The Huntsman: Winter's War

[terry78]

If they get someone that can do her up like Gunn and McKay did their respective obscure properties, maybe. Chastain is sadly older than what I suspect they want, but persona wise she nails the Danvers character.

 

[flickchick85]

Chastain would be great, no argument there.

 

[dude stannis]

I actually think Chastain would be an amazing Hawkwoman. Of the hard ass Thanagarian military commander kind.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Oh Lord, they'll both be litmus tests. WW comes first and is the biggest name, coming out of an as of yet unproven new DCEU, Captain Marvel is the first coming from the Marvel hit-machine, the closest thing to a "sure thing" (box office-wise) female heroes are gonna get. They both have a chance of sinking or swimming and changing the way Hollywood views female leads.

Captain Marvel just succeeding isn't going to be enough for Hollywood, they are just going to chalk that success up to the Marvel hit-machine as you call it. Even if one isn't interested in Wonder Woman if they hope to see more female leads they better hope that it succeeds. Both succeeding would be for the best and anyone who think that Captain Marvel is the only litmus test is fooling themselves and letting their stanning get in the way of common sense.

EDIT: If hit factory Marvel seems really leery of making a Superhero film starring a woman, that should tell you all that you need to know.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I don't really hold ill will towards Blunt and Chastain for doing The Huntsman either, I'm more so sad about it. Maybe these were the best female roles that they were offered in a would-be blockbuster? I don't know, I'm working under the assumption that this wasn't the best that they could do but this is Hollywood and it's incredibly cruel to women over 32. Maybe I should go easier on them and their agents.

I think this is a very possible scenario, too.

 

[flickchick85]

Captain Marvel just succeeding isn't going to be enough for Hollywood, they are just going to chalk that success up to the Marvel hit-machine as you call it. Even if one isn't interested in Wonder Woman if they hope to see more female leads they better hope that it succeeds. Both succeeding would be for the best and anyone who think that Captain Marvel is the only litmus test is fooling themselves and letting their stanning get in the way of common sense.

EDIT: If hit factory Marvel seems really leery of making a Superhero film starring a woman, that should tell you all that you need to know.

My point was, anyone thinking EITHER ONE is the only litmus test is fooling themselves.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

My point was, anyone thinking EITHER ONE is the only litmus test is fooling themselves.

Yes I said that both need to succeed or at least I want both to succeed because I think that is better than one of them succeeding.

You never said that only one needed to succeed. Even though I quoted you my post wasn't 100% directed to what you posted really, I probably shouldn't have even quoted your post if I'm being honest.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, I honestly don't think execs will even look twice if only one of them succeeds. It'll take the one-two-punch of two mega-successful female-lead superhero films (and I say "superhero" because that entire genre's owned by men, unlike the "YA" genre they pigeonhole Hunger Games into) to make any of the higher ups think there may be something to it.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah, I honestly don't think execs will even look twice if only one of them succeeds. It'll take the one-two-punch of two mega-successful female-lead superhero films (and I say "superhero" because that entire genre's owned by men, unlike the "YA" genre they pigeonhole Hunger Games into) to make any of the higher ups think there may be something to it.

Right. There is always an excuse and a downplaying of successful genre films starring women. Having two successful Superhero films starring women will help way more than one.

 

[Silvermoth]

This has one of the best cast lists I've ever seen. I can't wait to see Charlize, Emily and Jess on the screen together.

It would have been cool as well to see people of colour included in the cast too. Someone awesome like fan bingbing' character in 'the White haired witch of lunar kingdom' would have been cool to see too

 

[Loki882]

He's an actor, he's going to take big roles that he is offered them, I hold no ill will towards him for taking the role.

I don't really hold ill will towards Blunt and Chastain for doing The Huntsman either, I'm more so sad about it. Maybe these were the best female roles that they were offered in a would-be blockbuster? I don't know, I'm working under the assumption that this wasn't the best that they could do but this is Hollywood and it's incredibly cruel to women over 32. Maybe I should go easier on them and their agents.

Or they just wanted to do it. People here keep trying to subscribe some kind of negative reasoning for it, and I'm just not seeing it. Frankly, it says more about the FANS and THEIR issues/perspectives than the actors.

"Hey, want to have fun in a genre film, work with a bunch of other talented actors, wear cool outfits, oh and will pay you lots of money to do it?" Hell, I'd take that job in a heartbeat. It's not all that different from taking a role in a Marvel film, or DC one, or a Star Wars film, it really isn't.

 

[Loki882]

Right. There is always an excuse and a downplaying of successful genre films starring women. Having two successful Superhero films starring women will help way more than one.

To be honest, fans bear some responsibility for this as well. I've gotten into more than a few debates with other people on these very boards about this very topic. They try and excuse the lack of female-led properties by pointing out that "they haven't sold well in the past." Then, when you DO point out successful ones, they try and dismiss them by attributing their success to things OTHER than having a female lead. "That's different for such and such a reason" is what they usually say basically.

