The Iran Thread

[Matt]

Revolution? No. Ahmadinejad will lose but Mousavi will have no real power. He, like Ahmadinejad will simply be a puppet to the Ayatollah and the clerics. If people continue to step out of line, they will be put down. The people of Iran are not capable of real revolution and Obama does not have the balls to send the CIA in to arm and train resistance movements and risk getting caught up in his own Bay of Pigs so most likely nothing will change.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Ahmadinejad won Matt. People have filled the streets in all major cities in Iran. The Ayatollah and Ahmadinejad have openly attacked the clerics. All the mullahs and political leaders are at each others' throats. Mousavi has warned the Government that the pillars of the Islamic Republic have been shaken, and the Iranian people will not stop until they fall. The people don't even care about Mousavi really. Now they're changing DEATH TO THE DICTATOR. As much as the Government wants to resist, they can't. Their fall is inevitable.

 

[Matt]

Ha, shows how much attention I've been paying to the news lately. Again, it doesn't matter. The Iranian people are not capable of revolution. If they attempt it, they will be put down with relative ease. Unless the US is willing to intervene (and we aren't) there will not be revolution. The only chance of revolution is if Israel invades, which is probably 50/50 at this point.

 

[El_Citrus]

I hope the Iranian people knew they weren't going to get a fair election, but I do hope that they can rally themselves to form a resistance to overthrow the current government. If 70% is between 18 and 30, and most of those take up this resistance, then it's very possible that change could be forced upon Iran. Hopefully it happens since I think Ahmadinejad is way too dangerous to be left in power.

 

[Matt]

Ahmadinejad is a puppet. He has no power.

 

[Nivek]

Wow, that turned into a giant clustertruck, didn't it? This is what happens when you have a religious monarchy that tells it's people it's a democracy.

Personally, I expect a military presence clearing away all these demonstrators in a bloody sweep. I see no overthrow.

 

[Matt]

I agree. The military will get involved and this will end. The only chance of revolution is if Israel invades.

 

[Heretic]

The only hope for the Iranian people is if Isreal attacks Iran.

We live in a strange world.

 

[Matt]

Of course, the Iranian rebels wouldn't necessarily work with the Israeli army. We could just see a three way bloody massacre.

 

[Nivek]

You never know, though. Maybe Iranians are fed up with their leaders making the entire country look like it's composed of crazy people.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Ha, shows how much attention I've been paying to the news lately. Again, it doesn't matter. The Iranian people are not capable of revolution. If they attempt it, they will be put down with relative ease. Unless the US is willing to intervene (and we aren't) there will not be revolution. The only chance of revolution is if Israel invades, which is probably 50/50 at this point.

Matt, you have no idea what you are talking about here. The people of Iran are also very patriotic. If Israel invades, the entire country will fight back to protect it. Right now there is an inside threat and only they can get rid of it. Outsider invasion would be the stupidest "solution" and will only make matters worse.

I hope the Iranian people knew they weren't going to get a fair election, but I do hope that they can rally themselves to form a resistance to overthrow the current government. If 70% is between 18 and 30, and most of those take up this resistance, then it's very possible that change could be forced upon Iran. Hopefully it happens since I think Ahmadinejad is way too dangerous to be left in power.

Oh they knew, they are only using this as an excuse to fight back and from what I've seen today they are full well of regaining the country. And Ahmadinejad is only dangerous because he is afraid. Everyone hates him and he has valuable information. He has stuff on everyone. The only other option was if Khameneyi sentenced him to death which would have willingly but Mousavi in charge and he would've just paid him off. It's actually a good thing that the election was cheated because now the people are using this as an excuse to get to the streets.

Wow, that turned into a giant clustertruck, didn't it? This is what happens when you have a religious monarchy that tells it's people it's a democracy.

Personally, I expect a military presence clearing away all these demonstrators in a bloody sweep. I see no overthrow.

It isn't a religious monarchy. It's an Extremist Dictatorship.
1. Not a monarchy
2. Many of their own laws are against Islam


It seems many people pretend they know what they are talking about when it comes to Iran but most people don't. One of the only people I can think of on here is Ahura Mazda, and I think he was in Iran during the revolution. I could be wrong though.

