The Justice League General & Speculation Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - Part 17

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[TheRedWraith]

He'd still have to be very, very careful with how powerful Kryptonians can be, what genetic template he used and who he let raise said children; obviously 1 or 2 for Clark and Lois but for the rest it would be vital to pick the right people. The Amazons, or Diana could be a cool place to send a couple (after they make it through the adaption process to the air of course, although many probably wouldn't).

 

[Tra-El]

I get that you're pretty much trolling, but this is fiction, and in fiction, sometimes the hero can't quite get the upper hand over the villain until the climactic moment.

Perfect way to describe it. Kal held out hope to believe in himself to change Zod's minsdet (impossible) until the very last minute where realization set in. That realization was when Zod uttered the words "NEVER" while simultaneously looking into the eyes of an innocent family ready to be burned to death. Clark's decision wasn't about that PARTICULAR family, per-say, but that family was used as a metaphor for the innocent lives lost and a representation of the lives that would have CONTINUED to be lost if there wasn't going to be a climactic decision that needed to be made.

 

[Tra-El]

He'd still have to be very, very careful with how powerful Kryptonians can be..

That's why Jor-EL wanted Kal-EL to be the bridge. To help unify and build a better tomorrow of two worlds. "..they will stumble, they will fall. But in time, they will join you in the sun. In time you will help them...accomplish wonders."

 

[Greenlite]

Thanks Tra-El.

So right before Krypton blew up the AI asked Kal-El's mom if she wants to find shelter like others, so I suppose somewhere out there Kryptonians are living and breeding naturally?

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Was playing around with Faceapp and wondered what real old man Batfleck would look like

Pretty hnngghhh if you ask me

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Batman beyond age affleck

 

[vantheman77]

If it's true that the WB considers the Justice League film unwatchable on their first screening, that's not a good sign.

It's rumored that they felt the film's tone was too dark. Could they try to make the JL's tone like Wonder Woman's?

 

[Greenlite]

If it's true that the WB considers the Justice League film unwatchable on their first screening, that's not a good sign.

It's rumored that they felt the film's tone was too dark. Could they try to make the JL's tone like Wonder Woman's?

New trench warfare for the new thread again? Anyway

BOF Jett called the film's first cut unwatchable, then they hired Joss Whedon to fix it, then BOF Rick's source (who wasn't happy before) told him the new cut including storyboard is great, and now Jett is rooting for it and thinks there's a chance the film will be good.

Cool?

 

[Superherofan123]

That unwatchable thing is nonsense. It was screened months ago I'm sure. Several reports that it was good a few months ago as well. WW was a mess supposedly and see how true that was.

 

[Superherofan123]

New trench warfare for the new thread again? Anyway

BOF Jett called the film's first cut unwatchable, then they hired Joss Whedon to fix it, then BOF Rick's source (who wasn't happy before) told him the new cut including storyboard is great, and now Jett is rooting for it and thinks there's a chance the film will be good.

Cool?

Lol so 15 minutes of film makes it watchable when it was unwatchable before???? Ooooookaaayy

 

[Greenlite]

He says (paraphrase) "DS will not feature in the film, or the sequel, because of change of direction, take it to the bank."

Remember this and use it as a gauge for credibility in November.

 

[Greenlite]

Lol so 15 minutes of film makes it watchable when it was unwatchable before???? Ooooookaaayy

Lol 20 minutes actually but ya, I wonder how many minutes of changes Rogue One had.

 

[Superherofan123]

So they introduce apokolips but no Darkseid? Whatevs

 

[misslane38]

He says (paraphrase) "DS will not feature in the film, or the sequel, because of change of direction, take it to the bank."

Remember this and use it as a gauge for credibility in November.

But if Darkseid isn't in the movie, how could we know if that was always the plan or a change? Just his absence would prove nothing in terms of speculation about changes. So if he does appear, it proves this rumor is BS. If he doesn't, it proves nothing.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

Thanks Tra-El.

So right before Krypton blew up the AI asked Kal-El's mom if she wants to find shelter like others, so I suppose somewhere out there Kryptonians are living and breeding naturally?

I took that to mean it would just be a hi tech bomb shelter like what is on Earth, and it would have no affect if the planet blows up. Which is why Lara declined the idea.

 

[Gu3ree]

Here's another source claiming the Justice League movie is a mess: http://www.tvovermind.com/movies/warner-bros-allegedly-called-early-cut-justice-league-unwatchable

Lets remember that fake sources did claim Wonder Woman was bad. But changing the film's ending may or may not indicate what this source is describing.

I didn't think BvS was all that messy, but it was tonally dark. MOS squeezed in so much in 2 hours and ten minutes that it felt messy.

