The Horror Thread - Part 3

[Asr]

So anyone looking forward to Oculus opening this Friday, 4/11? Already has good reviews on RT, with 100% and 10 reviews.

 

[KevanG]

I've just watched Friday The 13th: A XXX Parody, and I've had an epiphany. I realized two things.

One, the XXX Parody Friday The 13th is actually better than the 2009 remake.

And two, there is a certain parallel between the history of adult films, and the history of horror films.

Back in the 1970's and very early 1980's, adult films had a certain "artistic quality". They had comprehensive, often well written, stories. They had decent budgets, wardrobes, make up, locations, sets, etc. Then in the mid 1980's through to the early 1990's, they had a very definite downward slide. The budgets became smaller, the stories were of lesser and lesser quality, until they pretty much became the joke of the entertainment industry. Then around the mid 1990's through to the early 2000's, we started getting tons of, what the adult industry refers to as "wall to wall" videos. No stories at all, just lots of hot men and women having sex.

Now look at horror films. In the late 1970's and early 1980's, we got really good, suspenseful horror movies like Halloween, Last House On The Left, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday The 13th, Poltergeist, A Nightmare On Elm Street, just to name a few. Then from the mid 1980's through to the early or mid 1990's, horror took a severe downward slide (Friday The 13th Part 5, Halloween 5, A Nightmare On Elm Street Part 4, Poltergeist 3, etc). Then in the late 1990's through to the early 2000's we got the Torture Porn movies (Saw, Hostel, and all of their many, lesser known, imitators).

Now, in the adult film industry, things are beginning to turn around. Adult films have been coming out once again with comprehensive story lines, high production values, and sets and budgets that are near the equal of any mainstream Hollywood movie. The many Comic Book Movie parodies, the two Pirate movies from a few years back, etc. So I'm wondering, is the horror industry about to make a comeback too? Certainly not with the slew of halfa$$ed remakes we've gotten lately. But maybe, someone will say "I'm bored of just brutally killing off a bunch of young, pretty people that nobody cares about. I want to make a movie that's genuinely scary!"

We can only hope.

You've certainly put a lot of thought into the similarities between porn and horror. I agree for the most part, on the horror anyway.

 

[Teelie]

So anyone looking forward to Oculus opening this Friday, 4/11? Already has good reviews on RT, with 100% and 10 reviews.

I plan to see it although it might not be that weekend.

 

[Thundarr]

You've certainly put a lot of thought into the similarities between porn and horror. I agree for the most part, on the horror anyway.

Well I watch a lot of both, lol. But my observations hold true. Look at the Halloween franchise for example.

1978: John Carpenter's Halloween = One of the scariest movies ever made. The body count is rather small and virtually bloodless, but it is very effective.

1989: Halloween 5 = One of the worst movies in the Halloween franchise with a weak plot, virtually no scares, but a high and bloody body count.

2007: Rob Zombie's Halloween = Not only was it one of the worst horror movies ever made, but one of the worst movies period. Everything creepy and mysterious about Michael Myers was thrown out in favour of a bunch of redneck, white trash, stereotypical serial killer BS. Any suspense was replaced with blood and gore, with a higher body count than many of the sequels from the original film. It's like an instructional video on how NOT to make a horror film.

Now look at a similar franchise from the adult film industry.

1980: Taboo = A story about a woman being attracted to, and eventually seducing, her own son. While the sex is rather mild by today's standards, the incestuous story line is what makes this film live up to its title.

1989: Taboo 7 = A story about a place called Whitestone, where everyone in having sex with everyone else. No incestuous side plots or anything. So in other words, no different than any other adult film at the time. So this movie is "Taboo" in name only, as there's really nothing taboo about the plot at all.

2007: Taboo 23 = Penny Flame is looking for her sister who has gone missing. Her search leads her to depraved sex clubs where men and women indulge in every deviant sexual desire. All in all, not much different from Part 7, except the sex is probably more extreme. On the whole it's mostly a wall to wall video being held loosely together by the thread of a very weak storyline.

 

[Thundarr]

You've certainly put a lot of thought into the similarities between porn and horror. I agree for the most part, on the horror anyway.

Well I watch a lot of both, lol. But my observations hold true. Look at the Halloween franchise for example.

1978: John Carpenter's Halloween = One of the scariest movies ever made. The body count is rather small and virtually bloodless, but it is very effective.

