The Hunger Games - Part 1

[kickass]

I really hope this becomes just as successful as Twilight BUT with more of a appreciation from moviegoers based on its actually quality.

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

Starting from a better source should help out.

 

[ComicChick]

i've already preordered my tickets! stoked

 

[zanos]

I'm still not sure what commercials you've been watching.

In the ads:

-Before Prim is selected, Katniss is hugging her clearly distressed sister and assuring that she won't be picked because her name is only in there once.

-Prim is picked, screaming and crying follow, and Katniss is pushing through armed guards volunteering as tribute.

-Dialogue follows with Katniss explaining that only one person survives the "game" she just volunteered for. And she looks scared. In the most recent trailer, she's crying to Gale to make sure her family doesn't starve without her.

-She "gets a makeover", but certainly never looks happy about. It's fairly clear enough that she and Peeta are being paraded about for show.

-The other tributes are seen practicing - one is seen throwing a spear at a human-shaped target.

-An ominous countdown closes out the trailer, with people you've seen throughout the earlier parts of the trailer looking distressed as to what happens.

I think the biggest problem here is that you're perceiving them incorrectly. Trailers with screaming and crying kids, and talk about games where people die do not entice families with small children into thinking these are family films. And even though the games aren't shown (which, having read the books, I'm fine with waiting to see)...there's certainly an ominous tone to the trailers and TV spots so far showing that what's going to happen will not be friendly.

You're stressing yourself out about this far too much.

The official report of why the trailer was edited the way it was to begin with was so the studio could get the trailer played in as many theaters as possible, and seen by as many people as possible, namely families attending children's films. It's only logical to assume that the studio wants the film to be perceived as family friendly. The trailers, tv spots have all been marked as "G Rated" by the MPAA. The motive behind this seems abundantly clear.

Do my posts make me look like I'm stressed?

 

[RichardMoore]

The official report of why the trailer was edited the way it was to begin with was so the studio could get the trailer played in as many theaters as possible, and seen by as many people as possible, namely families attending children's films. It's only logical to assume that the studio wants the film to be perceived as family friendly. The trailers, tv spots have all been marked as "G Rated" by the MPAA. The motive behind this seems abundantly clear.

Do my posts make me look like I'm stressed?

What is your source?

Contrary to what you say, NONE of the trailers have been rated "G". They have all been approved for "appropriate audiences". It is not the studio's intention to market this as "family friendly". That is not why they haven't shown the scenes in the forest. This is a movie about innocent children fighting to the death for the amusement of power-hungry sadists and the studio is well aware of that.

 

[zanos]

What is your source?

Contrary to what you say, NONE of the trailers have been rated "G". They have all been approved for "appropriate audiences". It is not the studio's intention to market this as "family friendly". That is not why they haven't shown the scenes in the forest. This is a movie about innocent children fighting to the death for the amusement of power-hungry sadists and the studio is well aware of that.

You are correct, the studio is well aware of that, which is why they have tamed down the trailer so they can reach a wider audience. The trailer has been classified as G in canada, so the motive seems clear. I'm assuming it's the same in the US. Look at the most recent trailer that came out. There is absolutely nothing threatening or offensive at all in it. It is even more G rated than the feature trailer, which was already watered down.

 

[Hush]

Can we just end this silly debate? Who cares how it's advertised, at least it's being advertised unlike you know 2 months ago when there was narry a word said about it. How about how incredibly stoked we are that the movie is now less than a month away?

 

[dark_b]

Hus what should we talk about? the movie is not out yet.

 

[Hush]

How about what scene, spoiler if you like, your looking forward to the most? Also if you think the actors will be able to portray what you have built up in your mind or take it in their own unique direction?

 

[danoyse]

The official report of why the trailer was edited the way it was to begin with was so the studio could get the trailer played in as many theaters as possible, and seen by as many people as possible, namely families attending children's films. It's only logical to assume that the studio wants the film to be perceived as family friendly. The trailers, tv spots have all been marked as "G Rated" by the MPAA. The motive behind this seems abundantly clear.

Do my posts make me look like I'm stressed?

Yes, they do. And that you haven't paid much attention to the trailers or TV spots either.

So enlighten us: which children's films have been showing the trailer?

I saw The Muppets in theaters 3 times and never saw this trailer once. Haven't heard any reports of this trailer playing in front of Arthur Christmas, Alvin & the Chipmunks, or the 3D version of Beauty & the Beast, either.

"Appropriate audiences" doesn't mean G-rated.

 

[dark_b]

How about what scene, spoiler if you like, your looking forward to the most? Also if you think the actors will be able to portray what you have built up in your mind or take it in their own unique direction?

i didnt read the book so i dont know details from the book. i decided to watch this movie because Jennifer is a good actress and i like the HG concept.

so i can only talk about the marketing and how i think that we will not see a lot from the games.t:

 

[terry78]

So advance tickets are already selling out? I may have to go see what the fuss is about now.

