The "I hated Spider-Man 3" Thread!

[LiveWire777]

Damn you Raimi DDDAAAAMMMNNN you, I owe mr, Richard Roper an apology.

 

[sylabdul]

yep, fans like you will kill it, guess you guys just take this movies too serious, its all fiction , stop crying about it like a baby who needs to be fed

when fiction is hideous, then what??? this is just bad film-making buddy! i think u just want it to be sooo good that a thread called "I Hate Spiderman 3" bothers u.....shouldve thought of that before coming in this thread....

 

[BrklynsVeryOwn]

It was a great movie for the way it was directed. The Movie was a translation of what none of you would complain about if you had it infront of you right now. A COMIC BOOK. That movie was designed to play out almost exactly like a sTeve Ditko and Stan Lee era 1960's 1970's Spider-Man mag.

Thats what made me love it.

but the end was a disappointment. that I will indeed say.

but guess what.


This is only issue number 3.....


get me?

 

[sylabdul]

i wanna make TOTALLY clear, i dont like people telling me what to like either! i liked X3 and FF while others slammed it, but believe me, u need to MAKE urself like spiderman 3, cause it just misses on everything.....whiff!!!

^^^^

 

[sylabdul]

It was a great movie for the way it was directed. The Movie was a translation of what none of you would complain about if you had it infront of you right now. A COMIC BOOK. That movie was designed to play out almost exactly like a sTeve Ditko and Stan Lee era 1960's 1970's Spider-Man mag.

Thats what made me love it.

but the end was a disappointment. that I will indeed say.

but guess what.


This is only issue number 3.....


get me?

when i LOVED issues 1 AND 2 then i expect 3 to deliver, u know?? but i'm just lowering the expectations cause its that bad....

 

[BrklynsVeryOwn]

Gosh, I could go on and on about the many purposely missed opportunities with Venom. Raimi got the character so WRONG it wasn't even funny. I thought Topher was a HORRIFIC Venom, he couldn't get the perverse, dark and evil characterization down pat. Even as Eddie Brock I thought he came up short.

AND THAT VOICE!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!! I WAS SERIOUSLY PISSED!!!

There should have been WE's after he became Venom but again I know it was a Raimi giving us a big "F--- YOU!" to us Venom fans.

.

Venom was never Evil nor was he perverse. Learn about the character you speak of before you complain about the characterization.

"and that voice omg!!!!!1111122121!!!1"

Your credibility has vanished.

 

[onDgrind]

when fiction is hideous, then what??? this is just bad film-making buddy! i think u just want it to be sooo good that a thread called "I Hate Spiderman 3" bothers u.....shouldve thought of that before coming in this thread....

you totally wrong, am sitting here laughing at peoples comments, doesnt change a damn thing in my life if sm3 sucked or rocked, am not getting no money from the box office returns, it just amuses me when people are so passionate about something like this, ve been reading comics for years even though ve stopped now, but when it all comes down to it i still understand its just a comic book movie, x3 and ff was panned by most people ,i enjoyed every minute of it simply because it felt like i was reading the comics

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Sylabdul, don't mind that guy. This always happens. "If you don't like something then there's something wrong with you" type people. People don't like things for a lot of reasons. Entertaining means a lot of different things. Batman should never be fully lighthearted. I'm seeing the movie today, but it seems that Raimi really didn't understand meaning of Venom. He said he wasn't a fan of the character and maybe he never fully understood the idea of how the suit was suppose to affect Peter.

 

[conan69]

"Thanks a lot Raimi, damn"

Shouldnt you be thanking Avi Arad who made Raimi include Venom in a screenplay he had in mind that didnt include Venom?

Weve had 7 years of *****ing baout how badly you guys wanted Venom. The studio puts pressure on him and he includes him and now everyone is *****ing. Venoms a stupid character and is out of place in a story that was supposed to focus on Peter, MJ, Harry and Sandman.

Marvel has problems - the suits have contiued to interferre in the projects and weve had to many bad adaptions as of late after they started so strongly in the late 90s and early 00s.

