The Hunger Games - Part 1

[Hush]

so you admit that the promotion is not good enough ?

How on Gods Green Earth did you get that from what they posted?

 

[flash13]

I did a speech on The Hunger Games in speech class today and when I asked how many people had read them more than half the class raised there hands and they ranged from an old woman to guys in their 20's. So yeah, The Hunger Games has a more diverse audience than Twilight.

 

[Speedball]

I really hate how this is being compared to Twilight. Twilight is a misogynistic tale about a young girl that doesn't really know what she wants and is confused as all get out.
The Hunger Games is a tale of survival in multiple forms. Katniss has true tragedy in her life, but is still optimistic and fights for her life. Bella really has no tragedy in her life, and eventually gives up and tries to kill herself because this dude says he doesn't like her, even though she has someone there for her. The only similarity I see is that they're both classified as Young Adult novels.

I'm reading the first book right now for the first time, and it's so engaging. The last time I sat down and read a book like this was in 2007 with the first three A Song of Ice and Fire books. I got it on friday, and didn't read it much on saturday, but read it while on the bike at the gym yesterday and today, and I'm now sitting and reading it. I'm half way done with it.

Anyway, this world is so fascinating! I'm currently living in what would be District 12, so I can't help but root for Katniss and Peeta even more.

I love how Panem is like a futuristic Rome, but also like Knossos during the time of King Minos and the Labyrinth. It helps that when I read the books, I imagine it with the actors voice from the films.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Agreed but the fact there is a teenage girl and two male love interests it's always going to be compared to Twilight. At least to the mainstream. Maybe after people see the movie it'll never be compared to that sad excuse of a love story.

 

[ComicChick]

Anyway, this world is so fascinating! I'm currently living in what would be District 12, so I can't help but root for Katniss and Peeta even more.

I love how Panem is like a futuristic Rome, but also like Knossos during the time of King Minos and the Labyrinth. It helps that when I read the books, I imagine it with the actors voice from the films.

to my fellow District 12 citizen

 

[ComicChick]

here's my overly optimistic opinion, the movie has:

Jennifer Lawrence
Woody Harrelson
Donald Sutherland
Elizabeth Banks
Stanley Tucci
et all

would these great actors really sign on to a movie that would be utterly terrible? i'm definitely hoping not
if i didn't know anything about the movies/books etc but the trailer. i'd be likely to see this movie based on the cast alone.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Ok, fine. Now, tell me why the general public is so supposedly interested in this one film over any other in fandango history. What does this film have over all those others?

If I new how to make a film that the general public always gravitated to, I would be a filmmaker.

Honestly, I find this argument a bit unusual, because I'm simply stating what we've been told. It almost seems like you don't believe the various news outlets reporting the mass pre-sales of The Hunger Games. Which I suppose you could if you chose to, but I don't see the point.

But aside from thinking that the reports are all out lies, there is no denying that the film has a large amount of pre-sales. This could be in combination from good WOM from the book, and the trailers have probably gotten people interested.

 

[zanos]

And now you're just speaking in hypotheticals. If there was no source material (three best-selling books), they might have a hard time selling it based on the trailers we've seen so far.

But that's not the case here, since there are three very popular, best-selling books, the property itself is able to use that to generate interest on top of the trailer. People are seeing the trailer, and while they maybe don't see as much as people who've read the books would like to see, at this point most know at least someone who've read the books and are recommending it based on that.

Point is, they don't have to rely solely on a trailer to sell this movie.

My position has always been that the content and footage within the trailers couldn't possibly sell this film to general audiences. You seem to agree, so where is the debate?

 

[Infinity9999x]

My position has always been that the content and footage within the trailers couldn't possibly sell this film to general audiences. You seem to agree, so where is the debate?

Ohh. I thought you were trying to argue that the film had pre-sold so much.

Honestly, I think it's combination. The trailers have been fine. And they do a good job of introducing the scenario. It's kids fighting to the death gladiator style.

I didn't need excessive amounts of bloody actions shots for the trailer for Gladiator to know there was going to be some. And really, the character relationships are what is most important in The Hunger Games anyways. Not the action.

Obviously the book fanbase is part of this. But the trailers had to have some effect, because pre-sales of this magnitude can't be from book fans alone. Unless almost every single book fine went out and bought some pre-sale tickets. Which I sincerely doubt. I think it's a combination of both.

 

[zanos]

Ohh. I thought you were trying to argue that the film had pre-sold so much.

Honestly, I think it's combination. The trailers have been fine. And they do a good job of introducing the scenario. It's kids fighting to the death gladiator style.

I didn't need excessive amounts of bloody actions shots for the trailer for Gladiator to know there was going to be some. And really, the character relationships are what is most important in The Hunger Games anyways. Not the action.

Obviously the book fanbase is part of this. But the trailers had to have some effect, because pre-sales of this magnitude can't be from book fans alone. Unless almost every single book fine went out and bought some pre-sale tickets. Which I sincerely doubt. I think it's a combination of both.