1989: Halloween 5 = One of the worst movies in the Halloween franchise with a weak plot, virtually no scares, but a high and bloody body count.

2007: Rob Zombie's Halloween = Not only was it one of the worst horror movies ever made, but one of the worst movies period. Everything creepy and mysterious about Michael Myers was thrown out in favour of a bunch of redneck, white trash, stereotypical serial killer BS. Any suspense was replaced with blood and gore, with a higher body count than many of the sequels from the original film. It's like an instructional video on how NOT to make a horror film.

Now look at a similar franchise from the adult film industry.

1980: Taboo = A story about a woman being attracted to, and eventually seducing, her own son. While the sex is rather mild by today's standards, the incestuous story line is what makes this film live up to its title.

1989: Taboo 7 = A story about a place called Whitestone, where everyone in having sex with everyone else. No incestuous side plots or anything. So in other words, no different than any other adult film at the time. So this movie is "Taboo" in name only, as there's really nothing taboo about the plot at all.

2007: Taboo 23 = Penny Flame is looking for her sister who has gone missing. Her search leads her to depraved sex clubs where men and women indulge in every deviant sexual desire. All in all, not much different from Part 7, except the sex is probably more extreme. On the whole it's mostly a wall to wall video being held loosely together by the thread of a very weak storyline.

 

[Ant-manic]

rented 'Beneath' over the weekend; killer fish movie. just as a heads up, i wouldn't rate it very highly. i guess it did have sort of so-bad-it's-at-least-funny vibe to it. but you can tell that it wasn't what they were going for. just a bad cheap movie; all around. i watched the 'making of' portion of the bonus features; to see if there was something i could like about it. they put some effort into the monster fish design. but that just makes the final results sad. Creepshow 2 told the same story; only better and in half the time (w/ a floating trash bag, mind you). so i've changed my mind. you should totally watch 'Beneath.' i don't want to be the only person who suffered through it.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-l4NWj52D5...s1600/Larry-Fessenden-DVD-Artwork-Beneath.jpg

p.s. features some of the most unlikable horror movie characters; in recent memory.

 

[Teelie]

I'm watching this right now actually and they have the obligatory "no cell reception" scene and all the trimmings of "stupid teenagers doing & saying stupid things" to make sure we know the kind of movie we should be expecting. Subtlety is a brick through your window here. And the brick is a concrete block. Shot with a mortar.

And this is at literally the 12~ minute mark of the movie.

Edit: Going to "live blog" this movie. It is so epically bad it needs the MST3K treatment (roughly 20 minutes in).

Spoiler

So to start it out, there's six of them, four guys (two are brothers), two girls. One of them, the "ethnic" looking guy who's meant to be American Indian I guess? Knows something about the lake. He encounters an old man who warns him not to let anyone go on the lake or swim in it. He lies outright and says no one will. Afterall, telling the truth means there won't be a movie of stupid teenagers in a stupid horror movie.

They are only meant to cross the lake in a canoe to get to a party... why they couldn't drive their vehicle over there I either missed or was not explained.

There's also a necklace that provides some kind of immunity from fish-monster here.

At the 22 mark already with the poorly Jaws-inspired swim-under (a canoe) to the obligatory mention of a lesbian experiment at summer camp when the two women were 15 and at summer camp.

They are now trying to outswim the fish, ala Jaws 2.

They are using a camera to partially invoke a "found footage" vibe to it as well.

And they lose an oar, and perhaps a hand.

Nope, only nearly. And the girl reaching was bit but it was very slow, so slow in fact there was no blood initially then suddenly (after the actress squeezes the hidden blood pack) she's gushing blood because it's "the brachial artery."

There goes the oar, and the girl has bled out in almost no time at all from a bite that shouldn't have even bitten deep enough to cut the artery. She died in under a minute. Seriously, the "wound" wasn't even visible initially. I've had papercuts that were more apparent.

It's a large lake yet somehow they are incapable of reasonably getting back ashore. Like it's taken hours to do what took them maybe 10-15 minutes to move out to.

Much like Jaws, the shark is animatronic and it shows to a degree but it's noticably better than if it were CGI.

One of the teens is naturally dumb enough to take their only form of propulsion and stick it in the fish, which is now swimming around like Jaws and lurking just under the surface, with the dorsal fin sticking up.

Camera guy films it all, including the near-deaths and actual death.

Call out to Shark Night 3-D made.

