The Grits Gonna Hit The Wrestling Thread! - Part 22

[Nemi]

So let me get this straight...Punk won the title last night but actually isn't coming back? This wasn't all just part of the storyline? I know his contract was up but he didn't sign and they're keeping it hush hush? And now Vince is going to be off TV for now?

Sorry, I only recently started watching again when this CM Punk stuff started happening. Seems like the only interesting thing I've heard about WWE in the past 5-6 years.

Nobody knows except for CM Punk, Vince and probably Triple H. They are doing everything they can to sell this as real so they're avoiding having CM Punk show up on the very next show or running around still wearing his ring gear. At the moment he's just running around having fun and taking pictures with the belt. I hope that Monday there are enough pictures to fill a coffee book called ''The whimsical adventures of CM Punk and the WWE Championship".

 

[Metamorpho1977]

Anyone notice Vince slip and say WWF to Rey?

Good, I wasn't the only one to notice that.

 

[Kaleb]

 

[Benstamania]

Yeah, I just read that Xpac said McMahon transferring the power is legit. That he was mentally unfit...

 

[Benstamania]

Joey Styles is returning to commentary on Thursday.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/art...es-returning-to-announcing-on-thursday-133033

 

[Slushy]

CM Punk, the champion of the Pepsi Wrestling Federation!

 

[Metallo]

The loss of the WWE Championship was probably the last straw.

Jeez Sage I know. I said so myself. But there were far bigger things that should have been the last straw. This is MINOR in comparison.

Selling Raw to Donald Trump without long term negotiations or possibly board approval then buying it back at a HUGE loss?

Involving "federal" authorities in a "faked" death case. Faking your death for certain reasons IS illegal y'know. Those kinds of things would, in a business environment, be seen as FAR more unbalanced and damaging to a company than Vince letting a champion walk with the WWE title or firing Cena. It affects the image of the company and shareholder confidence in it.

If you remember when Vince sold Raw it really DID concern some shareholders even though it was just a storyline.

Like I said the inconsistency here is the silly part. if WWE decides to suddenly do a "realistic" business related storyline then they open themselves up to be criticized for it.

 

[Kaleb]

I hope Bourne doesn't get in trouble for smiling on camera when he's clearly supposed to be in a somber mood.

Yeah its Paul London all over again

 

[Metallo]

Um, because Cena the person was still an employee of WWE. Cena, the person, wasn't fired in real life. That's why Cena, the character, kept showing up on WWE.

No sh** sherlock. That doesn't explain what happened IN storyline and that wasn't even the point of the discussion. Cena SAID he'd go somewhere else and wrestle if he was fired. He didn't. Do you even read what people say or are you always so ready frothing at the mouth with your own brand of IWC fanboy snark?

Even still...WWE security HAS kept people out and made a point to say they couldn't be there unless they had a ticket. Matt Hardy, remember?

Point is when Cena WAS kayfabe fired (for like a few days) he fight tooth and nail to stay IN WWE. because hes a WWE guy through and through. Not a guy who wanted to go just anywhere to work.

It makes zero sense for Cena to go on and on about WWE and how he loves it (and criticisms towards the Rock for LEAVING IT) then threaten to go somewhere else like TNA to work.

 

[Metallo]

well that was meh, the ending though good storyline wise, it just seems daft it would have been better if HHH suspened cena for a month or 2 as punishment.

the tna reference was just for cheap pops, and seemed forced

the tournament was a joke none deserved to be going for the title yet. they are all upper/lower mid carders not main events, it seemed like an intercontinental/us title tournament rather than a wwe title

sorry the sooner the likes of del rio and miz bugger off to the mid card again the better the guys is crap on the mic and its a repeat of the same thing each week

the fact they have just built up cena and orton is really showing now that there is no one on the roster that has any place of being top champ

Good point, Evil. I felt the same way. The tournament didn't feel all that special or big because almost everyone involved in it had very little star power. Half those guys haven't even been in good midcard title programs recently.

It showed the problem WWE has created by not working harder to elevate new talent to that level when there is a void in the main event to be filled.

Joey Styles is returning to commentary on Thursday.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/art...es-returning-to-announcing-on-thursday-133033

Thank goodness. Now lets hope hes eventually transitioned over to Raw.

Then he should use it to summon lightning and strike down the Undertaker at Wrestlemania--right before Punk steals it and wins the match (despite not being part of the match, or employed), thus breaking the streak and becoming the new WWE Chairman.

