The Harry Potter Thread!

[Sawyer]

I really hope JK Rowling goes through with her plans to do that encyclopedia she was talking about. I think it'd be one helluva great read.

 

[Doc Ock]

I'm a huge Harry Potter fan and The Order of the Phoenix is my favorite book. I have read each book twice and plan to begin the third round very soon before the release of the Deathly Hallows part 1 in theaters.

 

[zanos]

Honestly I think I would have preferred Harry and Luna vs Harry and Ginny.

Whoever said it was right in saying Ginny/Harry seems very forced. I'm re-reading the series currently and I'm on the fifth right now... and there is not ONE inkling of a hint of it. They aren't even that great of friends.

At least with Ron/Hermione there was CLEAR buildup

How on earth does anyone come to that conclusion about Ron and Hermione? Does arguing all of a sudden equate into a budding romance? One minute they're friends and the very next they like each other. That was probably one of the ludicrously written romances ever written.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

In reality, a lot of romances stem from virtually nothing. It's pretty realistic for Harry and Ginny's relationship to come out of nowhere.

 

[Victarion]

What were your thoughts on the Horcruxes as you read HP&THBP? I thought it seemed like a weak attempt at tying the later books back to the early ones, but by the time TDH came out, I thought they were a neat bit of magic.

 

[Avengers-Report]

I'm pretty sure Rowling had the Horcruxes planned out since book number one.

 

[Matt]

J.K. Rowling says in interview that she regrets pairing Ron and Hermione...should've been Harry and Hermione

Sometimes I think Rowling just says things to stay in the spotlight. First Dumbledore was gay, now this. Either write another Potter book or don't, but don't go contradicting the canon just for the hell of it. Doing so is a disservice to the fans.

 

[Swordmaster]

Dumbledore being gay is fine, there was at least the subtext with Grindelwald to support it. But Ron and Hermione is in text, and unless she comes out with a sequel series that retcons the epilogue, this is just her saying words that really mean nothing in the context of the literature.

 

[Liam_H]

Lol. I always preferred Harry/Hermione strongly so to hear her say this now brings me small bit of joy however meaningless it is.

 

[Marvolo]

Dumbledore being gay is fine, there was at least the subtext with Grindelwald to support it. But Ron and Hermione is in text, and unless she comes out with a sequel series that retcons the epilogue, this is just her saying words that really mean nothing in the context of the literature.

The epilogue never should have made it past the editor. It is poorly written and reads like cheap fan fiction. Even the names of the children is just...piss poor.

She has talked about going back and adding material and touching up the books in a director's cut style thing. Similar to what Stephen King did with the Stand. I think its been over a year since she's mentioned it tho. If she ever gets around to doing that the Deathly Hallows epilogue may be changed.

There is the possibility that after the events in DH Ron and Hermione didn't work out. I could see that happening. In fact it's very believable. More so than them getting married and having children. So if she wants to edit out that god-awful epilogue and replace it with something else she's got my full support.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

I always thought Harry and Hermione should have ended up together so I'm glad even Rowling thinks the same thing. The chemistry between Daniel and Emma didn't help either.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So she finally admitted it. Harry and Hermione is still the most obvious thing. To the point that she did have to force Ron and Hermione to a ridiculous amount, and it hurts the last two books. There is no way whatsoever they could be convincingly happy unless Ron turned into a completely different person. The flow of the books and especially OotP was setting up Harry and Hermione as a relationship as something beyond the base.

 

[Drizzle]

See, I was completely fine with Ron and Hermione being together in the books. But there's no question in my mind that Emma Watson had better chemistry with Daniel Radcliffe than she did with Rupert Grint.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

See, I was completely fine with Ron and Hermione being together in the books. But there's no question in my mind that Emma Watson had better chemistry with Daniel Radcliffe than she did with Rupert Grint.

Which I never understood. Ron and Hermione is serious bad writing. JK grew as author as the books went along, but that part was always seriously weak, especially in comparison to what she had going on with Harry and Hermione. Like her losing it because the Department of Mysteries. In an effort to make Ron and Hermione work, and it never did, she messed with the Harry/Hermione relationship (I call it randomly grouchy Harry), while forcing Ginny into the situation. It is why HBP isn't near the other books, as a lot of it is a game of trying to make the wrong work.

