The Horror Thread - Part 3

[Ant-manic]

That even happens in some older horror movies, including some of the great, all time classics.

In the original Friday The 13th, when Alice is attacked by Mrs Voorhees and she grabs the iron poker from the fireplace to defend herself. She hits Mrs Voorhees with it, then instead of finishing her off, throws the poker away and runs off. She runs to the supply shed and grabs one of the rifles for the rifle range, but can't find the bullets. When Mrs Voorhees catches up to her, Alice throws the gun at her! Then during their ensuing fight, she finally has the sense to pick the rifle up and use it as a club, knocking Mrs Voorhees down again. Again, does she finish her off? No. She throws the rifle away and runs and hides. Then Mrs Voorhees finds Alice hiding in the pantry. Alice cracks her in the skull with a cast iron skillet. Does she do anything to make sure Mrs Voorhees can't get back up? Tie her up to wait for the authorities? Keep hitting her with the skillet? Gouge her eyes out with a BBQ fork? Nope. She just heads down to the beach and assumes everything's fine. I mean, I understand that they wanted a prolonged chase scene. But did they really have to make Alice THAT stupid in order to get it?

well Ms. Vorhees is just as negligient for not using the rifle to kill Alice. the latter was nice enough to throw it to her.

 

[Ant-manic]

By that logic the 1880s are even scarier, no phones at all. Often barely organize law enforcement. No cures for strange diseases.

to a smaller degree, this is why my parents can't fully enjoy the 80s horror movies that i love. scary to them was Lon Chaney jr's transformation into the Wolfman. but yes, the 1880s could be an even scarier time period. it all comes down to isolation. how capable are the victims in defending themselves. it's harder to protect yourself when you can't just phone the police or use GPS to avoid crazed hillbilly mutants.

 

[Ant-manic]

Well for every high tech safety device there seems to be nearly as many high tech devices to get around them. A tech savvy killer like Ghostface might still be successful, but someone like Jason or Michael Myers would have a harder time. Of course, Jason's a bit easier writing wise. Just say that there's no cell reception out by Crystal Lake. It only becomes an issue if he tries to bring his killing spree into town.

the more tech savvy the killer, the more human and the less scary they are (to me). Myers might actually be immune to this since his style of attack already weighs in collateral damage. he's going to kill anyone he encounters. getting him on camera won't help. calling the police won't help. and Jason's an old school survivalist; purposely off the grid. when he was forced into the modern age (Jason takes Manhattan) he was basically just a wild animal running amok.

 

[bullets]

well Ms. Vorhees is just as negligient for not using the rifle to kill Alice. the latter was nice enough to throw it to her.

I try to overlook these things under the assumption characters aren't in their right frame of mind and unable to think clearly.

 

[Thundarr]

did the deer head fire bullets?

Maybe the deer head growled at them, or even spoke to them. That would freak me out enough to drop my chainsaw.

 

[Thundarr]

I try to overlook these things under the assumption characters aren't in their right frame of mind and unable to think clearly.

Obviously Mrs Voorhees wasn't in her right frame of mind. She was apes**t nuts!

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

I don't know if you guys have listened to some of the classic radio horror shows like Lights Out, Quiet Please, Inner Sanctum and Dark Fantasy...but some of the episodes are damn creepy. You can find many of them on archive.org or youtube. I listened to them some years ago, while I lay in bed at night...big mistaket::

1. The Thing on the Fourble Board (Quiet Please): A man finds something... "strange" when drilling for oil.

This one was disturbing. I heard that it was supposed to be scary, but I didn't expect something like that...

2. Sorry, Wrong Number (Suspense): A woman dials a number and is accidentally connected to a call between two men who are plotting a murder.

Pulse-pounding and suspenseful story. There's nothing supernatural in it, but still one of the scariest radio episodes I've heard. I think my heart stopped for a moment. There's a movie version of it too, but haven't checked it out yet.

3. The Demon Tree (Dark Fantasy): Four friends hear the story of a man strangled by a living tree in a forest. They decide to take a walk in the same forest...

Not the scariest story, but still pretty creepy.

4. The House in Cypress Canyon (Suspense): A real estate agent named Jerry is about to put up a sign advertising a new home in Cypress Canyon, but he is having doubts about doing so. A shoebox containing a manuscript was found by construction workers inside the unfinished house. The mysterious manuscript detailed a disturbing story about what would happen to the future occupants.