The one teen who knows what is going on is being confronted, camera guy records the "confession" and then suggests using the now dead teenage girl to be fed to the fish like bait while they use their hands to paddle away (not occuring to anyone there might be more than one giant man-eating fish).

Despite being Catholic, apparently the girl would want to be fed to a giant, man-eating fish to save her friends. Of course the group seems to agree with this and over she goes.

More Jaws as the girl "dips" as the fish takes tentative bites of her before dragging her under. Camera guy defiantely continues to film instead of you know, helping paddle to safety.

Although the giant fish probably should have been sated eating an entire adult-sized human being, it's got an insatiable appetite.

Now, much like Jaws, they realize they are sinking and need to bail the water out of the boat canoe.

Jaws homage again. This time the fish take the cooler lid being make-shifted as a paddle from the guy using it.

More hand-paddling, again no one thinking of the possiblity there's more than one.

And the kid who knew the lake's story is being voted off the island boat.

Now they have to make the case to who will be staying on the boat. Nerdy stereotype kid with the camera makes a long rant of how he's more important than everyone else.

The remaining token girlfriend is going to be famous, and people need celebrities.

And the kid who knows what's actually going on is indeed the loser. He's been voted off the canoe.

He's an above Olympic-class swimmer, apparently managing to swim futher out than humanly possible.

Looks like he's faking us out. We saw him in the water, saw the fish go after him, then he goes under the water followed by the fish.

Can they be more obviously setting up his return?

They are all fighting over what they'll say if they make it back to shore, which seems to be impressively far out despite their constant rowing.

Have to break from paddle-fighting to shoot fireworks at the fish.

It looks like their plan to kill the fish with fireworks failed. And they're sinking, something that's obvious.

Now they are looking for another distraction and pointing at stereotype nerd boy with camera on wrist.

He makes the case that sending him to his death is murder, despite being the one who originally suggested it.

And now he's calling the girl a ****, daring the boyfriend to ask who she slept with on the boat... all four of them, so naturally the only other guy on the canoe besides the nerd and the girlfriend is sleeping with the brother.

And he's filmed their sexcapades because he "films everything."

They voted and threw nerd boy off the canoe to be eaten. His attempts to get back in are rebuffed with kicks to his hands or head.

Off they row as mad man nerd stereotype yells at them to row away... and calls out for the fish to come eat him, on camera naturally.

And it eats him on shaky-cam. With screams included, and then a shadowy scene of him going under and his arm severed.

Then we hear only the yelling of the survivors to keep paddling and how it's hard to... "amazingly" kid who knows what's going on survived and made it ashore, along with the remains of a paddle and the cooler lid. Convienently there's a boat with a motor right there.

After some more fighting, they get the idea to lighten the load by dumping stuff over. And find an axe. Attempts to use the cooler itself are naturally thwarted by the giant fish which promptly steals the cooler, then as if that wasn't enough, re-enacts the ramming from Jaws and biting chunks of the canoe out.

The girl grabs the axe and attacks the fish, doing some damage which is responded with how badass it was she did that.

Now she's looking to decide on killing someone... making the implicit remarks of how it's still so far out to shore, and will be dark soon.

Oops, nope, that's the kid with the knowledge and a motorboat to rescue them... in the slowest motorboat in history.

Naturally they are all cheering him and want to get into the motorboat, but he won't let them in since they all voted him off the island canoe. He'll tow them in though.

And more Jaws on the lake with throwing the rope to the sinking canoe to tug them in.

Throw number one naturally falls short and to the side, the second throw just barely makes it.

As they begin towing in, the fish rams the motorboat causing the guy to inexplicably get his neck wrapped in the rope and starting to choke. Now they have to cut the rope or he'll die.

And it appears he's dead now. So much for his plot armor. They show his purple tongue sticking out to reiterate that yes he's definitely dead now.

As they nearly get the motor boat pulled in the fish hits it again, tipping the boat and motor leaving them stranded.

The motor somehow works upside down in the water and the propeller cuts the rope as they try pulling it in... killing the motor.

The kid's corpse is floating inbetween, waiting for the fish to eat the kid... only for it to pass him over. Could it be full from the previous two teens and now just dicking with the three survivors?

One of them has lost his mind and is now dismantling the canoe they are in... well parts of it. To make paddles. Why did none of them think to do this before?

Uh oh, someone realized they might be paddling in circles, and now the brother is questioning his girlfriend and her cheating on him with the brother.