You mean...The McMahonson should carry Sledgenir?

 

[Benstamania]

I sure hope Styles replaces Cole.

 

[SuperBatman]

On Thursday? Doesn't he mean Friday?

 

[Metallo]

At this point I'd even take Todd Pettengill replacing Cole.

 

[louiebling$]

i reeeeaaaally hate saying this but id take scott stanford over cole right now

 

[Metallo]

I'd easily take Scott Hudson over Cole.

Really anyone short of Mike Adamle would be preferable.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

No sh** sherlock. That doesn't explain what happened IN storyline and that wasn't even the point of the discussion. Cena SAID he'd go somewhere else and wrestle if he was fired. He didn't. Do you even read what people say or are you always so ready frothing at the mouth with your own brand of IWC fanboy snark?

Even still...WWE security HAS kept people out and made a point to say they couldn't be there unless they had a ticket. Matt Hardy, remember?

Point is when Cena WAS kayfabe fired (for like a few days) he fight tooth and nail to stay IN WWE. because hes a WWE guy through and through. Not a guy who wanted to go just anywhere to work.

It makes zero sense for Cena to go on and on about WWE and how he loves it (and criticisms towards the Rock for LEAVING IT) then threaten to go somewhere else like TNA to work.

Dude said he thought JOHN CENA THE PERSON would wrestle in front of 5 dudes in a gym, then you start running off talking about how JOHN CENA THE CHARACTER couldn't stay away from Raw. John Cena the person has never been fired from WWE to where wrestling in front of 5 dudes in a gym was his only option.

 

[Benstamania]

I'd easily take Scott Hudson over Cole.

Really anyone short of Mike Adamle would be preferable.

I'd take Tony Schiavone over Cole.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I'd take Tony Schiavone over Cole.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, that's too far there, dude. This is a family website; I'm surprised the censors here didn't automatically *** out that name.

 

[Team Andino]

On Thursday? Doesn't he mean Friday?

My guess is he'll be doing announcing for the Smackdown side of WWE Superstars which airs online only on Thursdays.

 

[Metallo]

Dude said he thought JOHN CENA THE PERSON would wrestle in front of 5 dudes in a gym, then you start running off talking about how JOHN CENA THE CHARACTER couldn't stay away from Raw. John Cena the person has never been fired from WWE to where wrestling in front of 5 dudes in a gym was his only option.

I've been talking about John Cena the character the whole damn time. Jesus are you blind and deaf? CENA was talking about John Cena THE CHARACTER on Raw and what he would do IN CHARACTER. Thats what I'm talking about. I wasn't referring to John Cena the person as far as the STORY inconsistencies between Cenas two separate firing stories.

Thats what Wylie and I were talking about that thats what he was responding to. But even with John Cena the person he's never gone anywhere else and he's made comments to the effect that he never will. Thats Cena THE PERSON.

You're making some half assed b**** fest over TWO separate issues here. Cena the person MIGHT go wrestle somewhere else but I highly doubt that. Why would he want to since he's always been a die hard WWE fan since childhood and financially TNA couldn't make his salary anyway? Thats a different subject

Cena THE character was fired by Barrett and tried to come back because he said he loved WWE more than anything. Then Cena THE character said he'd go to TNA to keep wrestling. THATS the inconsistency. Thats what I'm talking about.

But you skipped where the discussion started all and jumped right to the middle and another comment ignoring what lead to it.

Do you not f***ing see that or are you putting your WWE blinders on again cause anybody who disagrees with you HAS to be wrong cause thats how the IWC supposedly is? Jesus Christ your the very kind of IWC smark you always try to label others as in some stupid derogatory way.

People can't even come here without you getting on your damn soap box to complain about the IWC. They criticize the product and then YOU criticize THEM. Do you take it that personally? You are the posterboy for the IWC smark with that kind of nonsense.

If you hate the IWC so much why are you on the internet talking about wrestling in an online community? You ARE the f***in IWC.


Reread what I said

Thats probably true to a degree but if thats all true then why did Cena immediately show up at WWE shows and sneak attack Nexus after Barrett "fired" him?

Thats me making the distinction between Cena the person and Cena the character. My POINT is that still doesn't explain the character inconsistency when it came to Cenas two separate firing stories. The show is still a blending of fantasty and reality...just like what we saw with the Punk story. Some of the REAL Cena bleeds over into the character and vice versa. Do you get it?