If the character relationships are so important to the trailer, then why not emphasize that? All we see is Katniss sharing an extremely brief conversation with Peeta and nothing more. I see no relationship there.

On another note, I just want to point out that in all the trailers there is never any mention that the tributes had to kill each other in order to win the games. The trailers are edited in such a way that they let you assume that in order to win the "games" you only have to be the first to the finish line while surviving deadly traps in the jungle. This is aptly demonstrated by way of showing the tributes running once they enter the arena. I think most audiences will assume that because they don't actually see anyone fighting each other, and the trailers have made a supreme effort to hide this. People who have read the books know everything already and assume too much. This is why I've always felt the trailers have done a horrible job selling this film to general audiences, and why I've felt they were trying to make this appear more family friendly.

 

[Liam_H]

This being sold in a more friendly-family way is quite evident. I mean if they mention that these kids need to kill each other in a survival game, will turn off quite a bit of people. Somewhat similar to Hit Girl in Kick-Ass but not really since these guys appear so much older. Even the comedy/parody like tone of Kick-Ass didn't make a difference.

 

[ironwez20]

Well the people who think it's family friendly are in for a little surprise

 

[dark_b]

I really hate how this is being compared to Twilight. Twilight is a misogynistic tale about a young girl that doesn't really know what she wants and is confused as all get out.
The Hunger Games is a tale of survival in multiple forms. Katniss has true tragedy in her life, but is still optimistic and fights for her life. Bella really has no tragedy in her life, and eventually gives up and tries to kill herself because this dude says he doesn't like her, even though she has someone there for her. The only similarity I see is that they're both classified as Young Adult novels.

I'm reading the first book right now for the first time, and it's so engaging. The last time I sat down and read a book like this was in 2007 with the first three A Song of Ice and Fire books. I got it on friday, and didn't read it much on saturday, but read it while on the bike at the gym yesterday and today, and I'm now sitting and reading it. I'm half way done with it.

Anyway, this world is so fascinating! I'm currently living in what would be District 12, so I can't help but root for Katniss and Peeta even more.

I love how Panem is like a futuristic Rome, but also like Knossos during the time of King Minos and the Labyrinth. It helps that when I read the books, I imagine it with the actors voice from the films.

you are talking about the twilight book and HG book. we are talking about the twilight movie and HG movie.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

While it may not be more popular than Twilight it has a way more diverse audience which I think will help it in the long run

Then that means anything less than 301mil domestically will make the movie a failure because that is what the biggest Twilight movie grossed. I mean honestly a more Diverse audience than Twilight didn't help all the over-hyped Marvel movies out gross Breaking Dawn: Part 1 last year. A diverse audience isn't enough people have to actually want to see a film in droves. And people might want to see HG in droves but a more diverse audience does not mean that it is going to out gross the Twilight films. I think it might have a shot at the first movie but the second and 3rd films are going to be super tough to beat.

 

[MadVillainy]

has there been any early reviews or impressions from screenings?

 

[kickass]

I highly doubt all the people who made the Marvel and Batman films extremely successful were just comic book fans. You bet your ass there were hundreds upon thousands of people who saw all those films and have never read a single comic book in their lives. The word of mouth concerning the HG books and the film are very strong. Why is this any different?

 

[ComicChick]

If the character relationships are so important to the trailer, then why not emphasize that? All we see is Katniss sharing an extremely brief conversation with Peeta and nothing more. I see no relationship there.

that's not something that was in the beginning of the book and it's a big reveal/spoiler midway through, right before the games start.

if they previewed it now, it wouldn't have the surprise that it's supposed to have and since they've already shown how close Gale and Katniss are, it'd make a love triangle appear and even more twilight comparisons would be made ad nauseum

 

[Drizzle]

Just finished the first book this morning. Please tell me they're filming these back to back.

 

[dark_b]

what do you mean back to back?

 

[Speedball]

you are talking about the twilight book and HG book. we are talking about the twilight movie and HG movie.

Ok... And? The film is an adaptation of the book. And I've never read and will never read Twilight. I've seen the movies, never paid for them, but I've seen them to see what all the fuss is about.
The book and film are related, so both deserve to be discussed. I don't see the point of your post.

 

[Speedball]

what do you mean back to back?

He means if they're being shot one after the other, similar to Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and 3, The Matrix 2 and 3, and Lord of the Rings.
I don't think the second film has begun filming yet, but I don't see why they don't film the next two or three on this schedule if the first film is successful.

 

[Drizzle]

what do you mean back to back?

Meaning I won't want to wait too long to see the next one. I can barely wait to leave work today so I can start the second book on the train home.

 

[dark_b]

it would be a to big risk to film all movies before the first one is realesed.

 

[Liam_H]

They're not filming until the summer I believe so they'll know well ahead of time if they have a hit on their hands.

 

[dark_b]

plus they will also know what workd and what didnt work . from pacing to characters to music.