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The General Comic Discussion Thread - Part 2

The Absolute books are very well written, and I mean that especially for Wonder Woman which has been great. But I don’t see myself reading any of them long term. It’s hard enough for me to keep up with what’s going on in one continuity without having to keep two continuities straight.

You guys have smarter, or at least more focused minds than me! Lol
 
Absolute Martian Manhunter
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- Absolute Martian Manhunter was a trip. Easily my favorite of the new batch, despite Green Lantern dropping soon. It felt like a Vertigo reinvention of a character. The artwork was brilliant. The writing was exceptional. This is the title to watch, I think.

- Absolute Wonder Woman was also another great issue. I was hesitant when I saw that Hayden Sherman wasn't doing the interiors but Martian De Iulis...man, what an artist. His style is evocative of Ricardo Federici and Esad Ribic. It just really blew me away. It's a different direction that also feels incredibly consistent tonally with the approach of the character. I also loved the two one-page Dustin Nguyen "L'il Diana" shorts. Really digging what Kelly Thompson has been doing with this book.

- Wonder Woman #19. One door closes, another one opens. A satisfying conclusion to the initial battles but the war continues as it seems Diana has much more on her plate. I look forward to seeing King writes Diana now that it seems The Sovereign is taking a back seat for now. This arc has really solidified the idea that Diana is perpetually underestimated and, perhaps more than Superman and Batman, perpetually rises to the challenge with ease.

- The Flash #19. I've had a hard time with this Eclipso arc. The artwork really sucks. Spurrier is too good a writer to be phoning it in like this. I had a difficult time trying to finish this issue. It just feels half-assed and directionless and the idea that this Eclipso stuff is still going on by June is just frustrating. Maybe they'll be a change come issue #24 but man...it can't come soon enough. Shorter arcs and a better artist would do wonders. The Flash shouldn't feel like a D-List title.

- Black Canary #5. Can't say I've ever been a boxing fan. Outside of the Rocky movies, the only time I've exposed myself to boxing was the Tyson/Paul fight from a few months ago. On that note, I found the commentators for that fight to be overwhelmingly obnoxious. Thus, I find the commentators in this book to be equally obnoxious and I'm here for the ride. It's very Celebrity Death Match in a way. It's farcical how these guys are treating two people trying, quite literally, to kill each other as grand spectacle. That said, there's a lot of heart here and King does a solid job showcasing Black Canary as a cool character but maybe this wasn't the best way to go about it. It seems much more superficial than King's usual deep dives into the humanity of these characters. But with one issue to go, we'll see how he lands it.
 
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At the event, Waid said that the New History of the DC Universe will be a timeline of DC history as if you are a person living inside the DC Universe. Each issue of the extra-sized four-part series will have an inclusive timeline featuring more details not in the comic itself, as well as some additional characters.

Waid says that as a longtime DC fan-turned-editor-turned-writer-but-always-a-fan, DC continuity has a lot of contradictory information, but that he worked closely with DC's editorial team - including DC editor-in-chief Marie Javins who was on hand at the panel - to steer him the right direction.

They managed to “narrow it down to what works,” says Waid. The writer says the guiding principle of the whole story is answering the question 'What are the most important moments in the DC Universe?'.

The New History of the DC Universe #1 (of 4) will launch June 25.

I am surprised that DC is finally stop being lazy with "everything happened" and trying to get something semi concrete
 

I am surprised that DC is finally stop being lazy with "everything happened" and trying to get something semi concrete
Isn't this basically the same as DC Universe Legacies? Especially the part of being from the POV of a civilian.

Granted this comic is 15 years old, so a lot has changed since then.
 
Absolute Green Lantern was the weakest debut of the 6 titles.
 
Anyone hyped for Sophie Campbell's Supergirl? I will have to look at her TMNT run.

I stopped buying floppies a few years back, but I will try to nab Artgerm's variant. :atp:

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I just don't want Kara to be treated as s teenager again or a Superman clone. Esp after being written more mature in the super titles.