 

[Matt]

And you're the authority on Iran, A-Man?

 

[Asteroid-Man]

I agree. The military will get involved and this will end. The only chance of revolution is if Israel invades.

The only hope for the Iranian people is if Isreal attacks Iran.

We live in a strange world.

Again if Israel even tries to invade, Iran will launch a strike before Israel makes it in. The Iranian military has developed and if a war erupts, the political propaganda will only incite Iranians to fight back. Iranians are VERY patriotic and proud to be Iranian. If they fight FOR the Government it'll only undo what they have done in the past two-three years. The Iranian people have to be left to do this on their own.

 

[Nivek]

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[Asteroid-Man]

And you're the authority on Iran, A-Man?

No, I'm someone who knows what's going on. I've felt the outcome of the Revolution, my family and friends have both supported the last revolution, been killed and imprisoned during and even after. I study the history of my country all the time. I've been raised to know of everything that transpired before, during and after the revolution. I know how it happened and what the students are doing now is mirroring the last revolution. If they are left to do this on their own with an outside leader like Pahlavi this will all work out. Everytime there has been and outside country trying to "fix" things, it's only gotten worse.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

I just received a video from Iran and there are crowds of people fighting the Military. (The military has replaced the Pastar) They would take a youth, start beating him and then the rest of the crowd would fight back against the armoured soldiers. Woman are chanting with their veils around their necks! People are chanting "Death to the Dictator" and "Death to the Islamic Republic". The streets are FILLED with Revolutionaries and Armoured Soldiers.

 

[Marx]

Is there any official word on the Iranian election results?

 

[Superman]

Is there any official word on the Iranian election results?

It's my understanding that the "Official" word is that "I'm a nut job" or whatever his name is won but I kinda doubt that's the truth.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

YES. They have officially said Ahmadinejad won. Which is why a group of revolutionaries has emerged in the streets.

 

[Marx]

It's my understanding that the "Official" word is that "I'm a nut job" or whatever his name is won but I kinda doubt that's the truth.

YES. They have officially said Ahmadinejad won. Which is why a group of revolutionaries has emerged in the streets.

I seriously question those results then. Ahmedinejad could very well have fixed them.

 

[Arc-Light]

I seriously question those results then. Ahmedinejad could very well have fixed them.

Of course he fixed it.......the man is a power hungry head case.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

HE didn't fix it. Khameneyi did. Ahmadinejad is easier to control on a leash.

 

[Marx]

WHITE HOUSE MONITORING 'REPORTS OF IRREGULARITES' IN IRAN
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...eports-of-irregularities-in-iranian-election/

The White House is watching closely the results of the Iranian election, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Saturday.

“Like the rest of the world, we were impressed by the vigorous debate and enthusiasm that this election generated, particularly among young Iranians. We continue to monitor the entire situation closely, including reports of irregularities,” Gibbs said in a statement.

The Iranian government announced Saturday that incumbent president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had won the nation’s closely watched election with 62.63 percent of the vote. The results were met with skepticism from supporters of the main challenger, former Prime Minster Mir Hossein Moussavi.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I would have believed in a simple victory in Ahmadinejad, but there is no way in hell that he got a landslide victory. I mean, if you're going to rig an election, at least do it in a believable manner. There are too many factors against Ahmadinejad that would have given him such a victory in such a large margin. I mean hell, Obama got only 53% of the vote and look at all the factors against the Republicans and the crowds the man drew.

 

[Marx]

I would have believed in a simple victory in Ahmadinejad, but there is no way in hell that he got a landslide victory. I mean, if you're going to rig an election, at least do it in a believable manner. There are too many factors against Ahmadinejad that would have given him such a victory in such a large margin. I mean hell, Obama got only 53% of the vote and look at all the factors against the Republicans and the crowds the man drew.

That's what I'm having a problem with. This election was clearly rigged. Now the question becomes, what can be done about it?