 

[The Sage]

Jeez Sage I know. I said so myself. But there were far bigger things that should have been the last straw. This is MINOR in comparison.

Selling Raw to Donald Trump without long term negotiations or possibly board approval then buying it back at a HUGE loss?

Involving "federal" authorities in a "faked" death case. Faking your death for certain reasons IS illegal y'know. Those kinds of things would, in a business environment, be seen as FAR more unbalanced and damaging to a company than Vince letting a champion walk with the WWE title or firing Cena. It affects the image of the company and shareholder confidence in it.

If you remember when Vince sold Raw it really DID concern some shareholders even though it was just a storyline.

Like I said the inconsistency here is the silly part. if WWE decides to suddenly do a "realistic" business related storyline then they open themselves up to be criticized for it.

My bad man, I didn't see that before.

I'm not disagreeing. WWE has selective memory and continuity. We just got off a Wrestlemania with Triple H vs Undertaker and they promoted as if Taker hadn't already beaten the Game at Wrestlemania. So they're clearly picking and choosing what to use. With this storyline, they're basing it off of the events of the last month or so.

 

[Metallo]

I'd take Tony Schiavone over Cole.

Tony "This is the greatest night in the history of our sport!" Schiavone?

Yeah I think I'd probably take that over "Vintage" Cole any day as well.

 

[The Sage]

- John Morrison and Drew McIntyre have been added to this Friday night's FCW event at the Melbourne Auditorium in Melbourne, Florida.

- Michael Cole will be appearing on tonight's episode of Shawn Michaels' hunting show on the Outdoor Channel. HBK wrote the following about tonight's episode: "Just reviewed 2morrors MRA show. I sure hope everybody has a sense of humor. @MichaelCole is gonna b hated in the outdoor biz as well"

- Word is that some parts of the CM Punk-WWE storyline won't be playing out directly on WWE TV. We will likely be seeing the storyline play out over WWE's website and CM Punk's Twitter, like we saw last night while he was at the Chicago Cubs game.

- After going on sale yesterday, WWE has reportedly sold out of the VIP WrestleMania 28 travel packages. Silver, Gold and Platinum packages are still available.

- Todd Grisham wrote the following on Twitter last night, which just may be a joke on all of the recent buzz: "This just in...Triple H's first act as new WWE Chairman is to reinstate WWE Ice Cream Bars."

- WWE will tape NXT and SmackDown tonight from the Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota. TV matches for SmackDown include Randy Orton vs. Kane in a Street Fight and Cody Rhodes vs. Ezekiel Jackson for the Intercontinental Title. On tonight's NXT, it's expected that the field of Rookies will be cut down to 2. Currently on the show is Titus O'Neil, Darren Young and Derrick Bateman.

- Several ideas have been thrown around WWE in regards to the CM Punk storyline. One of the ideas being thrown around is to use this as a way to finally get rid of the spinner WWE Title belt.

- WWE will be returning to Chicago on December 26th for RAW at the All-State Arena.

- Lita will be appearing at AWE's Awesome Night of the Legends on October 15th in Fisherville, Virginia. Also in action will be Kevin Nash, Diamond Dallas Page, Finlay, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Terry Funk, Sunny and others.

- Charlie Haas noted on Twitter that his wife, former WWE Diva Jackie Gayda-Haas, placed 3rd out of 37 competitors in the Branch Warren Classic fitness/bodybuilding competition. Jackie has qualified for the nationals.

- Word going around yesterday and at last night's RAW was that WWE will not be bringing Sin Cara back after he failed a Wellness test. As noted before, it's believed that Cara actually failed the test in mid-June but was just suspended yesterday. There is a lot of heat on Cara for the suspension because he's been promoted as Triple H's first major international hire.

Partial source: F4Wonline.com

 

[louiebling$]

them not bringing back sin cara? its believable considering how much heat he has been getting as of late

 

[Benstamania]

My bad man, I didn't see that before.

I'm not disagreeing. WWE has selective memory and continuity. We just got off a Wrestlemania with Triple H vs Undertaker and they promoted as if Taker hadn't already beaten the Game at Wrestlemania. So they're clearly picking and choosing what to use. With this storyline, they're basing it off of the events of the last month or so.

Yeah. Wrestling is and always has been a soap opera for males. Actual soap operas pick and choose story line all the time. So, I'm not shocked. I'm still excited to see where this goes.