 

[Marvolo]

Which I never understood. Ron and Hermione is serious bad writing. JK grew as author as the books went along, but that part was always seriously weak, especially in comparison to what she had going on with Harry and Hermione. Like her losing it because the Department of Mysteries. In an effort to make Ron and Hermione work, and it never did, she messed with the Harry/Hermione relationship (I call it randomly grouchy Harry), while forcing Ginny into the situation. It is why HBP isn't near the other books, as a lot of it is a game of trying to make the wrong work.

Care to elaborate? It's been too long since I've read OOTP, but I don't remember any strong Harry/Hermione vibes last time I read it.

 

[Matt]

Care to elaborate? It's been too long since I've read OOTP, but I don't remember any strong Harry/Hermione vibes last time I read it.

Nor I. In fact, Hermione and Harry's friendship and almost sibling-like relationship is one of the best parts of Rowling's writing. I feel like people who project romantic overtones onto it are simply incapable of understanding how two members of the opposite sex could develop a close, non-sexual friendship.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Care to elaborate? It's been too long since I've read OOTP, but I don't remember any strong Harry/Hermione vibes last time I read it.

Hermione gets Harry and unlike anyone else, she understood his flaws. Stuff like Broom-gate in PoA and her comments about his hero complex in OotP.

The sequence that always stuck out in my mind was the Battle Department of Mysteries. Hermione and Harry's argument about going in the first place, there understanding of one another by simply holding hands when confronted, Harry's reaction to believing Hermione is dead.

There is a real understanding and care between the two that is missing with all the other characters, especially in the first 5 books. She is the one that never abandons him. The one time she does, it is his choice, him pushing her away because he is angry about the broom in PoA. Then there is stuff like his reaction to her at the ball in GoF and the "kiss" at the end.

Nor I. In fact, Hermione and Harry's friendship and almost sibling-like relationship is one of the best parts of Rowling's writing. I feel like people who project romantic overtones onto it are simply incapable of understanding how two members of the opposite sex could develop a close, non-sexual friendship.

The steadfast sibling-like relationship comes with her determination to writer Hermione and Harry away from one another. There is a reason she hits so bluntly with it in HBP and DH. Hermione was the one always standing in front of Harry that he didn't notice, not Ginny.

That is the point of the new quote. JK became so determined to make Harry a part of the Weasleys, to give him a "family", while getting Ron and Hermione together it effected how she wrote. I have been saying this for years, and JK literally confirmed.

 

[Marvolo]

Hermione gets Harry and unlike anyone else, she understood his flaws. Stuff like Broom-gate in PoA and her comments about his hero complex in OotP.

The sequence that always stuck out in my mind was the Battle Department of Mysteries. Hermione and Harry's argument about going in the first place, there understanding of one another by simply holding hands when confronted, Harry's reaction to believing Hermione is dead.

There is a real understanding and care between the two that is missing with all the other characters, especially in the first 5 books. She is the one that never abandons him. The one time she does, it is his choice, him pushing her away because he is angry about the broom in PoA. Then there is stuff like his reaction to her at the ball in GoF and the "kiss" at the end.


The steadfast sibling-like relationship comes with her determination to writer Hermione and Harry away from one another. There is a reason she hits so bluntly with it in HBP and DH. Hermione was the one always standing in front of Harry that he didn't notice, not Ginny.

That is the point of the new quote. JK became so determined to make Harry a part of the Weasleys, to give him a "family", while getting Ron and Hermione together it effected how she wrote. I have been saying this for years, and JK literally confirmed.

Harry and Hermione seemed like siblings long before HBP and DH IMO. Even back in 2003 Alfonso Cuaron correctly called the Ron/Hermione relationship. JK Rowling has said since then that Cauron correctly called that bit in his film. She was setting that up for a while.