He seemed to have no doubt his girlfriend was faithful before. And now he wants to stop rowing until he knows whether they were cheating behind his back. And the fish is coming back for them. And his brother suddenly decides now is a good time to vote the girl off the boat and the brothers swim ashore.

Confession time, yup, they were screwing behind his back. Now they are voting one another off the boat... this isn't going to end well. Fighting eachother and probably going over the side.

Brief refrain while the brother explains why he slept with her. He got a scholarship and was her ticket out of there... vote again, they both decide she goes overboard and threaten her with the axe.

Just to add that little bit of vindictiveness, she makes a reference to thinking of the other brother while they were... doing their thing.

Over she goes.

The now ex-boyfriend tells her she's done and keeps tapping her fingers with the dull side of the axe. She goes under the water... is she dead? We didn't see the tell-tale red bubbling of a dead body yet.

The brothers aren't done fighting yet either. Taunting your brother and only companion isn't smart. Nor is trying to scalp him. He missed, now the brothers are fighting, one goes into the water, he's got a head wound, the other brother calls for him, swims out to save him... do they get eaten?

Soon we'll know, they're swimming to shore now, no sign of the fish yet. Or the girl.

Spoke too soon. The fish is coming. and takes the injured brother for a snack.

Down to one. Hope he has the axe cause his brother is busy punching the fish in a desperate bid to stay alive and failing...

And there's the girl, on the now cap-sized canoe. She sees the boy who knew what was going on's corpse and grabs for the necklace that may provide protection from the monster fish.

Now that he no longer has the magic necklace, his body is eaten by the fish.

Maybe it does have magic powers.

In the water the girl goes swimming to shore.

Near the sore, standing. Looks like the other brother lived, he's fighting with the girl now. He realizes the necklace saved her although he's crazy and trying to kill her now. While still standing in the lake to choke her to death.

Or drown her. He's definitely nuts.

Down she goes, drowned.

And suddenly it's night time and the old man finds them when he flashes the lights of his truck on. Killer crazy brother is seen. The old man asks where the boy with the magic necklace went. Crazy says he tried to save them.

Crazy has claw marks on his chest... and old man found the camera with the incriminating footage on it.

Turns out the brothers had connected family.

Old man doesn't give a ****. He's going to shoot the crazy brother. Or be eaten by the fish. He gave him a choice. Crazy doesn't want to go so he fires a few shots, one hits him in the leg.

Now he's backing up as the gun with more bullets than it's capacity keeps firing at him.

Fade to black as we hear crazy screaming while the fish attacks and pulls him into the water.

No one lives in this movie except the old man who was on dry land. The last scene is the necklace on the shore, apparently a tooth off the fish being covered by blood.

End of one really bland, generic Jaws ripoff in a lake. Surprisingly still better than some of the previous Jaws clones I've seen before but it still sucked.

 

[redhawk23]

So anyone looking forward to Oculus opening this Friday, 4/11? Already has good reviews on RT, with 100% and 10 reviews.

I've been looking forward to it for a while. Also The Quiet ones and Only Lovers Left Alive. April has been a strangely active month for horror the last few years. Next year was supposed to have Crimson Peak but that has thankfully been moved to October.

 

[Ant-manic]

I'm watching this right now actually and they have the obligatory "no cell reception" scene and all the trimmings of "stupid teenagers doing & saying stupid things" to make sure we know the kind of movie we should be expecting. Subtlety is a brick through your window here. And the brick is a concrete block. Shot with a mortar.

And this is at literally the 12~ minute mark of the movie.

Edit: Going to "live blog" this movie. It is so epically bad it needs the MST3K treatment (roughly 20 minutes in).

Spoiler

So to start it out, there's six of them, four guys (two are brothers), two girls. One of them, the "ethnic" looking guy who's meant to be American Indian I guess? Knows something about the lake. He encounters an old man who warns him not to let anyone go on the lake or swim in it. He lies outright and says no one will. Afterall, telling the truth means there won't be a movie of stupid teenagers in a stupid horror movie.

They are only meant to cross the lake in a canoe to get to a party... why they couldn't drive their vehicle over there I either missed or was not explained.

There's also a necklace that provides some kind of immunity from fish-monster here.

At the 22 mark already with the poorly Jaws-inspired swim-under (a canoe) to the obligatory mention of a lesbian experiment at summer camp when the two women were 15 and at summer camp.