 

[green]

Trailer 2

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[Fallen Angel]

Nice trailer but liked the first one more.

Did I mention that I'm here for the ladies only?

 

[green]

Theron, Blunt and Chastain chewing scenery is an immediate sell to me…throw in Hemsworth as bonus eye candy and it's a must see.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Eh, okay trailer I guess, still think this is an unneeded sequel, but if the reviews are good I will probably watch it for the ladies.

 

[Airwings]

Trailer, very good. Me look forward to this. Airwings loves fantasy.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm so confused right now. They keep changing the story of this movie. Summary for the first trailer:

Long before the evil Queen Ravenna (Theron) was thought vanquished by Snow White’s blade, she watched silently as her sister, Freya (Blunt), suffered a heartbreaking betrayal and fled their kingdom. With Freya’s ability to freeze any enemy, the young ice queen has spent decades in a remote wintry palace raising a legion of deadly huntsmen—including Eric (Hemsworth) and warrior Sara (Chastain)—only to find that her prized two defied her one demand: Forever harden your hearts to love.

When Freya learns of her sister’s demise, she summons her remaining soldiers to bring the Magic Mirror home to the only sorceress left who can harness its power. But once she discovers Ravenna can be resurrected from its golden depths, the wicked sisters threaten this enchanted land with twice the darkest force it’s ever seen. Now, their amassing army shall prove undefeatable…unless the banished huntsmen who broke their queen’s cardinal rule can fight their way back to one another.

Here's the second trailer and summary:

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Theron stars as evil Queen Ravenna, who betrays her good sister Freya (Blunt) with an unforgivable act, freezing Freya’s heart to love and unleashing in her an icy power she never knew she possessed. Retreating to a kingdom far to the north, Freya raises an army of Huntsmen as her protectors, with the only rule that no two of them should ever fall in love.

As a war for domination escalates between the two queens, the hero standing between them is Freya’s most elite Huntsman, Eric (Hemsworth). Alongside fellow warrior Sara (Chastain)—the only woman who has ever captured his heart—Eric must help Freya vanquish her sister…or Ravenna’s wickedness will rule for eternity.

One of these things is not like the other.

Something isn't adding up here. The second trailer is saying this is a complete prequel. However, the first trailer and summary suggests that part of this is AFTER Snow White and the Huntsman. Ravenna died and is resurrected? However, now they are saying the Huntsman and Sara have to unite with Freya to stop Ravenna...?

I'm just trying to understand what's going on here. Did the movie get changed in post-production? Did audiences root for Freya too much since she's like Elsa in Frozen? I just get the feeling that the producers aren't sure what story they are telling here. I want to get on board, but I'm just not understanding the mixed message that the marketing team is sending.

 

[Fallen Angel]

They figured with Theron, Blunt and Chastain who the heck is looking up synopsis or better yet a plot for the movie?

 

[kvz5]

It's hilarious how different the premise of the movie is between the two trailers. Like they couldn't decide what to do...

I'm guessing that most of the plot is just misleading stuff and the scenes they're showing to support it are just unrelated scenes spliced together.

The plot is probably something like Blunt and Theron are working together at first and in the 3rd act, Blunt finds out that sister dearest was the one who killed her child and then she'll align with Thor.

 

[Drz]

Imo this movie should have been titled the Huntress and focus on Chastain as the new protagonist of this "franchise".

 

[MOVIELORD101]

I'm so confused right now. They keep changing the story of this movie. Summary for the first trailer:



Here's the second trailer and summary:

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One of these things is not like the other.

Something isn't adding up here. The second trailer is saying this is a complete prequel. However, the first trailer and summary suggests that part of this is AFTER Snow White and the Huntsman. Ravenna died and is resurrected? However, now they are saying the Huntsman and Sara have to unite with Freya to stop Ravenna...?

I'm just trying to understand what's going on here. Did the movie get changed in post-production? Did audiences root for Freya too much since she's like Elsa in Frozen? I just get the feeling that the producers aren't sure what story they are telling here. I want to get on board, but I'm just not understanding the mixed message that the marketing team is sending.

I think it's both a prequel at the beginning then the rest of the movie is set after SWATH. Kinda like how the 300 follow-up was. It's just that new trailer was clearly edited in a choppy manner. Thus, it's probably more of the fault of the marketing team than the movie itself.

 

[#root]

Is it just me or was the narration awkward as ****? The leading ladies are literally the only reason to see this.

 

[Drizzle]

The Huntsman 2: We Totally Weren't Influenced By Frozen

 

[TheVileOne]

I think it's both a prequel at the beginning then the rest of the movie is set after SWATH. Kinda like how the 300 follow-up was. It's just that new trailer was clearly edited in a choppy manner. Thus, it's probably more of the fault of the marketing team than the movie itself.

The second one is also edited choppy. In the first one we see Ravenna and Freya teaming up toward the end.

Now it looks like they are bitter enemies because Ravenna killed her baby. And Freya is a "good guy."

None of this makes any sense.