My heart was beating fast near the end of the episode. The same reaction I got from "Sorry, Wrong Number".

5. Ghost Hunt (Suspense): Radio personality Smiley Smith and paranormal investigator, Dr. Reed visits a haunted house known as "The Death Trap". Their experiences are recorded for playback on Smith's show.

Found "footage" (or recording) 40's style!

6. Death Robbery (Lights Out): Boris Karloff plays a scientist who brings his dead wife back to life again, but something is terribly wrong.

Creepy...classic radio shows were scarier than classic horror movies. Maybe it's because you have to use your imagination. I did get a lot of disturbing pictures in my mind when I heard this one.

7. Behind the Locked Door (Mysterious Traveller): Two archaeologists discover a century-old wagon train that had been sealed in a cave following a landslide. When their Native American guide is mysteriously and brutally attacked, the two, now lost in the darkness, conclude that the descendants of the wagon train are still living in the cave.

Would have been interesting to see it as a movie. Reminded me a bit of "The Descent", actually.

I would especially recommend "The Thing on the Fourble Board"...t:

 

[redhawk23]

Have you listened to the podcast/radio show Welcome to Night Vale? Its more comedy focused ultimately but it plays with a lot of horror and scific tropes in a fun and thoughtful way. I actually went to a live show of theirs last week.


Sidenote, Occulus is getting some pretty good reviews. I look forward to seeing it next month.

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/349261-sxsw-review-ambition-originality-scares-drive-oculus/

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

No, but I read about it now. Sounds interestingt:

Thank you for the tip.

 

[Thundarr]

Here are a couple of short, original horror films. They have some foul language, so younger viewers should be warned. But they're really well done, and would make an excellent feature length film.

iPsycho
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iPsycho II
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[Goshdarn Batman]

I don't know how to embed youtube videos (it worked before), but I like this one:

Bedfellows

 

[Thundarr]

I don't know how to embed youtube videos (it worked before), but I like this one:

Bedfellows

I just watched it. That was pretty darn creepy. Don't know who did it, but they did a pretty good job.

As for embedding You Tube videos, it's not much different than posting a link to a You Tube video. Just point and click on the You Tube icon at the top of the box you write your thread replies in. This brings up a [YT] symbol, with a /YT in square brackets next to it (I didn't want to put the /YT in another set of square brackets, in case the computer thought I was trying to embed a video). In between them, you type the series of letters and numbers that come after the = sign. In the case of Bedfellows, that would be 0z6xGU2_g9s. Then when the reply is posted, you end up with this:
[YT]0z6xGU2_g9s[/YT]

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Test:

[YT]P-SamlxVgnc[/YT]

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

I think it woiked! Thanks! t:

 

[Thundarr]

I think it woiked! Thanks! t:

No problem. I had that same problem myself when I first joined the site. Took me a while to figure it out too.

 

[Thundarr]

I've just watched Friday The 13th: A XXX Parody, and I've had an epiphany. I realized two things.

One, the XXX Parody Friday The 13th is actually better than the 2009 remake.

And two, there is a certain parallel between the history of adult films, and the history of horror films.

Back in the 1970's and very early 1980's, adult films had a certain "artistic quality". They had comprehensive, often well written, stories. They had decent budgets, wardrobes, make up, locations, sets, etc. Then in the mid 1980's through to the early 1990's, they had a very definite downward slide. The budgets became smaller, the stories were of lesser and lesser quality, until they pretty much became the joke of the entertainment industry. Then around the mid 1990's through to the early 2000's, we started getting tons of, what the adult industry refers to as "wall to wall" videos. No stories at all, just lots of hot men and women having sex.

Now look at horror films. In the late 1970's and early 1980's, we got really good, suspenseful horror movies like Halloween, Last House On The Left, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday The 13th, Poltergeist, A Nightmare On Elm Street, just to name a few. Then from the mid 1980's through to the early or mid 1990's, horror took a severe downward slide (Friday The 13th Part 5, Halloween 5, A Nightmare On Elm Street Part 4, Poltergeist 3, etc). Then in the late 1990's through to the early 2000's we got the Torture Porn movies (Saw, Hostel, and all of their many, lesser known, imitators).