 

[zanos]

Yes, they do. And that you haven't paid much attention to the trailers or TV spots either.

So enlighten us: which children's films have been showing the trailer?

I saw The Muppets in theaters 3 times and never saw this trailer once. Haven't heard any reports of this trailer playing in front of Arthur Christmas, Alvin & the Chipmunks, or the 3D version of Beauty & the Beast, either.

"Appropriate audiences" doesn't mean G-rated.

How would I be able to answer this? Am I supposed to conduct some extensive gallup poll just to prove a simple point? The conclusion I've come to is based simply on logic and a little of what I've read. I dare anyone tell me they couldn't show the following trailer to a 5 year old. The scariest thing in that entire trailer was Effie Trinkett. There is no other theory that counters what I've said, at least not a seemingly rational one anyway.

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Also , please give examples of how I'm stressed over this issue? I am merely questioning the rationale behind the marketing campaign and giving my own theories on it. If anything you seem stressed over the fact that I don't simply accept everything lock, stock and barrel.

 

[zanos]

http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx

 

[danoyse]

How would I be able to answer this? Am I supposed to conduct some extensive gallup poll just to prove a simple point? The conclusion I've come to is based simply on logic and a little of what I've read. I dare anyone tell me they couldn't show the following trailer to a 5 year old. The scariest thing in that entire trailer was Effie Trinkett. There is no other theory that counters what I've said, at least not a seemingly rational one anyway.

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I can assure that my 4-year-old nephew has shown no interest in this film, despite being in the room when the TV spots have aired. I can also confirm that his parents, aunt (me), and grandparents who have read all 3 books know damn well that this movie is not for him.

And since this movie is based on a series of best-selling books, I would imagine that we are not the only family that is well aware of this.

Also , please give examples of how I'm stressed over this issue? I am merely questioning the rationale behind the marketing campaign and giving my own theories on it. If anything you seem stressed over the fact that I don't simply accept everything lock, stock and barrel.

Just read any of your posts over the last few pages of this thread where you have derailed this subject into the ground.

 

[kickass]

Zanos, keep in mind that just because the trailers may be rated G in Canada doesn't disqualify the intention and motives in the story or film. The film is rated PG-13 in the U.S. Which means it will probably be rated PG in Canada. Without anything from the film being compromised. Canada's rating system is far more liberal than that of the States.

In the grand scheme of things, what does it matter if the marketing is aiming for a broader audience? Isn't that a good thing? The movie itself isn't rated G. There's action, violence, death, suspense, and sadness. It's almost like people demand to see the games only to confirm that these things are actually in the movie. They are. The Movie Companion book has tons of spoilers in it. I think ppl need to relax.

I'm so hyped for everything we haven't seen yet.

 

[ComicChick]

How about what scene, spoiler if you like, your looking forward to the most? Also if you think the actors will be able to portray what you have built up in your mind or take it in their own unique direction?

i'm looking forward to the Flickerman interviews. I know this is counting too far in advance but i hope there are outtakes/extra scenes of Flickerman interviewing other tributes. i'd love to see Tucci flesh out the character more.

I'm also very much looking forward to the tribute parade and seeing the dress that makes Katniss "the girl who was on fire"

 

[zanos]

I can assure that my 4-year-old nephew has shown no interest in this film, despite being in the room when the TV spots have aired. I can also confirm that his parents, aunt (me), and grandparents who have read all 3 books know damn well that this movie is not for him.

And since this movie is based on a series of best-selling books, I would imagine that we are not the only family that is well aware of this.

I never claimed anyone that young would be interested in seeing the film, just that those his age can watch the trailer, thus proving it's edited together specifically for general audiences.

Just read any of your posts over the last few pages of this thread where you have derailed this subject into the ground.

If you say so.

Zanos, keep in mind that just because the trailers may be rated G in Canada doesn't disqualify the intention and motives in the story or film. The film is rated PG-13 in the U.S. Which means it will probably be rated PG in Canada. Without anything from the film being compromised. Canada's rating system is far more liberal than that of the States.

In the grand scheme of things, what does it matter if the marketing is aiming for a broader audience? Isn't that a good thing? The movie itself isn't rated G. There's action, violence, death, suspense, and sadness. It's almost like people demand to see the games only to confirm that these things are actually in the movie. They are. The Movie Companion book has tons of spoilers in it. I think ppl need to relax.

I'm so hyped for everything we haven't seen yet.

I don't see that it doesn't matter as far as discussion material goes. I am merely pointing out that the marketing has been an epic failure up to this point. You are completely taking for granted that you've read the books and know everything there is to know about the story so your anticipation is based purely on that. The trailer itself has none of the action, violence, death, suspense and sadness you speak of, that is only in your imagination and you're projecting that onto an otherwise dull trailer.