Suicide Squad though...eh...do these sources not bother to check for updates regularly? Suicide Squad went over reshoots, but the speculation was that they were doing reshoots to lighten up the film, but that rumor was quickly denied by David Ayer. Yet, sources keep saying the Suicide Squad reshoots happened because of the negative reception Batman v Superman received. The film clearly had a light tone and humor in it.

Still, as a result, Suicide Squad was indeed a total mess. The film took too long to introduce all the characters, but there was also no balance. I thought there was too much background music, scene after scene in setting everything up. Everything else though--it wasn't until like an hour and a half into the movie when I felt the film had a quiet moment, and what I thought was the best scene in the movie--the bar conversation scene. Even though the film is a shared universe, but meant to be a standalone, the comic-booky titles and subtitles I thought didn't fit in this film, and felt inconsistent with the realistic tone Zack Snyder was trying to do. Enchantress, I might add, was cheesy. What's more...their villain was unexpectedly a CGI villain, goofy and over-the-top, a villain that didn't seem right for the Squad. It should have been the Joker.

Having said that, I fear Justice League could use possibly too much humor...we won't see enough of the main villain, Superman's last minute entrance in the film might make the film feel squeezed in. If his return has very little background information as to how he comes back and why, then the film could feel very rushed and lack significance.

The one thing Justice League seems to be about and what seems to be the studio's goal as well, is to develop these characters and make them into a family...but once Superman arrives very late into the movie, who has never met Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg...then the film might end leaving us feeling empty-handed due to Superman's lack of presence and interaction with the characters.

In BvS, we get what many people considered to be an epic final battle of a film, but in what many people considered the final third of the film to be better than its first 2/3's which were mediocre.

Watchmen had a similar tone to BvS in my opinion, but if anything, in the final battle, Snyder delivers in both films, even though most of Watchmen didn't feel epic, the final battle was to say the least, albeit a few scenes here and there, but very few.

The recent Comic Con trailer for Justice League looks good, if not epic, but I hope it does look as good as the trailer does. BvS seems to skip any major sequence scenes in the film excluding the final showdown except the Batmobile chase scene. Superman saves the day off camera or through a single montage.

I hope Justice League doesn't save it all until the final battle. There should be major sequences throughout, particularly in the middle. Something in the likes of the helicopter sequence from Superman: The Movie, Batman rescuing Vicky Vale at the museum in Batman (1989), of Spider-Man saving Mary Jane from Green Goblin in their very first confrontation.

Some might argue that these are one of the main highlights of these movies.

 

[Paradox1]

Rarely do you have sources let alone people describe something the same way. So either it's the same source or it's a plant, a story somebody wants told.

 

[dhandler01]

Good lord how would random bloggers know the ending was changed? Is this the stupid "Justice League 2 was cancelled so the ending was changed" BS from yesterday because that has been debunked. That had zero to do with Whedon as Deborah Snyder confirmed it in April of last flipping year.

 

[idiot09]

Here's another source claiming the Justice League movie is a mess: http://www.tvovermind.com/movies/warner-bros-allegedly-called-early-cut-justice-league-unwatchable

They use BOF as a source themselves, and are sprouting complete rubbish. Dont give these clowns clicks.

 

[Greenlite]

But if Darkseid isn't in the movie, how could we know if that was always the plan or a change? Just his absence would prove nothing in terms of speculation about changes. So if he does appear, it proves this rumor is BS. If he doesn't, it proves nothing.

If he shows up, then I've screen captured the comment to kick his butt lol, if not, then it will take years to prove he's BS or not,

I took that to mean it would just be a hi tech bomb shelter like what is on Earth, and it would have no affect if the planet blows up. Which is why Lara declined the idea.

I see, a waste of time hiding I guess?

 

[Greenlite]

Seriously though, the ones using BOF as the source of treasure conviniently ignores the fact that Jett is more optimistic about the project and now believes there is a chance JL will be good, and is rooting for it, so JL was a mess therefore it'll suck have no correlations using the same report/source

 

[KalvinEllis]

I'm beyond sick of this. Stop giving these ****ers clicks guys.

 

[idiot09]

Seriously though, the ones using BOF as the source of treasure conviniently ignores that fact that Jett is more optimistic about the project and now believes there is a chance JL will be good, and is rooting for it, so JL was a mess therefore it'll suck have no correlations using the same report.

No what he is doing is he giving himself a way out, because he is ********ting.

If the movie is good, he has a way out now, and if its bad, he will say he said that too.

Jett is a known BS'er, its already been proven. Guy never breaks any story,but always comes up with "Hey I knew that and here's why JL is doomed".