Now, in the adult film industry, things are beginning to turn around. Adult films have been coming out once again with comprehensive story lines, high production values, and sets and budgets that are near the equal of any mainstream Hollywood movie. The many Comic Book Movie parodies, the two Pirate movies from a few years back, etc. So I'm wondering, is the horror industry about to make a comeback too? Certainly not with the slew of halfa$$ed remakes we've gotten lately. But maybe, someone will say "I'm bored of just brutally killing off a bunch of young, pretty people that nobody cares about. I want to make a movie that's genuinely scary!"

We can only hope.

 

[Lord]

The Conjuring wasn't a remake and was genuinelly scary to be honest. My guess is that you mean slasher movies, those are the ones that have taken a major nose-dive

 

[Thundarr]

The Conjuring wasn't a remake and was genuinely scary to be honest. My guess is that you mean slasher movies, those are the ones that have taken a major nose-dive

Mostly, although I found a lot of the "possession horror movies" to be somewhat lackluster. The Conjuring was pretty good. I think what I found scariest was that it was based on a true story.

I wonder if the DVD has some of the original film footage from the actual haunting as special features. I'd kinda like to see that TBH.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

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Don't know what Wes Craven had to do with it, though

 

[Lord]

I think you would be disapointed by the "true story", not much is really known about it and the couple is suspected of being con artists, they were also involved with the Amityville case.

I hear there are a lot of great Horror films out of the USA and english speaking countries, but when it comes to Hollywood itself, every year there's usually one or two decent to good horror films, and now and then there's one that is so popular that it hits the mainstream, as was the case with The Conjuring and possibly Paranormal Activity before it.

About the Conjuring again, it seems like they planing to turn this into yet another annual Horror franchise, with Annabelle being released next year, and a sequel to the main film following in 2015. While i want to see more like this, i'm afraid that this franchising of a good Horror film never works very well when it comes to the quality of the sequels.

If they eventually make more spin-offs, i would actually like to see another Amityville Horror reboot, i know we've gotten a lot of that story, but i'm not sure it's been made justice yet, and i don't remember them ever dealing witht he investigators of the house, only the father not wanting to get out of it.

 

[Ant-manic]

I hated the Conjuring; didn't find it scary, at all.

 

[Thundarr]

I hated the Conjuring; didn't find it scary, at all.

I found it had a creepy atmosphere, which I liked, but I found most of the "scares" too predictable to truly be scary. The one scene that really made me jump was when the spirit, or demon, or whatever jumped on the eldest daughter from on top of the wardrobe. That was good, I wasn't expecting that. But I can understand why someone else wouldn't like it.

But as I said before, I grew up in a haunted house, so movies like The Conjuring tend to freak me out a little more than movies like The Exorcist.

 

[Lord]

Sucks for some of you that you didn't enjoy The Conjuring much, while in later views i didn't find it as scary, i still think it was a great Horror film, and it really freaked me out when i saw it on the first time.

Another thing i liked is that it wasn't just a good horror film, it was also a great film overall. Had a good script, likeable characters and an amazing cinematography.

Thundarr, didn't know that, not sure if your situation was as violent as movies usually portray them, but would you consider any of these films realistic considering your oun personal experience?

 

[TheDreamMaster]

OMG, I thought it was an April Fools joke, until I realized the news was posted before April 1st. There is a new Phantasm film being made! http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3285913/breaking-phantasm-ravager-story-details-and-full-cast/

 

[Thundarr]

Sucks for some of you that you didn't enjoy The Conjuring much, while in later views i didn't find it as scary, i still think it was a great Horror film, and it really freaked me out when i saw it on the first time.

Another thing i liked is that it wasn't just a good horror film, it was also a great film overall. Had a good script, likeable characters and an amazing cinematography.

Thundarr, didn't know that, not sure if your situation was as violent as movies usually portray them, but would you consider any of these films realistic considering your oun personal experience?

I didn't think The Conjuring was bad. I just feel it wasn't as good as it could/should have been. But that might be because my standards are just too high, lol.

As for my experiences growing up in a haunted house? I believe I wrote a fairly detailed account earlier in this thread. Go back a couple of pages and you'll probably find them.