Lena Luthor being brought in...not excited about that. But we'll see
 
Reading that story, I have newfound respect for Morrison since they recommend Peace on Earth as essential Superman reading. Very underrated story.
 
Largely a week of disappointments.

- Last Days of Lex Luther #3. I read the whole story in one sitting. The conclusion left me fairly cold. While I can somewhat appreciate the nods to the silver age zaniness and Birthright, I found the whole thing to be pretty underwhelming. The philosophical challenge of Superman wanting to save Luther has some merit, but the ultimate twist of the story feels a bit like a cop-out and lacks any of the emotional resonance such a story needs to really make an impact. The IDEA of the conclusion is appropriate and very much in-character. The execution just felt too distant to land solidly. On top of that, I really don't like Hutch's artwork. Whatever dynamic he once had back in the 90s and early 2000s has been replaced by a lifeless, "dead eye" look that not even master Kevin Nowlan can save. Ultimately, if you threw this down at the poker table, I'd see you and raise a certain two-part Alan Moore story that would compel you to fold with shame.

- Finally got around to Absolute Green Lantern #1. Not a fan. It feels like one half of a part one and not in any shape or form was it good enough to justify that. I really can't stand comics that fashion themselves as TV pilots. I hate it even more when first issues fashion themselves as TV pilots that conclude at the first commercial break. Ewing is usually an interesting writer and I'm morbidly curious to see how he handles the lore but the artwork is not good at all. I think I'll be going digital with this one.

- Absolute Flash #2. More of the same. It's too protracted to keep my attention. For a book about a guy who runs really fast, the pacing here is glacial. Solid artwork but I don't have much interest in buying the book for a story that's taking it's time even getting started. To the digital read list.

- Even New Gods #5 suffers roughly the same issue. The New Genesis stuff has been interesting. As has the Mister Miracle & Barda stuff on earth but the earth bound stuff is moving in Dragon Ball Z time. Even so, this is still one of the better books on the stands.

- Flash #20. Not even sure why I'm reading this book at this point. It feels like DC told Spurrier to tone down the esoteric weirdness and tell a superhero story, and the demand all but sucked the wind out of Spurrier's sails. The artwork is C-Level. The story is meandering and boring, and way too long.

- Absolute Wonder Woman #7 was fantastic. The artwork continues to be beautiful, as does the story. Continue as normal.

- Wonder Woman #20. King delivers the goods. The first half of a 2-part murder mystery sees Bruce and Diana investigate the apparent murder of Ares by Hypolyta of all people. We get a rather quick but poignant examination of Bruce and Diana's friendship, in a page that might be one of King's best. For those looking to replace those two iffy issues of King's Batman run, I suspect this and #21 will do the trick.

- Absolute Martian Manhunter #2. This book is everything I wanted from the Absolute line. It works likely because the Martian Manhunter really has no proper grounding in the DCU like the other characters: no definitive origin told ad nauseam. No rogues gallery. No evergreen classic stories. MM just has the Ostrander/Mandrake run that DC has foolishly kept uncollected and incomplete, and JLI which portrays a very specific aspect of the character. Absolute MM feels like a Vertigo book of old. A ground up reimagining of a character so as to almost be a new character. The echos of Shade The Changing Man are strong in this book. It's trippy and weird and well written.

I think what Absolute MM does, for better or worse, is reveal the limited shelf life of this entire line. The Flash feels like mainline Flash with a glossy makeover. The surface level details may be different but everything else feels like the mainline versions of the characters. Flash vs The Rogues...BUT DIFFERENT! Superman is a champion of the people...BUT DIFFERENT. Batman vs Mr Freeze... BUT DIFFERENT! But the differences either aren't that good or not different enough to be worth while.

Absolute Wonder Woman seems less preoccupied with any of that, focussing more in building up that very particular world, which is why I'm probably enjoying it the most. But once they start doing Absolute Cheetah and Absolute Silver Swan I'm more than likely gonna be out the door. We shall see.
 

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