Bottom line, Raimi made the company a billion dollars. They should have trusted him to make the film he wanted to and not interferred.

 

[IINuff SaidII]

Again, I mean... seriously? Are you kidding me?

1. Why the flip did the Symbi-"OAT" stick to the costume, but not to Peter? HE TOOK IT OFF AND PUT IN IN A TRUNK! Are we supposed to believe the alien was sleeping until he put that particular costume back on? It should have melded with him in the same vein as Eddie = coming out of his pores, eyes, finger nails and what not. Weak.

2. Why not have a 30 second scene where Eddie acknowledges his newfound partner (a telepathic conversation out loud maybe similar to Doc Ock talking to his limbs) rather than having us accept that this pathetic failed reporter gets covered in ooze and unflinchingly becomes Spidey's most formidable Super Villain! Yeah right! In the comics we're left to assume that Eddie spent months with the Symbiote before encountering Spider-man as Venom. The symbiote talked to him revealing they shared a mutual hatred. This weak plot was poorly executed and quick.

3. Why were there posters showing Sandman carrying a stuffed toy as if the relationship with a child would be a relevant plot point? His character added little more than eye candy and if you really get down to it, that's why everyone walks away disappointed from this.

Spider-man 2 may be hands down the best superhero flick ever. A smart, well fleshed out drama with awesome special effects that made you believe Spider-man could be real for a little over 2 hours. His character (aside from lacking true witty banter) truly embodied what made the comics classic. But for reasons that can only be assumed as a desire to deceive in an effort to sell masses of movie tickets, what do we get? Lumped together pieces of action sequences in favor of any sort of decent plot development. Point Blank... EYE CANDY!!! WEAK!!!

 

[BrklynsVeryOwn]

when i LOVED issues 1 AND 2 then i expect 3 to deliver, u know?? but i'm just lowering the expectations cause its that bad....

Can't argue with that. But, what if it's not planned for Spider-Man to be a trilogy?

 

[CARNAGE-COMETH]

So Who Do You Guys Want To Direct Spider-guy 4?

 

[sylabdul]

Sylabdul, don't mind that guy. This always happens. "If you don't like something then there's something wrong with you" type people. People don't like things for a lot of reasons. Entertaining means a lot of different things. Batman should never be fully lighthearted. I'm seeing the movie today, but it seems that Raimi really didn't understand meaning of Venom. He said he wasn't a fan of the character and maybe he never fully understood the idea of how the suit was suppose to affect Peter.

yea....i saw the premiere and i thought i was hallucenating at times lol but like i said, see it cause its spiderman, but jus dont expect too much from the story

 

[BrklynsVeryOwn]

Again, I mean... seriously? Are you kidding me?

1. Why the flip did the Symbi-"OAT" stick to the costume, but not to Peter? HE TOOK IT OFF AND PUT IN IN A TRUNK! Are we supposed to believe the alien was sleeping until he put that particular costume back on? It should have melded with him in the same vein as Eddie = coming out of his pores, eyes, finger nails and what not. Weak.

2. Why not have a 30 second scene where Eddie acknowledges his newfound partner (a telepathic conversation out loud maybe similar to Doc Ock talking to his limbs) rather than having us accept that this pathetic failed reporter gets covered in ooze and unflinchingly becomes Spidey's most formidable Super Villain! Yeah right! In the comics we're left to assume that Eddie spent months with the Symbiote before encountering Spider-man as Venom. The symbiote talked to him revealing they shared a mutual hatred. This weak plot was poorly executed and quick.

3. Why were there posters showing Sandman carrying a stuffed toy as if the relationship with a child would be a relevant plot point? His character added little more than eye candy and if you really get down to it, that's why everyone walks away disappointed from this.

Spider-man 2 may be hands down the best superhero flick ever. A smart, well fleshed out drama with awesome special effects that made you believe Spider-man could be real for a little over 2 hours. His character (aside from lacking true witty banter) truly embodied what made the comics classic. But for reasons that can only be assumed as a desire to deceive in an effort to sell masses of movie tickets, what do we get? Lumped together pieces of action sequences in favor of any sort of decent plot development. Point Blank... EYE CANDY!!! WEAK!!!