They are now trying to outswim the fish, ala Jaws 2.

They are using a camera to partially invoke a "found footage" vibe to it as well.

And they lose an oar, and perhaps a hand.

Nope, only nearly. And the girl reaching was bit but it was very slow, so slow in fact there was no blood initially then suddenly (after the actress squeezes the hidden blood pack) she's gushing blood because it's "the brachial artery."

There goes the oar, and the girl has bled out in almost no time at all from a bite that shouldn't have even bitten deep enough to cut the artery. She died in under a minute. Seriously, the "wound" wasn't even visible initially. I've had papercuts that were more apparent.

It's a large lake yet somehow they are incapable of reasonably getting back ashore. Like it's taken hours to do what took them maybe 10-15 minutes to move out to.

Much like Jaws, the shark is animatronic and it shows to a degree but it's noticably better than if it were CGI.

One of the teens is naturally dumb enough to take their only form of propulsion and stick it in the fish, which is now swimming around like Jaws and lurking just under the surface, with the dorsal fin sticking up.

Camera guy films it all, including the near-deaths and actual death.

Call out to Shark Night 3-D made.

The one teen who knows what is going on is being confronted, camera guy records the "confession" and then suggests using the now dead teenage girl to be fed to the fish like bait while they use their hands to paddle away (not occuring to anyone there might be more than one giant man-eating fish).

Despite being Catholic, apparently the girl would want to be fed to a giant, man-eating fish to save her friends. Of course the group seems to agree with this and over she goes.

More Jaws as the girl "dips" as the fish takes tentative bites of her before dragging her under. Camera guy defiantely continues to film instead of you know, helping paddle to safety.

Although the giant fish probably should have been sated eating an entire adult-sized human being, it's got an insatiable appetite.

Now, much like Jaws, they realize they are sinking and need to bail the water out of the boat canoe.

Jaws homage again. This time the fish take the cooler lid being make-shifted as a paddle from the guy using it.

More hand-paddling, again no one thinking of the possiblity there's more than one.

And the kid who knew the lake's story is being voted off the island boat.

Now they have to make the case to who will be staying on the boat. Nerdy stereotype kid with the camera makes a long rant of how he's more important than everyone else.

The remaining token girlfriend is going to be famous, and people need celebrities.

And the kid who knows what's actually going on is indeed the loser. He's been voted off the canoe.

He's an above Olympic-class swimmer, apparently managing to swim futher out than humanly possible.

Looks like he's faking us out. We saw him in the water, saw the fish go after him, then he goes under the water followed by the fish.

Can they be more obviously setting up his return?

They are all fighting over what they'll say if they make it back to shore, which seems to be impressively far out despite their constant rowing.

Have to break from paddle-fighting to shoot fireworks at the fish.

It looks like their plan to kill the fish with fireworks failed. And they're sinking, something that's obvious.

Now they are looking for another distraction and pointing at stereotype nerd boy with camera on wrist.

He makes the case that sending him to his death is murder, despite being the one who originally suggested it.

And now he's calling the girl a ****, daring the boyfriend to ask who she slept with on the boat... all four of them, so naturally the only other guy on the canoe besides the nerd and the girlfriend is sleeping with the brother.

And he's filmed their sexcapades because he "films everything."

They voted and threw nerd boy off the canoe to be eaten. His attempts to get back in are rebuffed with kicks to his hands or head.

Off they row as mad man nerd stereotype yells at them to row away... and calls out for the fish to come eat him, on camera naturally.

And it eats him on shaky-cam. With screams included, and then a shadowy scene of him going under and his arm severed.

Then we hear only the yelling of the survivors to keep paddling and how it's hard to... "amazingly" kid who knows what's going on survived and made it ashore, along with the remains of a paddle and the cooler lid. Convienently there's a boat with a motor right there.

After some more fighting, they get the idea to lighten the load by dumping stuff over. And find an axe. Attempts to use the cooler itself are naturally thwarted by the giant fish which promptly steals the cooler, then as if that wasn't enough, re-enacts the ramming from Jaws and biting chunks of the canoe out.

The girl grabs the axe and attacks the fish, doing some damage which is responded with how badass it was she did that.

Now she's looking to decide on killing someone... making the implicit remarks of how it's still so far out to shore, and will be dark soon.

Oops, nope, that's the kid with the knowledge and a motorboat to rescue them... in the slowest motorboat in history.