What does the average person, who knows nothing about the books and story, get out of the current batch of trailers? They do not have your imagination to rely upon. All they see is a girl getting a makeover and being in some game which they know nothing about really. I've read the books and I'm a big fan of them, but I'm completely indifferent to the release of the film despite the fact that I already have foreknowledge that there has got to be more to the Hunger Games movie than what I've seen. You say that it's almost like people demand to see the games in order to confirm that they actually exist in the film, and in a way, you're absolutely correct. The title of the film is called the Hunger Games and the premise is based entirely on them. Why shouldn't general audiences get to see them unless you're hiding something? A good trailer should meet the expectation of what you're selling. If all you do is tease over and over you're nothing but a snake oil salesman.

 

[Hush]

If te marketing has been an epic failure to this point how come this movies presales are the highest in Fandangos history? The marketing seems to be spot on, you just seem like an angry fan who wants to see more of the movie in the trailers when they obviously don't want to show that much because that ruins the cinematic experience. I'm glad we aren't seeing any of the games, it's more fun this way. I actually have something to look forward to unlike every other movie where it's spoiled in all the tv spots and trailers.

 

[zanos]

If te marketing has been an epic failure to this point how come this movies presales are the highest in Fandangos history? The marketing seems to be spot on, you just seem like an angry fan who wants to see more of the movie in the trailers when they obviously don't want to show that much because that ruins the cinematic experience. I'm glad we aren't seeing any of the games, it's more fun this way. I actually have something to look forward to unlike every other movie where it's spoiled in all the tv spots and trailers.

Like I said earlier, these films have a huge built in fanbase. They are the ones who are probably buying up a majority of the advance tickets. It's not uncommon.

 

[dark_b]

If te marketing has been an epic failure to this point how come this movies presales are the highest in Fandangos history? The marketing seems to be spot on, you just seem like an angry fan who wants to see more of the movie in the trailers when they obviously don't want to show that much because that ruins the cinematic experience. I'm glad we aren't seeing any of the games, it's more fun this way. I actually have something to look forward to unlike every other movie where it's spoiled in all the tv spots and trailers.

i refuse to belive that you think that the Fandangos presales are from the general public. no way. am i in denial?

 

[kickass]

i refuse to belive that you think that the Fandangos presales are from the general public. no way. am i in denial?

Not everyone who reads the book has been a loyal devoted fan from the beginning. A lot of people have been influenced by the movie to start reading the books. And a lot of people - the general public that you speak off - started reading the books a few months ago.

With the sales this high, are we to assume all the people who bought the presale tickets are just the die hard fans? And if so, wouldn't that mean the book series has sold far more copies than the Twilight books? Because I'm pretty sure they haven't.

The difference with these presales is the general public are growing interested and jumping onboard the film and helping trigger a wider audience reach. The same cant be said about Twilight, for example. We all know how successful those films have become, but there is a very clear line between fans of the books and general audiences. The fans love these movies. The general audiences hate them.

So in conclusion, what I'm saying is I don't think THG has a fan base as big as Twilight (right now anyways) so a lot of those presales and ticket buyers are general audiences alike.

 

[zanos]

Not everyone who reads the book has been a loyal devoted fan from the beginning. A lot of people have been influenced by the movie to start reading the books. And a lot of people - the general public that you speak off - started reading the books a few months ago.

With the sales this high, are we to assume all the people who bought the presale tickets are just the die hard fans? And if so, wouldn't that mean the book series has sold far more copies than the Twilight books? Because I'm pretty sure they haven't.

The difference with these presales is the general public are growing interested and jumping onboard the film and helping trigger a wider audience reach. The same cant be said about Twilight, for example. We all know how successful those films have become, but there is a very clear line between fans of the books and general audiences. The fans love these movies. The general audiences hate them.

So in conclusion, what I'm saying is I don't think THG has a fan base as big as Twilight (right now anyways) so a lot of those presales and ticket buyers are general audiences alike.

No, I don't think so. If that's the case, why don't other films generate the same interest when it comes to pre sales tickets? What precisely sets Hunger Games apart from those other films that's forcing the general public to buy up every ticket? I am not aware of any kind of compulsion.

 

[dark_b]

the general public can not be that interested based on the marekting. if someone got interested in the books because of the trailers then it still means tha the big presales are because of the books.

 

[Hush]

Well we wouldn't have the movie without the books in the first pace so yes a lot of the ticket buyers will be fans of the books but quite honestly if Fandango is saying that this is the biggest pre-sale in it's 12 years it's not JUST the fans. Maybe the Marketing has attributed to more GA buying advanced tickets because its not being advertised as a huge actionfest or a contrived love story for teens but rather marketed as just a movie that has those elements. This isn't a theory that can just be thrown out the window. The General Public may see this movie as the beginning of the Summer Movie Season even though it's only a late March release.