office with super powers, I guess it was something I missed?

    I would like to see, if maybe for a little while or a short story, Xavier take a stand against the Government in the isue of Executing Magneto, or registering mutant powers, and then be considered public enemy number one.

    But again, just telling all the ideas I have whether they are good or not. Seeing which ones people like and which ones they dont. I like them, or some of them anyway, but you dont have to. I do read alot of them, but not every single one. I dont have that much money, or time. So Im sure Ive missed some stuff. I have actually missed some recent, Im waiting till the graphic novals come out.
     
  11. hippie_hunter

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    Spider-Man will be forced to join the Ultimates

    Ultimate Northstar is 100% straight. He's a manly man and bangs about an average of 8 women daily
     
  12. The Question

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    Ultimate Northstar's already apeared. He's dating Colosus.
     
  13. Artistsean

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    When did they say Colossus was gay? I remember reading it in Wizard around issue 8 or 10, and I dont think it was even mentioned in the comics at that time.

    By the way, heres my idea for Ultimate Northstar and his twin sister Aurora
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    He is still gay in my version.
     
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    The one i like the most, but i would tweak it, cause ive been thinking the same thing.
    Spider-Man becoming an official agent of shield, but stays as Spider-man, and does the shield thing on a must need basis.
     
  15. Zoken

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    I think it would be interesting to see Ultimate Spider-Man put on the Ultimates squad at 18, have everyone treat him like a newbie, like some wet behind the ears kid, and then have him tell them that they are doing everything bass ackwards. pointing out ways they could have handled problems better. show that since he's been doing this since before they were a team, he's the real old hand, and their the wannabes.
     
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    Id like that Zoken
    I like the Punisher copycats
    Government killing a supervillian good idea, they dont need to bring the character back but its comics they always could be brought back somehow
    Legacy Virus good
    Mutant population higher, I dont like, they couldve just left the 616 universe the way it was.
    Am i a mutant i have an extra set of ribs?
     
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    So, you'd be killing Captain America too:eek:
     
  18. Zoken

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    nah, I guess Cap would the exception to the "Put them in their place" thing. Cap would of course still have more experience, but I'd still like them to take notice that they have pointed out that Peter is stronger and faster than cap. almost as smart as any of their geneiuses. all he has to do is get over the "hero-factor" and he could take them all on.
     
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    Technically? Yes. You have a genetic mutation.
     
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    My idea for the mutants was only that the mutations would just halt. organisms would keeps evolving at the same rate. Some plants and some animals would show little mutations, and a few more people would too, and maybe the ones that are showing bigger ones have more aggressive mutations, sort of like defense mechanisms.

    Aother Idea
    Ultimate Mimic.
    He is a young teenager who is sort of a mutant. He only has powers when he is around other mutants, he can Mimic up to five different powers at once. once he has mimiced their powers, sort of by copying their DNA strand that is mutated, he can keep it. But to be able to mimic it he has to be close to the mutant he is mimicing. But without mutants he is normal, sort of.
    He isnt human, but he isnt a mutant.

    Mimic is just one of several people caught in between, they dont feel like they belong with either the humans or mutants. Another man stuck in the middle is Black Tom Cassidy.
    Tom is able to blast energy from his body but he can only do this through wood. The wood is a conductor, the energy flows from his body, through the wood, and out the wood at his target.
    Similar to Mimic, without the wood Tom Cassidy would be sort of normal.

    They arent accepted most of the time by either side. Humans see them as mutants, and while Xavier and his X-Men and many mutants are accepting of them, some arent. those mutants have dubbed them the Half-Mutants.
    Xavier has noted that there are levels or mutations, these humans are in the middle, stuck between average humans and full mutants.
     
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    i would like to see a story where mutents and superhumans are put into cage maches (ie fights to the death) and the Ults. and X-men investage it only to end up haveing Cap and Wolverine end up fighting each other. i could see Wolverine wanting a pice of cap after he owned him in Ult. War.

    Wloverine: Where are your weapons now?

    Cap: Right here.
    (kicks Wolverine in the nuts.)
     
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    :confused: He can keep the mutation but can only use it when the mutant is near?
     
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    :confused: He can keep the mutation but can only use it when the mutant is near?
     
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    Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  25. Artistsean

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    What I was meaning was he can only use his mutant power to copy someone elses power when they are there, but once he has it it doesnt go away.
    But now that I think about it, he should probably only have that power while that mutant is in the room.
    so if he is fighting Kitty Pride, Cyclops, Logan, Colossus, and Storm, he can mimic all their powers. But once one of them leaves the radius of his mimicry he looses that power. Or say he is fighting one person like the Blob, he can only mimic that power.
    Yeagh, that works alot better.

    So thats my Ultimate Mimic, can mimic up to five mutants at once as long as they are in a certain proximirty to him. If he isnt around mutants at all he cannot have any powers.
    and if he is around forty then its his choice.
    At first he probably couldnt control who he mimiced, when he was around so many, but with help he probably learned how to choose.
     

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