The (Insert Synonym for "Official" Here) Thor Thread

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I'd probably still give it to Nova. Nova's speed and maneuverability would probably more than make up for the difference in their strength levels. Plus, Heimdall tends to get his ass kicked by everyone.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Yes. On several occasions. Thor may arguably have won one or two fights with the Hulk, but I'm pretty sure the Hulk has at least a couple of uncontested victories over Thor. The majority of their fights are draws, though.


I don't know, maybe. I know Heimdall ruled Asgard for a while, but I don't know if he had the Odinpower for it. He probably did. I vaguely remember something about that, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

You know I'm joking. :meow:

 

[The Question]

Okay. I've done some reaserch into the matter, and I've revised my idea:


Balder, due to the many protection spells placed upon him, survives Ragnarok and eventually makes his way to Midgard. Being all that remains of Asgard, he is understandably quite depressed. The thought of trying to resurect the people of Asgard crosses his mind, but even if he had the power to recreate their bodies, he would have no way of finding their spirits since both Valhalla and Hel were obliterated along with the nine worlds (besides Midgard, of course). He then sets off to find Beta Ray Bill and salvage what little remains of his people.

However, unknown to Balder, the remnants of the eight destroyed worlds began to spill over into Midgard, causing some aspects of it to take on new life on Earth. This process is hastened by the Dark Elves, who escaped to Midgard and survived Ragnarok. The Dark Elves have begun finding the remnants of the eight worlds and recreating them, bending them to their will. They have already succeeded in using Odin's all seeing eye to power a sort of techno/mystical super computer that gives them unlimited information access, and have bred a new streign of Idunn's golden apples that temporarily grant the eater vast regenerative abilities instead of restoring his or her youth. They have also sought out and recreated specific beings from the eight worlds, including members of the Aesir, the Vanir, the Jotun, the Fire Giants, and the Light Elves. The Dark Elves, like most other races of the eight worlds, possess a specialty unique to them. They control nightmares. This has made them masters of torture, and has allowed them to bend the revived beings of the eight worlds to their will. They plan to use their forces to conquer Midgard, turning it into their new base of operations, and then turn their atention towards the other pantheons.

When they become aware of the fact that Balder still lives, they atempt to kill him. This leads him to learn of their actions, and begin a quest to revive the people of Asgard before the Dark Elves can corrupt them. He manages to revive Volstagg and Sif, whereas Hogun, Fandral, and Heimdall have been brainwahsed by the Dark Elves. Eventually, Balder is able to revive Thor, who uses the Odin Force to set right the damage that the Dark Elves have caused and heal the fractired minds of the various creatures who they have perverted.

 

[The Question]

Also, something funny I kind of noticed about the Thor comics. They kind of changed up who was who's arch enemy. In the comics, Thor and Loki tend to concentrait on each other, but in the myths, while Loki did often vex Thor, his real arch enemy was Heimdall, and Thor's arch enemy was Loki's son, Jormungandr.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's kind of impractical for Thor to fight the Midgard Serpent every five minutes.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Arch-enemy? I wouldn't so much as say that. Sure, the serpent pissed Thor off on more than one occassion, but then again, EVERYBODY pissed Thor off on more than one occassion. The serpent is just the one who kills him.

 

[The Question]

It's kind of impractical for Thor to fight the Midgard Serpent every five minutes.

True. Just something interesting I noticed.

 

[thor87]

SO does a neone know if the real thor will make an appearance in civil war.

 

[bkhedr]

I don't know, maybe. I know Heimdall ruled Asgard for a while, but I don't know if he had the Odinpower for it. He probably did. I vaguely remember something about that, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

I looked it up

He wielded a fraction of the Odinpower

 

[bkhedr]

Yeah, I'd probably still give it to Nova. Nova's speed and maneuverability would probably more than make up for the difference in their strength levels. Plus, Heimdall tends to get his ass kicked by everyone.

Heimdall never gets enough respect

he's a badass

 

[Red]

I figured if I asked this here as I might get a better response.

How did Thor use the power gem from the Infinity Gauntlet?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He beat the crap out of Drax and Beta Ray Bill (and the Silver Surfer, but the Surfer was trying to reason with him, so that doesn't really count).

 

[Red]

How did Thor acquire the power gem and when did this happen?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It happened in the "Blood and Thunder" crossover event, comprising about three or four issues (I can't recall exactly) issues of Thor, The Infinity Watch, The Warlock Chronicles, and Silver Surfer. Check this page out for more information on the crossover as a whole.

Drax kept the Power Gem "hidden" as a member of the Infinity Watch by swallowing it. Thor punched Drax in the gut and Drax spat the gem out. Thor picked it up and used it to beat the living hell out of Drax, Bill, and the Silver Surfer before Thanos finally trapped Thor in suspended animation.

Awesome avatar, by the way.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

He beat the crap out of Drax and Beta Ray Bill (and the Silver Surfer, but the Surfer was trying to reason with him, so that doesn't really count).

I kinda like how in every Thor/Surfer fight, the Surfer seems to be incapacitated from going all out somehow.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The first time they fought, he wasn't. In fact, he was augmented a bit by Loki's magic. But that was way back when the Surfer wasn't as powerful as he would become at his peak and Thor hadn't started his downward spiral from the top tier of Marvel's elite ranks.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Surfer had actually made a comment in that fight how he felt slow, and not all there, like he couldn't control himself.

 

[Red]

It happened in the "Blood and Thunder" crossover event, comprising about three or four issues (I can't recall exactly) issues of Thor, The Infinity Watch, The Warlock Chronicles, and Silver Surfer. Check this page out for more information on the crossover as a whole.

Drax kept the Power Gem "hidden" as a member of the Infinity Watch by swallowing it. Thor punched Drax in the gut and Drax spat the gem out. Thor picked it up and used it to beat the living hell out of Drax, Bill, and the Silver Surfer before Thanos finally trapped Thor in suspended animation.

Awesome avatar, by the way.

Thanks for the help Corp

So basicly anyone whom has the Power Gem is unbeatable?

Edit: Also Corp, have you see the pics for JMS's Thor relaunch?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Not anyone. It depends on a lot of factors. The Champion, who lives to fight and is totally ruthless, was unstoppable with it. Drax, on the other hand, wasn't much more powerful with the gem than without because he was too stupid to use it well. Thor used the gem in the throes of madness, so he cut loose with it a lot more than he normally would, I imagine.

 

[Red]

Let's say for arguments sake Iron Man managed to power a suit with the Gem, much like the Thor-buster. Given his intellect would be it reasonable to assume that he would be almost unstoppable?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Let's say for argument Iron Man managed to power a suit with the Gem, much like the Thor-buster. Given his intellect would be it reasonable to assume that he would be almost unstoppable?

He'd basically BE unstoppable.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I'm sure Iron Man could make spectacular use of the gem. He's definitely smart enough for it, and we know from Civil War and the deal with the Hulk in Illuminati that he's got a mean streak several continents wide.