Naturally they are all cheering him and want to get into the motorboat, but he won't let them in since they all voted him off the island canoe. He'll tow them in though.

And more Jaws on the lake with throwing the rope to the sinking canoe to tug them in.

Throw number one naturally falls short and to the side, the second throw just barely makes it.

As they begin towing in, the fish rams the motorboat causing the guy to inexplicably get his neck wrapped in the rope and starting to choke. Now they have to cut the rope or he'll die.

And it appears he's dead now. So much for his plot armor. They show his purple tongue sticking out to reiterate that yes he's definitely dead now.

As they nearly get the motor boat pulled in the fish hits it again, tipping the boat and motor leaving them stranded.

The motor somehow works upside down in the water and the propeller cuts the rope as they try pulling it in... killing the motor.

The kid's corpse is floating inbetween, waiting for the fish to eat the kid... only for it to pass him over. Could it be full from the previous two teens and now just dicking with the three survivors?

One of them has lost his mind and is now dismantling the canoe they are in... well parts of it. To make paddles. Why did none of them think to do this before?

Uh oh, someone realized they might be paddling in circles, and now the brother is questioning his girlfriend and her cheating on him with the brother.

He seemed to have no doubt his girlfriend was faithful before. And now he wants to stop rowing until he knows whether they were cheating behind his back. And the fish is coming back for them. And his brother suddenly decides now is a good time to vote the girl off the boat and the brothers swim ashore.

Confession time, yup, they were screwing behind his back. Now they are voting one another off the boat... this isn't going to end well. Fighting eachother and probably going over the side.

Brief refrain while the brother explains why he slept with her. He got a scholarship and was her ticket out of there... vote again, they both decide she goes overboard and threaten her with the axe.

Just to add that little bit of vindictiveness, she makes a reference to thinking of the other brother while they were... doing their thing.

Over she goes.

The now ex-boyfriend tells her she's done and keeps tapping her fingers with the dull side of the axe. She goes under the water... is she dead? We didn't see the tell-tale red bubbling of a dead body yet.

The brothers aren't done fighting yet either. Taunting your brother and only companion isn't smart. Nor is trying to scalp him. He missed, now the brothers are fighting, one goes into the water, he's got a head wound, the other brother calls for him, swims out to save him... do they get eaten?

Soon we'll know, they're swimming to shore now, no sign of the fish yet. Or the girl.

Spoke too soon. The fish is coming. and takes the injured brother for a snack.

Down to one. Hope he has the axe cause his brother is busy punching the fish in a desperate bid to stay alive and failing...

And there's the girl, on the now cap-sized canoe. She sees the boy who knew what was going on's corpse and grabs for the necklace that may provide protection from the monster fish.

Now that he no longer has the magic necklace, his body is eaten by the fish.

Maybe it does have magic powers.

In the water the girl goes swimming to shore.

Near the sore, standing. Looks like the other brother lived, he's fighting with the girl now. He realizes the necklace saved her although he's crazy and trying to kill her now. While still standing in the lake to choke her to death.

Or drown her. He's definitely nuts.

Down she goes, drowned.

And suddenly it's night time and the old man finds them when he flashes the lights of his truck on. Killer crazy brother is seen. The old man asks where the boy with the magic necklace went. Crazy says he tried to save them.

Crazy has claw marks on his chest... and old man found the camera with the incriminating footage on it.

Turns out the brothers had connected family.

Old man doesn't give a ****. He's going to shoot the crazy brother. Or be eaten by the fish. He gave him a choice. Crazy doesn't want to go so he fires a few shots, one hits him in the leg.

Now he's backing up as the gun with more bullets than it's capacity keeps firing at him.

Fade to black as we hear crazy screaming while the fish attacks and pulls him into the water.

No one lives in this movie except the old man who was on dry land. The last scene is the necklace on the shore, apparently a tooth off the fish being covered by blood.

End of one really bland, generic Jaws ripoff in a lake. Surprisingly still better than some of the previous Jaws clones I've seen before but it still sucked.

LOL. thanks for the play-by-play!
one thing that you mentioned that bothered me about the movie..

