Joker "The Joker" in development with Todd Phillips and Martin Scorsese attached? - Part 2

Joker poster in Hong Kong.

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Wow, Is it really getting released there ?

I think it actually is, lol, already out 3rd of Oct

One of the reviews about HKers reactions etc

https://www.douban.com/group/topic/154119680/

Deleted of course, lol

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Joker Movie Opens to $5.4 Million Box Office Internationally

Joker will be screened in a total of 73 markets by the end of the weekend following Thursday rollouts in Hong Kong, Italy and Russia on.
 
I would think that with everything going on in China, this movie has no prayer of being released there.
 
Mainland China can never have a film with overt political events that may be construed against the CPC's philosophy. Winnie the ****ing Pooh is banned there because some internet people made a meme about him and Xi's physical resemblance.
 

This video made me realize so much things about the film and how complex it really is. I seriously recommend it if you want to understand a lot of things you didn't get the first time.
 

This video made me realize so much things about the film and how complex it really is. I seriously recommend it if you want to understand a lot of things you didn't get the first time.


Or not, and let each viewing remain a mystery. I believe you can still spoil a film, even after you have seen it. Watching all this and reading everyone's theories ... it just sucks the longevity out of it, IMO.
 
Or not, and let each viewing remain a mystery. I believe you can still spoil a film, even after you have seen it. Watching all this and reading everyone's theories ... it just sucks the longevity out of it, IMO.
Oh i agree. Which is why i just recommend it.
 
I was trying to find info on it but I couldn't find anything at all. So does that mean it's going to be released in limited China locations?

HK is considered part of the "international market" and has the rollout releases along with other countries, and the censorship and government system is supposed to be separate to mainland China. If it does get released in mainland China there will be news about a separate date.

But China bans films like Minions/Despicable Me/Suicide Squad for anti-social reasons (though SS might be partly due to Katana's glaring mask as well), so a film about a mental illness guy inciting a riot is probably not gonna get released there lol, but I'd rather have WB standing up like they did with Nolan's TDK, and ignore the RMB, and not appear as a hypocrite criticizing everything western and pretend to be a real SJW while when your own income is involved you turn straight into wh**e mode like a certain NBA MVP.

Plus Joker is on his way to make 1 Billion worldwide on a 60M budget, so it doesn't need China, it's the Chinese people's loss not to be able to enjoy this on the big screen and watch it on crappy tiny Huawei phone screens, and it's the CCP's fault, not WB nor free world's issue.
 
Lots of sold-out screenings at my local theater tonight (special Tuesday fee).
 
I don't understand how anyone could take a blanket message about mental illness from this film, or believe that the film attempts to deliver one aside from perhaps that society is failing the mentally ill.

The film never, at any point, even remotely implies that Arthur is the "norm", or that everyone's experience of mental illness is like this, or any of that.

At all.

There are a couple of common "truths" mentioned about having mental illness, in terms of it often being a stigma, the way others expect you to behave, etc, but beyond that?

There's not really a blanket underlying message about those with mental illness to be found in the film. Nevermind that mental illness itself is also used as a metaphor within the film. It's not intended to be just mental illness, the film intersects mental illness with other struggles and makes a statement about our society, and the types of "illnesses" that are plaguing it.
Exactly. People treat badly each others often in the movie.
They mock each other, they despise each other, they hurt each other, they hate each other, they kill each other.
 
These paranoid film critics, woke bloggers/media got to feel stupid for actually getting the general audience to actually go out and judge for themselves if the movie is "harmful". Seems like it backfired since the majority feel that the backlash is paranoia at best and it's just folks trying to push an agenda. A good word of mouth also helped as I've overheard a stranger talking about how good the Joker is to his friend.
 
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These paranoid film critics, woke bloggers/media got to feel stupid for actually getting the general audience to actually go out and judge for themselves if the movie is "harmful". Seems like it backfired since the majority feel that the backlash is paranoia at best and it's just folks trying to push an agenda. A good word of mouth also helped as I've overheard a stranger talking about how good the Joker is to his friend.
Honestly, none of those things really mean anything in the UK. People are just watching it because it's a great film, and hopefully that's true elsewhere as well.

What a load of nonsense, not directed at you BTW, but the general "press" it's been getting.
 
Honestly, none of those things really mean anything in the UK. People are just watching it because it's a great film, and hopefully that's true elsewhere as well.

What a load of nonsense, not directed at you BTW, but the general "press" it's been getting.
I totally agree since I also live in the UK and I too think the bad press this movie is getting is a load of nonsense.
 
Finally saw it last night. The movie is a triumph. Phoenix is absolutely phenomenal. Is he better than Ledger? It's hard to say really, because the performances are so different that it doesn't even feel right to compare them. Yet somehow, they both feel 100% like the Joker, just in different ways. I have a lot of thoughts on this film that I'll post later but for now, I just want to say that it's brilliant, and all the talk about the movie glorifying incels or whatever was completely misguided. The film is a dark, hard look at mental illness and the way society discards those who can't afford proper mental health care. At no point does it try to justify Arthur's actions, it simply shows that perhaps he might not have gone down a dark path if his environment wasn't so ****ty.
 

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