Truth is tho just because the three care about each other and Hermione gets Harry it doesn't mean they'd work out in a relationship. None of them should have been hooked up together. It's a bit too incestuous for my liking and it's rarely how real life relationships go. Heck, look at the actors themselves. They see each other as siblings cause they've been together for so long. Emma had trouble kissing both Dan and Rupert. I mean, when you've known someone from the time they were 9 or 10 you don't really see them romantically. Ron, Hermione, and Harry should have each had their own love interest. Hermione should have stayed single at the end and went on to pursue knowledge and a career in helping those suffering or being persecuted. Her future husband could have been introduced in the epilogue. A nice smart man she met on her travels or something. That was where she was going. Not being Ron's wife and baby maker.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Harry and Hermione seemed like siblings long before HBP and DH IMO. Even back in 2003 Alfonso Cuaron correctly called the Ron/Hermione relationship. JK Rowling has said since then that Cauron correctly called that bit in his film. She was setting that up for a while.

No one ever said she wasn't setting it up. That is the inherent problem with forcing it. She tried, and tried and it never really worked. Harry and Hermione was natural within the characters and the books. She has admitted that now.

Having sibling like tendencies when you are younger can change. The idea that you can grow up with a best friend and the relationship change is a big misnomer imo. Especially considering the group met when they were 11. That is right before those kind of hormones and feelings really start to kick in.

If Harry and Hermione grew up together like in the original draft, I would agree. That isn't what happened.

Truth is tho just because the three care about each other and Hermione gets Harry it doesn't mean they'd work out in a relationship. None of them should have been hooked up together. It's a bit too incestuous for my liking and it's rarely how real life relationships go. Heck, look at the actors themselves. They see each other as siblings cause they've been together for so long. Emma had trouble kissing both Dan and Rupert. I mean when you know someone from the time they were 9 & 10 you don't really see them romantically.

I was never a fan of "everyone" hooking up in the end. That isn't very realistic, war survivors or not.

In terms of a relationship, I think Harry and Hermione's temperaments work incredibly well together. They both get along wonderfully and are capable of "checking" each other when necessary.

 

[Liam_H]

A significant Harry and Hermione moment in OOTP I remember was when Hermione got him to come out of the Grimmauld Place attic after he shut himself in there.

 

[SV Fan]

As somebody who isn't a big HP fan and only seen each movie once, i think Harry should have got it on with that ditzy blond chick.

 

[Hush]

J.K. Rowling says in interview that she regrets pairing Ron and Hermione...should've been Harry and Hermione

Sometimes I think Rowling just says things to stay in the spotlight. First Dumbledore was gay, now this. Either write another Potter book or don't, but don't go contradicting the canon just for the hell of it. Doing so is a disservice to the fans.

You are so right in this regard, she has made practically a Billion Dollars from these books, why still milk it? She needs to release a Harry Potter Universe Encyclopedia so things like this aren't just left up for debate and such.

Nor I. In fact, Hermione and Harry's friendship and almost sibling-like relationship is one of the best parts of Rowling's writing. I feel like people who project romantic overtones onto it are simply incapable of understanding how two members of the opposite sex could develop a close, non-sexual friendship.

Yeah I agree with this too, we must be on the same wavelength, by OOTP these two are clearly the absolute definition of BFF and her and Ron have gotten to the point where they are 15 and starting to notice each other more while Harry is just enamored with the idea of having friends at 15 something he never saw as possible early in his life.

I do think though that Emma and Daniels chemistry added unneccesary fuel to the Harry and Hermione shippers.

 

[Wine-N-Cheese]

Truth is tho just because the three care about each other and Hermione gets Harry it doesn't mean they'd work out in a relationship. None of them should have been hooked up together. It's a bit too incestuous for my liking and it's rarely how real life relationships go.

In my experience, teenagers often hook up with people from their own group, but I do share your distaste in the trio having romantic relationships with one another. Still, Hermione and Ron's physical attraaction had been hinted at since GoF, so it didn't bother me when they finally got together.

The one relationship I couldn't stand, though, was Harry and Ginny, but I also can't stand Ginny, either, so I am rather biased on that one. She's just such a blatant Mary Sue.

 

[DeGenerate10]

With Amazon Prime you get to borrow one book free for a month. Unfortunately you have to wait until the 1st get a new one. Anyway I've read the first three Harry Potter books this way. I feel like so far they're similar.

I now want to buy them all because I feel like I'll want to re-read them in a year or so from now. It's easy to get attached to these characters. I look forward to the next four.

 

[Marvolo]

They need to drop the kindle price on the last two books. $10 is a bit much for books that have been out this long.