1) uhhh because thats how it happened in the comics. Read up on the source material.

2)Agreed. Though they hinted at his acceptance with implications. His smirk before being totally enveloped was obvious.

3) You're complaining because of his poster??? Seriously?



Eye candy....true enough. Sadly.

 

[Weapon M]

I'm dissapointed too in some ways. I think that there should have been better editing. I read the Novel, and I liked the Novel better then the movie. There were scenes in the novel that they didnt show in the movie. There were expressions that I never saw on the actors to show what they were thinking or to really 'get' the scene or the dynamic.
I think if ever there was a comic movie that has a directors cut or extended cut this is it. There was a scene in the novel where Peter goes to Dr. Connors lab and he notices Lizards in a tank, and pictures of different lizards on his wall and so forth. That would have been cool to see, and would have been an amazingly cool fore-shadowing of what would be coming in part 4! Too good not to have filmed that. I think they did.
There was a maddenning pace to this movie. No fluidity. The pace was terrible, like the editing made it seem like 'ok, not we're going to film in Aunt Mays house, ok now we're on the street and he's riding a bike. ok now he's in Dr. Curt Connors lab, ok now we see Sandman, ok now we see Harry, ok now we're in the Daily Bugle. No segways. Did not build up to certain parts, we just end up there. You almost ask yourself "How did we get here so fast?" I'm dissapointed, but I dont hate the movie by a long shot.
They totally F#@$%^ up on Venom though. I've been looking forward to seeing Venom in the Spiderman movie since the first Spiderman film. I went nuts looking all over the internet to see if I get any new information on Venom, I was amongst those people that would have just been happy with there being a Venom in 20 minutes of the film. Now I feel a little jilted. Venom was not scary AT ALL. Didn't need the crowd watching the final battle. The final battle at the construction site would have had a more darker tone if they were alone, just the 5 of them! If the music was softer it would have made Venom much more eerie and spooky. I thought more than anyone Raimi would have done the best job of making a scary character like Venom. When I heard Raimi interviews, and read the novel, I totally saw and was enthused with what they were trying to capture and what they were trying to accomplish with this character, but in the movie I don't think they were successful in capturing that feeling at all. The misplaced music took us out of the moments that could have possibly sent chills into us (ex. the chapel scene, or when Venom introduces himself to Spidey). Even the shower scene,, When Peter was taking a shower, EASILLY could have had the shadow of Venom walking around his house and Peter not know. That would have showed the audience that Spiderman's Spider-sense doesn't go off with Venom, and would have added to the mystery and aura of Venom.

Did I mention the music in the backdrop didn't help the cause either. lol

I dont hate the dancing or singing scenes as much as most of you guys do. I don't hate Emo-Peter as many call him, cause that WASNT Peter. I think they didn't stay too long on the singing, it didnt seem displaced to me. They never showed the scene where Peter fights with all those guys in a bar though, another cool moment that they missed. There was suppose to be a big fight scene in the bar. Where was it???? Where was the Scene where Brock goes to Stacy's house to make up, and explain his fake pictures of Spidey and she breaks up with him and Capt. Stacy totally kicks him out, and Stacy sees a broken man at that point wandering aimlessly away, and you could see compassion from the Capt. That would have been marvelous character development moment there. They missed it by not showing it. Like I said one scene leads to the next, and you dont know how you got there, or why. I mean that coupled with his firing would have totally sent him over the edge. We just see him lose his job and he jumps to the chapel like a broken man. Weak. Weaker still is the Sandman meeting Venom thing too.

The film makers explain too much when they shouldnt and they dont explain enough when they should.

I like it still. But it was dangerously close to me not liking it though. I'm just disappointed. Very poor execution in many respects.

 

[sylabdul]

Again, I mean... seriously? Are you kidding me?