Spoiler

i didn't even pick up on the weird kid maybe being native american. i couldn't quite figure out his deal. but it seemed to me like he was setting up those people to die. he wasn't quite friends with any of them; clearly disliked the two brothers. and that girl rejected him/refused the necklace. he knew that it would protect her. so he was willfully endangering every one else. that's why i couldn't bring myself to feel bad for him being voted off of the boat. he was, technically, responsible for all of the deaths. ridiculous size of the lake aside, the canoe was sinking. their ability to paddle to shore was compromised. weird guy, wearing that necklace, could have volunteered to swim to shore; instead of letting everyone go the Survivor route. he chose not to. and his plan to tow them was ridiculously stupid.

 

[Teelie]

There were numerous ways out of or even to prevent this situation that none of them took but if they did then the movie wouldn't work. They had to be the dumbest teenagers on the planet to make the choices they did and to be stuck in that situation.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Has anyone ever seen the Slumber Party Massacre series? I've been tempted to give them a shot, but I was wondering, is it worth buying the Scream Factory release with new special features of just the first film, or the Roger Corman's Cult Classics 3-pack, which does include audio commentaries and documentaries. I think they run about the same price for both releases, which makes the triple feature pack seem like a better deal.

 

[Teelie]

I believe I might have some time in the distant past. If I did it was probably in the 80's. Looks like a good old-fashioned slasher series.

 

[Ant-manic]

There were numerous ways out of or even to prevent this situation that none of them took but if they did then the movie wouldn't work. They had to be the dumbest teenagers on the planet to make the choices they did and to be stuck in that situation.

to be fair, that fish had to be supernatural. it shrugged off impaling and a hatchet job.

 

[Teelie]

It also shrugged off it's eyes only being painted on its head.

 

[Ant-manic]

It also shrugged off it's eyes only being painted on its head.

those are just decoy eyes. it's a heat sensing fish. or or, and hear me out on this one...maybe it was a scuba diving serial killer wearing a plastic fish like a backpack. we never actually saw it eating anyone.

 

[Teelie]

That is as plausible a theory as any for that movie.

 

[redhawk23]

http://badassdigest.com/2014/04/08/collins-crypt-the-sad-saga-of-leatherface/

Here is a great article about Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3's laughably ridiculous battle with the MPAA.

 

[Teelie]

Has anyone ever seen the Slumber Party Massacre series? I've been tempted to give them a shot, but I was wondering, is it worth buying the Scream Factory release with new special features of just the first film, or the Roger Corman's Cult Classics 3-pack, which does include audio commentaries and documentaries. I think they run about the same price for both releases, which makes the triple feature pack seem like a better deal.

I watched the first three of these and they are indeed poor Halloween slasher film rip offs. They are only loosely connected mainly by the oddly specific choice of weapon (an electric auger) and each goes on a totally different direction for who/what the killer is. The secpnd one is some kind of ghostly manifestation I think.

Apparently there's also a Cheerleader Massacre series that spun off it as well although they came out well over a decade later and I haven't watched them yet.

 

[Drz]

I saw Dead Snow 2, it was freaking hilarious!

 

[Ant-manic]

I saw Dead Snow 2, it was freaking hilarious!

isn't there a sequel out, already?

 

[SWAT]

isn't there a sequel out, already?

The first one came out in 2009... Second one this year.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Has anyone ever seen the Slumber Party Massacre series? I've been tempted to give them a shot, but I was wondering, is it worth buying the Scream Factory release with new special features of just the first film, or the Roger Corman's Cult Classics 3-pack, which does include audio commentaries and documentaries. I think they run about the same price for both releases, which makes the triple feature pack seem like a better deal.

The first one is awesome, and the only worthwhile one of the series.

 

[Thundarr]

Blinky Productions has just posted their latest video from their Nightmare On Elm Street prequels. This one is called Krueger: The Slasher From Elm Street.

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Personally, I think WB/New Line needs to hire these guys and give them the budget and resources to make a feature length version. The guy who plays Freddy in these short films is fantastic, and Chris has a definite sense of who and what Freddy is supposed to be like.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

So Oculus...I'd give it a 6/10. It felt extremely meh to me. It had some good build up but I saw the ending coming a mile away. It has its moments, but I'd save it for a rental. I did like it more than The Conjuring though.

 

[Drz]

isn't there a sequel out, already?

Yeah thats what i saw.

They will release Dead Snow 2 in America around October, i saw the European version, they speak 60% english in it, and they actually shot the movie both in original (40% norwegian dialogue) and completely english spoken simultanously.

Dead Snow 2 is much more original and more fun than Dead Snow 1, which i felt was a homage to Evil Dead.