"The Joker" in development with Todd Phillips and Martin Scorsese attached?

[terry78]

ICP's newest member.

 

[MbJ]

And you know for a fact I'm one of those people?

I don't know you so I can't say. I can say from my experience though that people seem to get holier than thou about women finding Joker and Loki hot while at the same time talking about how sexy they find characters like Harley Quinn or Poison Ivy, and yet shockingly the latter is never criticized or used as an example of guys being sick or having mental issues.

Right, because there's nothing questionable about romanticizing unapologetic, murdererous lunatic,

A fictional one? No. Like I said dudes do it to evil women all the time. Why do you think the hero having a flirty relationship with a sexy villainess is such a common trope across the whole of fiction?

 

[Boy Scout]

I don't know you so I can't say. I can say from my experience though that people seem to get holier than thou about women finding Joker and Loki hot while at the same time talking about how sexy they find characters like Harley Quinn or Poison Ivy, and yet shockingly the latter is never criticized or used as an example of guys being sick or having mental issues.

Again, you're confusing being attracted to a fictional character and harboring romantic feelings for them. There is a difference.

"You know, The Joker is actually kind of cute."

Er...not in my opinion, but okay, you do you.

"The Joker is a misunderstood, tortured soul, and he's forever my #mcm."

Uh...excuse me, what?

A fictional one? No.

So you wouldn't think it was strange if someone developed a crush on Hannibal Lecter.

Like I said dudes do it to evil women all the time.

I have issues with objectification in general, but again, not what I'm talking about.

Why do you think the hero having a flirty relationship with a sexy villainess is such a common trope across the whole of fiction?

Okay, I'll bite: which of those women are heartless killers in any way comparable to The Joker? How many more of them instead operate in a moral gray area like Catwoman?

 

[LaughterLives]

I think your problem is that You think other people think like you. Or you think they should anyway.

I mean even Hannibal Lecter Is a damn good catch. He's brilliant, confident, He can Cook, He's witty, he dresses well and enjoys the finer things in life.
How can you not see women being drawn to that?

Its almost like You've never been around them. Or not the ones on this planet anyway. Women have dark sides too and who are you to judge them for it?...It's natural.

 

[LaughterLives]

I watched the movie. Caleb was pretty great in it. He's got a lot of promise for the future too, as he matures. He seems to be choosing some interesting stuff.

Ya, I like the kid. He's a little different and has a kind of charisma that you don't see in others.
I totally see him playing a good Joker.

 

[MbJ]

Again, you're confusing being attracted to a fictional character and harboring romantic feelings for them. There is a difference.

Why would I care about which fictional character someone I don't know is attracted to?

So you wouldn't think it was strange if someone developed a crush on Hannibal Lecter.

See the above response.

 

[Skrilla31]

I would say that if anyone walks away from a movie feeling that the Joker is sexually attractive then the writers have failed to create an accurate version of the Joker.

There are a lot of different traits you can apply to the Joker but 'sexy' has never been one of them. Harley is literally the only person in the world who is romantically drawn to him, which says more about her than anything.

 

[MbJ]

I would say that if anyone walks away from a movie feeling that the Joker is sexually attractive then the writers have failed to create an accurate version of the Joker.

So by that logic the Joker the writers of The Dark Knight failed? Gotcha.

 

[Skrilla31]

So by that logic the Joker the writers of The Dark Knight failed? Gotcha.

What did it for you? The clown suit?

 

[MbJ]

What did it for you? The clown suit?

The Heath Ledger, mostly.
But more to the point seriously. That movie got Joker a mob of fangirls. That's not new information. So I guess Nolan should be informed he failed making that film.

 

[Flint Marko]

What did it for you? The clown suit?

The Heath Ledger, mostly.

 

[LaughterLives]

I would say that if anyone walks away from a movie feeling that the Joker is sexually attractive then the writers have failed to create an accurate version of the Joker.

There are a lot of different traits you can apply to the Joker but 'sexy' has never been one of them. Harley is literally the only person in the world who is romantically drawn to him, which says more about her than anything.

Whats sexually appealing to people varies by the individual. There are many qualities to The Joker that make it easy to understand why a person would be sexually attracted to him whether he "looked" sexy or not and whether you agree or not. Its totally understandable unless you're a hermit.
Its The same thing with chicks who are drawn to people with power.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

What did it for you? The clown suit?

for me it was the dirty yellow teeth

very sexy

 

[I Am The Knight]

What did it for you? The clown suit?

I think Letoker was designed to have a bit more sex appeal (the whole vampire thing he has going on) than Ledger's Joker, who really looks like he stepped out of a grave and put on a fancy suit.

 

[BruceWayne2]

Silly argument, but I would imagine the chicks are attracted to the actor playing the role, and not actually finding a psycho killer sexy. Many chicks find fame sexy and also the bad boy rockstar image that both Ledger and Leto's Joker put off. Just like I find Harley Quinn incredibly sexy, but I would absolutely hate her if she were a real person. It's because I'm attracted to Margot Robbie and I realize it's a fictional story and these people aren't actually dying


But yeah, there are also weirdasses in the world who are genuinely attracted to psychos. But I don't think that's the case with most Joker fan girls

 

[I Am The Knight]

But Harley has a very sexualized look in SS. She looks dirty sure, but you can still see a young and attractive woman underneath the Oscar winning makeup! I really don't see anything that a girl would find attractive in Ledger's Joker, then again I'm not a girl...

 

[MbJ]

This entire tangent seems like the result of people not understanding what women are attracted to, so it's fine.

 

[Eddie Dean]

On this site? Never.

 

[LaughterLives]

But Harley has a very sexualized look in SS. She looks dirty sure, but you can still see a young and attractive woman underneath the Oscar winning makeup! I really don't see anything that a girl would find attractive in Ledger's Joker, then again I'm not a girl...

That's cuz girls aren't as shallow as most boys. Plus most of the shallow ones come from places like California, Vegas or New York. Not all but most haha! There's probably a lot in France too but I haven't been there yet so stay tuned.

 

[I Am The Knight]

 

[BattleAngel]

Amen... hahaha

 

[LaughterLives]

Thanx for the compliments.

 

[Wheels]

I understand the attraction to MCU Loki because he has redeeming qualifies. He has a heart; he obviously loves his family. The Joker is typically pure evil in the sense he shows no capacity for empathy or sympathy in most interpretations. I could see being in love with the failed comedian Joker from The Killing Joke but most versions of The Joker display no ability to care for someone whatsoever.

 

[OutOfBoose]

People romanticize all kinds of **** all the time. Hell, even "Mad Love" graphic novel, while an exaggerated fantasy, is about that as well.

Heath's Joker, Gogo Yubari (and it's prototype Momomi Momoi, I believe), Gannibal Lecter, Dracula and other - all of them can be really attractive one way or another.

 

[BestGirl]

I understand the attraction to MCU Loki because he has redeeming qualifies. He has a heart; he obviously loves his family. The Joker is typically pure evil in the sense he shows no capacity for empathy or sympathy in most interpretations. I could see being in love with the failed comedian Joker from The Killing Joke but most versions of The Joker display no ability to care for someone whatsoever.

Good thing the Joker isn't a real person so his complete lack of empathy isn't a problem.