1. Why the flip did the Symbi-"OAT" stick to the costume, but not to Peter? HE TOOK IT OFF AND PUT IN IN A TRUNK! Are we supposed to believe the alien was sleeping until he put that particular costume back on? It should have melded with him in the same vein as Eddie = coming out of his pores, eyes, finger nails and what not. Weak.

2. Why not have a 30 second scene where Eddie acknowledges his newfound partner (a telepathic conversation out loud maybe similar to Doc Ock talking to his limbs) rather than having us accept that this pathetic failed reporter gets covered in ooze and unflinchingly becomes Spidey's most formidable Super Villain! Yeah right! In the comics we're left to assume that Eddie spent months with the Symbiote before encountering Spider-man as Venom. The symbiote talked to him revealing they shared a mutual hatred. This weak plot was poorly executed and quick.

3. Why were there posters showing Sandman carrying a stuffed toy as if the relationship with a child would be a relevant plot point? His character added little more than eye candy and if you really get down to it, that's why everyone walks away disappointed from this.

Spider-man 2 may be hands down the best superhero flick ever. A smart, well fleshed out drama with awesome special effects that made you believe Spider-man could be real for a little over 2 hours. His character (aside from lacking true witty banter) truly embodied what made the comics classic. But for reasons that can only be assumed as a desire to deceive in an effort to sell masses of movie tickets, what do we get? Lumped together pieces of action sequences in favor of any sort of decent plot development. Point Blank... EYE CANDY!!! WEAK!!!

1. AGREED!!! people forget that the SYMBIOTE stuck on, it wasnt a seperate suit he put up, it formed clothes and EVERYTHING, but AFTER the symbiote is when Peter had a separate black suit as like a spare....

2. yea Venom needed his OWN MOVIE....plain and simple, but this film kind of NEEDED eddie brock the way it was being told so it wouldve been a PERFECT setup...shame

3. Sandman backstory was IRRELEVANT!!! they tried to make it more cause they changd him to the killer of Uncle Ben, but this was unneccessary of course....just bad story telling all around

i too cant believe this is the same man that gave us the classic SpiderMan 2 and promising part 1.....

 

[DACMAN]

It was a terrible film. It seemed as if the CGI kept it interesting. There were so many awkward moments that were unneccessary. Symbiote Spiderman should have been more harsh, not emo. But all of you know that. When it showed Emo Peter in a blur before the fistfight with Harry in the mansion, everybody, including me, in the theatre just bust out laughing because of how ridiculous he obviously looked. He even swayed his hair back with his head. WOW. -_____-

The trailers made this look so good with so much potential. Too bad, it was the total opposite. Oh, and I hate how Peter could TAKE OFF the symbiote suit, and it would just stay there/not move. That's retarted. How can a latex suit make someone more quick/powerful/do stupid dances? They should have exemplified the symbiote's power more. (ie. morph into streetclothes, form onto Peter's body, retract, etc.) WAY too many clips/trailers were shown. Even though that is wholeheartedly my fault for viewing them. I pretty much knew all of the dialogue in the entire film.

He could take it off in the comics, until it started to bond with him. Soo... you can't beat up on them for sticking to the comics.

 

[IINuff SaidII]

1) uhhh because thats how it happened in the comics. Read up on the source material.

3) You're complaining because of his poster??? Seriously?



Eye candy....true enough. Sadly.

NO are YOU serious? If you had read the source material, you'd know that the symbiote didn't attatch to his suit. It WAS his suit! It replaced his costume and more than that became a part of his being... it stayed inside him. It never ceases to amaze me, the arrogant lip that comes from a tool who thinks he knows something. And yes my complaint IS that "I" found the poster to be misleading along with the presentation of the trailers as well.

Shhh! No, No! Just don't speak and we won't have to feel ashamed for you.

 

[LiveWire777]

1) uhhh because thats how it happened in the comics. Read up on the source material.

2)Agreed. Though they hinted at his acceptance with implications. His smirk before being totally enveloped was obvious.

3) You're complaining because of his poster??? Seriously?



Eye candy....true enough. Sadly.

1) Thats not how it happened in the comics, Peter was able to morph the symbiote into the costume whenever he wanted he didnt jus put it on and take it off.

 

[Venom 1988]

Wow some of you people dont know jack ****, the symbiote being a "costume" that he could take on and off happened in the comics. Anyone have that scan of when Peter enters his apartment and we see the symbiote "costume" on his chair, then suddenly it goes to his body?

 

[LiveWire777]

NO are YOU serious? If you had read the source material, you'd know that the symbiote didn't attatch to his suit. It WAS his suit! It replaced his costume and more than that became a part of his being... it stayed inside him. It never ceases to amaze me, the arrogant lip that comes from a tool who thinks he knows something. And yes my complaint IS that "I" found the poster to be misleading along with the presentation of the trailers as well.

Shhh! No, No! Just don't speak and we won't have to feel ashamed for you.

thank you for saying EXACTLY what i was thinkingt:

 

[sylabdul]

THE ONE THING I JUST CANT FORGIVE is how he made the symbiote story in to a BIG JOKE.....the symbiote didnt make Peter cooler or more of a ladies man(even the ladies wasnt impressed though lol), but ok give him the benefit of the doubt right? creative license? ok.....then he handled it HORRIBLY, in this movie, all the symbiote does is make Tobey into a worst actor and puts bad makeup on his face, yes makeup, noticable eyeliner, fugly hair style......just not cool......and Peter fights in this movie more than Spiderman it seems.....gee....this is like SuperMan III, all we needed was Chris Tucker to be this movies Richard Pryor.....i'm serious

 

[BrklynsVeryOwn]

Again, I mean... seriously? Are you kidding me?

1. Why the flip did the Symbi-"OAT" stick to the costume, but not to Peter? HE TOOK IT OFF AND PUT IN IN A TRUNK! Are we supposed to believe the alien was sleeping until he put that particular costume back on? It should have melded with him in the same vein as Eddie = coming out of his pores, eyes, finger nails and what not. Weak.

2. Why not have a 30 second scene where Eddie acknowledges his newfound partner (a telepathic conversation out loud maybe similar to Doc Ock talking to his limbs) rather than having us accept that this pathetic failed reporter gets covered in ooze and unflinchingly becomes Spidey's most formidable Super Villain! Yeah right! In the comics we're left to assume that Eddie spent months with the Symbiote before encountering Spider-man as Venom. The symbiote talked to him revealing they shared a mutual hatred. This weak plot was poorly executed and quick.

3. Why were there posters showing Sandman carrying a stuffed toy as if the relationship with a child would be a relevant plot point? His character added little more than eye candy and if you really get down to it, that's why everyone walks away disappointed from this.

Spider-man 2 may be hands down the best superhero flick ever. A smart, well fleshed out drama with awesome special effects that made you believe Spider-man could be real for a little over 2 hours. His character (aside from lacking true witty banter) truly embodied what made the comics classic. But for reasons that can only be assumed as a desire to deceive in an effort to sell masses of movie tickets, what do we get? Lumped together pieces of action sequences in favor of any sort of decent plot development. Point Blank... EYE CANDY!!! WEAK!!!

1) uhhh because thats how it happened in the comics. Read up on the source material.

2)Agreed. Though they hinted at his acceptance with implications. His smirk before being totally enveloped was obvious.

3) You're complaining because of his poster??? Seriously?



Eye candy....true enough. Sadly.

 

[IINuff SaidII]

Wow some of you people dont know jack ****, the symbiote being a "costume" that he could take on and off happened in the comics. Anyone have that scan of when Peter enters his apartment and we see the symbiote "costume" on his chair, then suddenly it goes to his body?

Your argument's still not valid. The symbiote didn't envelop his costume. It covered him.

 

[LiveWire777]

Wow some of you people dont know jack ****, the symbiote being a "costume" that he could take on and off happened in the comics. Anyone have that scan of when Peter enters his apartment and we see the symbiote "costume" on his chair, then suddenly it goes to his body?

In the comics he was never able to take the symbiote off until the ff helped him out so he would jus morph the symbiote into different suitsand attire. correct me if im wrong